but you have Mindcrank and Duskmantle Guildmage thats an infinite combo,...

good deck though. +1

Eater of the Dead + Your General = You win.

While Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank is an infinite, I need to activate the combo to start it off and the cards are really good on their own for this deck. I'll just avoid the combo if I can, or use it as a last ditch rage win. Thanks for the input :). Eater of the Dead now needs to be in, and my friends shall hate you.

Mesmeric Orb and Raven Guild Master are both pretty sweet. Also, Horseshoe Crab , Knacksaw Clique , and Morphling could be good with your commander.

Blakkhand I think I love you. Awesome suggestions that all went into the deck. Thank you sir or madam.

Look at Your deck is going down! Literally! by Chocolate for some suggestions, it is also phenax mill

Thanks for the heads up. I added Patron of the Nezumi , Riddlekeeper , and Sadistic Sacrament from their deck.

I'd almost suggest AEtherling over Morphling .

Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur could be very interesting in this deck

Archive Trap

HI! I'm Zacoly, and I made a similar deck pretty recently, Phenax is an amazing commander!!!

I can see that you wanted to control your costs when you built this deck so I'll do my best not to suggest overly expensive cards... like $10 or more

FIRST

You need to consider adding more non-basic lands:

Shelldock Isle - Jwar Isle Refuge - Minamo, School at Water's Edge - Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx

You can see how these lands fit your colors and/or help you out a great deal

There are some powerful enchants that you should look at:

Intruder Alarm = Could become a very strong combo with Undead Alchemist , but generally it creates free mill everytime your opponents play a creature

Pemmin's Aura = attach this to your biggest creature and pour all your blue mana into crazy amounts of mill. Also very effective with creatures that grow in response to mill like Consuming Aberration or Nighthowler . This card will nearly always treat you better than an adorable little Horseshoe Crab .

Artifacts:

Thousand-Year Elixir = AMAZING considering your commander gives all of your creatures an activatable ability. Any further questions?

Bonehoard is worth considering when you have multiple creatures that can untap for 1 blue mana isn't it? That could turn your 1 blue mana investment into a creature that grows as you mill!!!

Creatures:

Surgespanner works great when you don't have to attack to tap it. A reusable, cheap unsummon? YES PLEASE!

Empress Galina is capable of stealing many kinds of things including commanders, lands, and Gods that haven't become creatures. That's pretty good isn't it?

Sorceries:

Lim-Dul's Vault = An amazing card that lets you set up your next 5 cards and know exactly what to expect in the near future. OR lets you dig for a wincon/response to somebody else's wincon

Cyclonic Rift = The most powerful control spell blue has to offer. PLEASE don't leave this one at home when you're making a blue EDH deck. This card's power can't be overstated!!!

.... That's about all the ideas I care to list for your potential addition to this deck for more ideas take a look at Serpent's Guile and Serpent's Fangs! and don't forget to +1 or drop me a nice comment.

Cards I disagree with:

Font of Mythos + Howling Mine = These help your opponents BEFORE they help you. They don't actually mill your opponents they help them gain boardstate, and get answers to yours Giving your opponents draw power at nearly no cost to them is a bad idea in even a semi-serious deck.

Grindstone - This card's clunky mechanic might prove to be pretty useful Vs a single color deck. But considering that few EDH deck are single color AND 1/3 of most decks are lands and that lands don't have a color I'd expect this card to fail to mill more than once pretty dang often. I don't like it. It's not a powerhouse EDH option without Painter's Servant or something similar

Mind Funeral + Glimpse the Unthinkable + Psychic Drain are all single shot, single target mill spells. They will rarely ever hit for enough to make a noticeable dent in a 100 card deck. While amazing in their standard formats these cards shouldn't be part of the EDH family. You need something you can combo with or something that has the power to grow as the game goes on. Jace's Erasure is also a very weak option until you play something like Forced Fruition . It may add up overtime but it's not a powerful effect at all. It would be if it said "ALL Opponents", then I might use it.

However I can still see using Psychic Drain if you feel like you NEED the ability to gain life.

Dear Zacoly,

How many ways can I thank you? I'm not sure. But seriously, thank you very, very much. I appreciate the time you took to help me and I will use your suggestions whilst changing/rebuilding this deck. I like your suggested cards and I understand why you suggested to remove the cards you did. Those cards were mostly there because they came to mind first while I was building. Thanks again my friend.

I wanted to point out a couple more things.

First, when you use Pemmin's Aura you could use your black mana to pump up your creature's toughness "for the rest of the turn" before you make them mill once for each available blue mana.

Wash Out is basically Cyclonic Rift 's little sister. It's much cheaper and it could cause you a bit of harm if played at an inopportune moment, but it can shut down players with big boardstates. It's worth having as a big control spell that hits multiple targets.

Someone suggested Archive Trap , I wouldn't use it. It's the best "one shot wonder" spell since it's free, but unless you are drawing a significant number of cards EACH TURN this one is going to be a bad choice because you spent a card in hand to help yourself a little tiny bit, and NOT hurt your opponents in any way. Now that I'm thinking of it you NEED to have a way to stop others from making use of their graveyards as many EDH decks do! Some possibilities include Havengul Lich (revive the dead thing in response to them trying to) - Withered Wretch (A very cheap re-usable effect to deny attempts) - Tormod's Crypt (basically sit there saying NO) .... I like the first option best because I can gain from it, it can be offensive and not only defensive, but it's up to you! I would suggest some kind of defense to graveyard effects since you will be making them more powerful.

This deck is awesome! if you want some other ideas check out my deck Great Wall of Mill

Hey, I saw one of the previous posters mention that Howling Mine and Font of Mythos are meh cause they help everyone before yourself. If you are still looking to get that effect but want to be the first one to benefit, check out the new card coming in Journey called "dictate of kruphix"

Hi,

I've played mill over the last years over and over again and build some phenax decks by my self lately.

In my local group there are may options to fear with this theme, reanimate, recollect, eternal whitness etc. so i came up to play at least 5 to 7 cards of graveyard hate. Ravenous Trap is one of the funniest ways in my point of view. Bojuka Bog is also quite helpfull and don't take any usuall cardslot. Hedron Crab is not that good in such a deck because it dies too easy and the trigger is not that powerfull because it still targets just one guy. I would run someone like Geth, Lord of the Vault . He is big, mills and is able to use the milled stuff. Most funnierst thing to find is something like Sakura-Tribe Elder or guilded lotus.

Yeah, I am also a Phenax player and I have my own deck, Not your run of the mill commander deck. Your is probably better, but I would definitely recommend Meishin, the Mind Cage and Jace's Archivist at least, they're both very good, and provide good devotion. I'd probably take out mesmeric orb and patron of nezumi, but I prefer to kill people by mill rather than damage.

Puppet Conjurer + Intruder Alarm + Grinding Station = 1 hit mill kill

Er, except you need blue mana for the dudes.

oops. plenty of creatures produce mana. it's janky and has a million moving parts but it seems fun