Vesuva

Land

You may have Vesuva enter the battlefield as a copy of any land on the battlefield.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

Hybrow on Heart of Black Coal - Ayara ETB trigger EDH

3 weeks ago

Hey Profet93, thanks so much for the view and suggestions

Jet Medallion I originally had in deck, but found that the ramp didn’t help in my {B} {B} {B} commander, and quite a few of the spells I play over and over don’t have any colorless costs, so I swapped it out for Bontu's Monument, which had the bonus of doubling my commanders ability.

Bubbling Muck – I don’t love the one-time use of it. Would take the space of something that I can use again and again in this deck.

Cabal Stronghold – I think this is a carryover from before I had a coffers. I could easily swap it out for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. I actually have one sitting in a binder not getting used.

Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx – Of all the lands, this is the one I like the most. I checked and there isn’t one in my binder, but I do have sitting in a for-fun The Colossal Dreadmaw deck. Would probably swap out Castle Locthwain. The draw is nice but find I don’t generally need it.

Deserted Temple is ok, but I don’t have mana doublers and other than coffers (and I guess now Nythos there isn’t really anything I need to untap.

Thespian's Stage and Vesuva – I am not a huge fan of the copy lands, V in particular enters tapped, which I hate. And they are both dependent on me having something that is worth copying, which isn’t always the case.

Contamination – If I had a different playgroup, this would be an automatic add, but my friend group doesn’t love playing mass land hate. A Strip Mine is fine, but something that shuts down another player completely, we generally don’t play just to keep everyone having fun. Infernal Darkness is kinda the same thing, so going to pass.

Imp's Mischief I just checked, and I do not own one, but am going to have to add it to my next buy list. Mono-coloured decks have some real blind spots and having a quazi-counter available would be great.

Skullclamp is going to go on a sidelist for this deck for a while. My mono-red Purphy relies on it for draw, but so far with Ayara hasn’t really needed the extra draw very much.

Carnival of Souls – I did have this one in an early build of this deck, but with my wincon being Plague of Vermin this wouldn’t work, and I feel like in a 4-player game I am going to lose more life than I can afford.

Thanks again for the suggestions. I have already added the two lands.

Profet93 on Heart of Black Coal - Ayara ETB trigger EDH

3 weeks ago

Hybrow +1, great description.

Jet Medallion - Ramp

Bubbling Muck - Ramp. Given you're not running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, this ramp will most liklely be onesided

Im unsure if you have enough basics to warrant cabal stronghold. Best case scenario: Turn 5 you have 4 basic swamps and stronghold to break even. While it's nice to have in the later game, I wonder how impactful it really is at that point. Would you not be better served by another utility land such as Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Thespian's Stage, Deserted Temple or even a Vesuva? Nykthos seems like an easy ramp choice, stage/vesuva can copy coffer or other utility land, temple can untap coffers or be a political tool. I feel that rather than spreading your "land ramp" between coffers and stronghold, you should just go all in on coffers. It's easier to chase one rabbit than two if you get what I'm saying. How has stronghold been playing for you? I've found it more impactful in primarily budget decks with an overwhelming amount of basic lands.

Contamination - Mild stax (they can use dorks or rocks to bypass it) that shuts off their land mana production, including both sides mass mana producing lands (cradle, nykthos, lake of the dead, serra sanctum, etc...). With all your token generation, it seems like a shoe in. Not to mention it's synergy with reassembling skeleton and other cards that u can recur from ur grave easily. Should contamination be too much/rude, Infernal Darkness is a similar effect that doesn't shut off mass mana producing lands and can be easily kept for 1-2 turns while you get your set up. Both can be probably used to make the blue player float all their mana in an attempt to cast a counterspell during the current phase - aka, counterbait.

Regarding Problem 1/protecting your commander, I would go with the versatile tool, Imp's Mischief - It redirects targeted removal, draw, extra turns and can "counter" counterspells. Most spot removal in EDH is cheap so you probably wont lose much life and with all your lifegain, this potential concern appears heavily mitigated.

You have a lot of token generation, so perhaps Skullclamp might be worth considering. It is nice to use on ur commander as well given it's the lynchpin of your deck.

Not a serious suggestion, but I wonder how Carnival of Souls would work with this deck, do note it activates on any creature, not just yours.

SufferFromEDHD on Zeriam, the Griffin King

3 months ago

Deserted Temple, Thespian's Stage and/or Vesuva for maxing out that Griffin Canyon!

SufferFromEDHD on darien and his white weenies

5 months ago

Deserted Temple to untap all your pain lands

Vesuva double up on your pain lands

xraider on Land matter omnath better

6 months ago

The first thing I notice is that you have very few land searchers. In a landfall deck like this, I would remove Sol Ring and Arcane Signet in favor of land searchers. I’m missing cards like Crop Rotation, Sylvan Scrying, or Expedition Map to help you find key utility lands. Other searchers like Harrow and Springbloom Druid not only fetch lands but also fill your graveyard, which synergizes well with land-based abilities. And where is Rampant Growth?

Your land base looks solid, but I would also recommend incorporating more land-based strategies into your deck. Consider adding lands like Dark Depths, Vesuva, Thespian's Stage, Maze of Ith, Strip Mine, and Terrain Generator. You’re playing Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle, but do you have a reliable way to get at least five Mountains in play to maximize its damage potential?

Your collection of land-matters creatures is very impressive! A few Planeswalkers that could fit well are Nissa of Shadowed Boughs and Lord Windgrace.

I also notice a lack of removal, card draw, and tutors. Be sure to include options that align with your strategy, such as lands that can remove artifacts or enchantments (Boseiju, Who Endures) or lands that provide card draw (Geier Reach Sanitarium).

Best of luck and happy playtesting!

Kersa on Time to die, mutie.

7 months ago

you could probably put a Vesuva in, and replace tainted wood and temple of malady with Path of Ancestry and Reflecting Pool

vensers journal is really expensive for infinite handsize and your draw doesnt seem that great to benefit from the healing maybe use Reliquary Tower or Thought Vessel instead, or if you just want infinite hand size a Spellbook works too

SufferFromEDHD on Salt Devastation

9 months ago

Soul Partition can exile anything and plays into your Grand Arbiter Augustin IV angle taxing them as you take resources. Speaking of taxes and resource denial... Where's the Burning Sands?

Capsize > Cyclonic Rift

I know that might be a controversial take but Rift is one and done. Capsize is forever with your mana rocks :)

Cut some of your creatures. Palladium Myr? Vesuva cloning your Ancient Tomb is better.

Big fan of Dwarven Miner for the nostalgia (started during Mirage) but Dwarven Driller is cooler and you really need mana rocks.

Ornithopter of Paradise great common but you aren't running modifications and being a creature just makes it vulnerable to removal. A mana rock would be better.

Eye of Ramos, Heart of Ramos and Tooth of Ramos have been really useful in my build.

Profet93 on K'rrik "no (life)pay'n, no (life)gain" Demon Deck

1 year ago

madmax32

I would remove 3 lands or so. I hate missing land drops but having too many lands creates its own issues. If you're worried about being mana screwed, some more card draw can help offset that. Night's Whisper and Syphon Mind are solid options.

Urza's Incubator - Tribal demon ramp.

Cut vamp nighthawk - Its a nice body, but not incredibly impactful. Not a demon and doesn't synergize with the rest of the deck.

Deserted Temple/Vesuva/Thespian's Stage are all great lands to assist with coffers and ramp you to victory.

Imp's Mischief - Redirect targeted removal, draw and extra turns. Helpful to protect your commander and aetherflux