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Creature — Zombie Beast
Whenever another creature is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you may put a +1/+1 counter on Deathbringer Thoctar.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Deathbringer Thoctar: Deathbringer Thoctar deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
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Deathbringer Thoctar Discussion
6 days ago
There is a surprising amount of counter generation here, I like it.
6 days ago
Makes sense. Also, My best friend has taken to playing Orzhov tokens. How would you recommend going against this without board wipes? I get that Goblin Sharpshooter and Deathbringer Thoctar can mass kill tokens, but what if I don't find either of them, or he buffs his tokens to more than 1 toughness? Additionally, this deck seems to be weak against fliers, so I'm slightly concerned about what will happen when he fills his board with flying spirit tokens. If you have any experience with this, I would love it if you would share. :)
1 week ago
Nesting Dragon produces tokens to fling when worldgorger starts cycling your boardstate. Torrens don't work with Judith, unfortunately, but all the other pieces will be triggered. They also each can due twice since they leave behind dragons for additional sac'ing
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed allows your creatures to be sac'd twice since they recur the first time.
Deathbringer Thoctar also helps convert deaths into damage, but he can also go infinite with mikaeus since he can shoot his +1 counter before dying each time, allowing him to undie forever!
Goblin Bombardment is a really really good enchantment, especially for what you're doing. Gotta add that in!
Viscera Seer is also one of the best sac engines out there along with the g e Altars and Bombardment.
2 weeks ago
One of my favorite cards in my Shattergang Brothers deck (or pretty much any deck really) is Feldon of the Third Path. It's a great way to recur value creatures, and even turns them into artifacts to give you more options sacrificing them to your commander.
I'm not sold on Undying Rage being the third-best recurring enchantment in this deck. Normally I wouldn't be a huge fan of Rancor either, but you have such a high density of heavy hitters that I think it's worth it. In place of Unstoppable Rage, I think either Fallen Ideal or Glistening Oil would be better. Glistening Oil would help your beaters kill at a much smaller size, while Fallen Ideal would be nice as a free sacrifice outlet to make sure creatures you want to recur make it to the graveyard.
One card that would fit really well in your build would be Pitiless Plunderer. It generates mana so you can activate Shattergang Brothers multiple times in a turn, and generates artifact tokens to serve as fodder for his ability.
Finally, another of my favorite cards for Shattergang is Deathbringer Thoctar. It lets you ping off 1-toughness creatures for free to make Shattergang's sacrifice triggers more impactful, and grows out of control really quickly as creatures die.
1 month ago
ZendikariWol thanks for the suggestions, the more feedback the better.
There is a decent amount of removal in my meta and one particular person likes to play mil, however I don't plan on needing to recur things for the most part and only use it as a panic button which is why all of my recursion is either continuously effective, pulls the entire graveyard, or targets several cards at once.
Rage Forger was specifically included to get around the "attack one player" restriction since it targets any player, allowing me to spread the damage around.
Solidarity of Heroes Doubles as a combat trick, but even if I only use it on a single creature, lets say one that has 4 counters on it, then I get 4 counters for 2 mana which I find decent enough.
I understand the Lifeblood Hydra has a bad mana curve and have avoided running it up until now, but with so many ways to produce and move counters it will continue to grow even after being played.
Vraska is mainly run for her ultimate, I know that is generally frowned upon but she doesn't require you sac something, it is a may ability. If she happens to be put down with a doubling season it will only take her 2 turns to ulti, and if not then it gives the less aggressive decks a reason to attack me and as a result, I am able to attack them. I considered using Vraska, Scheming Gorgon instead but she had a higher CMC and the ulti only lasted for a turn.
Balefire I considered mostly as a repeatable removal, a 7/7 with flying and menace is hard to block, especially multiple times in a row.
The rest I'll take a look at removing.
1 month ago
Bloodchief Ascension can do the same thing as Duskmantle Guildmage. By adding Ascension, you'd have another card to work with Mindcrank. We also figured Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat and Deathbringer Thoctar could be some nice combo pieces in a deck that tries to capitalize on the death of creatures.
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1 month ago
Yeah, exactly. I'd have to play around with Nicol Bolas, but I have a feeling I wouldn't like it in my deck personally.
True, true, but I mean, if that happens you could always just clone an opoonents creature to get value. So at least it's not a complete waste of a turn..but good point on Sakashima.
Holy shit...yeah...you can steal walkers...That completely slipped my mind that zealous says "permanent" xD
Ahhh I gocha. Chasm Skulker is great with Skullclamp. I just went more towards a combo build so it was cut, but I think I'm gonna take out some of those strict combos soon.
Scourge has kind of been hit or miss for me. If I get the second attack phase, it depends how my board survived after the first combat phase, who I'm attacking, if I even want/need to attack them, etc, etc.
What're your thoughts on Deathbringer Thoctar and Noosegraf Mob? I've seen them played on MTGGoldfish and they did help win that game for the player. Deathbringer can ping someone to death essentially and good on it's own, and Noosegraf can fill the board..and always has the counter for Marchesa to recur if she's out.
Na man, you got it all lol thank you. I am curious though...why don't you buy online? I buy most, if not all, of my cards from cardkingdom.. or my lgs.
1 month ago
Your deck is gonna be stagnant if Marchesa isn't protected so I'd suggest Lightning Greaves to protect her. I'd also suggest Grim Haruspex, Disciple of Bolas and Sage of Fables for some reliable card draw. Your deck also seems to want to be aggressive so cards like Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch and Anger to have more cards that grant haste to capitalize on an open opponent. Also dealing with combat you can have some extra evasion with stuff like Profaner of the Dead and Pyreheart Wolf. If you want to delve more into the realm of taking other people's creatures then Molten Primordial would be great. Last but not least Marchesa, the Black Rose and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed puts anything that dies into a recursion loop, so another way to abuse that is having a creature infinitely die while Deathbringer Thoctar or Stalking Vengeance is out to throw infinite damage at everyone for a W!!! That's all I got, Happy Brewing!!!