Stoic Rebuttal

Stoic Rebuttal

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Metalcraft — Stoic Rebuttal costs {{1}} less to cast if you control three or more artifacts.

Counter target spell.

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Stoic Rebuttal Discussion

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7 months ago

Hey, thanks for the additional info.

For causal upgrades my advice is add cards that give you repeatable value; either draw, artifact tokens or pump for tokens. Cards in the original precon to consider adding:

Other changes to consider:

Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer is a strong casual card with artifacts. It creates a Myr at your combat step then all token creatures you control can become any token creature you control. You can make all Thopters/Servos into Myrs for a huge Myr Battlesphere attack or make all Myrs/Servos into Thopters for a big flying army attack with Sharding Sphinx to double your army after combat damage.

Temple of the False God is not a good land for your deck because you can't tap it to make mana until your fifth turn at the earliest. It's not worth playing because of this and honestly it's not worth playing in any deck, but that's another discussion.

Sin Prodder can be repeatable draw, but more times than not an opponent will take the damage and have you put the card into your graveyard which is not helping you. Steel Overseer has great interaction with artifact tokens especially Thopters. It also has good interaction with Unwinding Clock letting you on everyone's turn put a counter on all your artifact tokens.

For control you've added three very good counterspells (Counterspell, Swan Song and Negate). Broken Concentration and Silumgar's Scorn don't compare to these other counterspells, that's why you should consider cutting them. Stoic Rebuttal because of the artifact theme activating metalcraft is good enough to add. Instead of more control, focus on your artifact game plan with Saheeli?

NoSoyYucateco on

7 months ago

Silumgar's Scorn and Broken Concentration are poor counterspells for this deck. You have two dragons, and very few instant speed effects that make you discard. I recommend swapping these for Arcane Denial, Stoic Rebuttal, Disdainful Stroke, Tale's End, Disallow, or Spell Swindle.

Barbarian_Sun_Pope on Excuse me, but I believe you took my artifacts...

8 months ago

Have you considered Stoic Rebuttal as an alternative to Cancel. It can become a Counterspell as the game goes on. Spell Swindle and Hornswoggle could also be good alternatives as they generate additional artifacts with the counter. Hope this helps.

Joe_Ken_ on Urza artifact commander deck

10 months ago

You’ll probably want to up the land count to 35-36 since that is a much better number of lands to ensure you hit your land drops.

Aetherflow also can’t be in the deck since for Commander you can only have cards that have the same color as your commander and it has a Blue/White mana symbol.

Some good budget cards you can pick up are Reality Shift , Frantic Search , Rewind , Etherium Sculptor , Curse of the Swine , Trophy Mage , Tribute Mage , Sharding Sphinx , Mirrodin Besieged , Thopter Spy Network , Foundry Inspector , Myr Battlesphere , Chief of the Foundry , Stoic Rebuttal , and Manifold Key

jaymc1130 on Emry Forgeworks [cEDH Primer]

11 months ago

Sultai_Sir

For the most part, the combos in Emry Forgeworks are it's engines that generate infinite mana/card draw. The basic functions and components are discussed because they are simple and will see use in a lot of games. I don't think it's all that worthwhile to get into some of the more niche combo set ups that will rarely happen for a couple of reasons: first, half the fun of playing Emry Forgeworks is solving the puzzle of how to assemble a game winning engine combo with the tools a pilot currently has access to, and second, the crazy narrow combos won't be relevant in 95% of games because they often require very specific circumstances to function. I suppose the looping kills could also be considered combos of a sort, and that's why they got descriptions too.

As for a budget build, I can't make specific recommendations without a list to parse over. However, I can make some general recommendations about cards that have some merit in competitive settings that don't break the bank. There are a lot of low cost artifacts out there with sacrifice abilities that can be useful and these types of cards are wonderful Emry synergy pieces. Your spellbombs, lanterns, eggs and other such pieces are capable replacements for some of the more expensive pieces, particularly the expensive card advantage pieces when replaced with cheap card draw on sacrifice artifacts. Some of the combo engines could be cut entirely for a budget build that doesn't expect to be playing against $10k dollar decks on a regular basis, such as the Mystic Top combo that requires Sensei's Divining Top. The deck will still function fine without it even if it will be slightly less consistent or have more difficulty in certain game scenarios. The expensive interaction pieces like Force of Will and Mana Drain can definitely be replaced with more budget friendly options like Stoic Rebuttal. The expensive mana rocks can easily be substituted for with options like Everflowing Chalice or Jeweled Amulet. None of the fetch lands are a requirement for a budget build, and the same goes for some of the luxury lands like Gemstone Caverns and Ancient Tomb. Replacing these cards with some good old Islands is perfectly fine. Just with these types of budget replacements you could easily bring the deck's cost down under $500.

jaymc1130 on Emry Forgeworks [cEDH Primer]

11 months ago

Sultai_Sir

For the most part, the combos in Emry Forgeworks are it's engines that generate infinite mana/card draw. The basic functions and components are discussed because they are simple and will see use in a lot of games. I don't think it's all that worthwhile to get into some of the more niche combo set ups that will rarely happen for a couple of reasons: first, half the fun of playing Emry Forgeworks is solving the puzzle of how to assemble a game winning engine combo with the tools a pilot currently has access to, and second, the crazy narrow combos won't be relevant in 95% of games because they often require very specific circumstances to function. I suppose the looping kills could also be considered combos of a sort, and that's why they got descriptions too.

As for a budget build, I can't make specific recommendations without a list to parse over. However, I can make some general recommendations about cards that have some merit in competitive settings that don't break the bank. There are a lot of low cost artifacts out there with sacrifice abilities that can be useful and these types of cards are wonderful Emry synergy pieces. Your spellbombs, lanterns, eggs and other such pieces are capable replacements for some of the more expensive pieces, particularly the expensive card advantage pieces when replaced with cheap card draw on sacrifice artifacts. Some of the combo engines could be cut entirely for a budget build that doesn't expect to be playing against $10k dollar decks on a regular basis, such as the Mystic Top combo that requires Sensei's Divining Top. The deck will still function fine without it even if it will be slightly less consistent or have more difficulty in certain game scenarios. The expensive interaction pieces like Force of Will and Mana Drain can definitely be replaced with more budget friendly options like Stoic Rebuttal. The expensive mana rocks can easily be substituted for with options like Everflowing Chalice or Jeweled Amulet. None of the fetch lands are a requirement for a budget build, and the same goes for some of the luxury lands like Gemstone Caverns and Ancient Tomb. Replacing these cards with some good old Islands is perfectly fine. Just with these types of budget replacements you could easily bring the deck's cost down under $500.

Gattison on Prague-Rock (Helix-Golem Combo)

1 year ago

Giorgiod: First of all, thanks for your interest, and please let me know how playing the deck works out for you. =D I'd love to get feedback on the deck in a different meta.

As for a sideboard. Tbh, eh not really, lol. I play mostly casual/kitchen table, plus I literally have over 50 pauper decks built so I don't get to play them all as much as they deserve.

That being said, were I to bring this deck to a LGS and play it, I would probably swap Stoic Rebuttal for straight-up Counterspell as Daarkest suggested above, and leave maybe one or more Stoic Rebuttals in the sideboard for counter-wars with other blue decks.

I only have the one copy of Welding Jar or else I'd have more in the deck also, so put some of those in the sideboard too.

Apostle's Blessing is one of the best defense spells in pauper imho, so if you face a lot of removal, there's that.

Echoing Truth is versatile enough to hit any permanent, so kind of a board wipe, but can also get rid of Treasure, Food, etc. depending on what you face.

Beyond that, I usually go very general with my sideboards, so creature removal (Searing Light, Smite, Celestial Flare), artifact removal (Fragmentize, Dispeller's Capsule) and enchantment removal (Demystify). And sometimes you can double up the effects on one card to "save space" in your sideboard, as you can see. =)

Finally, there's always the old trick where you Unsummon/Void Snare something, and then Counterspell it when they try to cast it again.

Hopefully that jumble of ideas provides some help to you! =D Have fun, and let me know how you like the deck and if it needs any major adjustments or whatnot! Thanks!

PeanutCoffee on

1 year ago

I would recomend losing the focus on tap lands and look more at mana rocks/dorks (maybe even some fetches) for color fixing. It will be hard to storm off with only getting one mana a turn. With the Clock of Omens every rock and dork counts as at least 1 and 1/2 mana. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice would work well for rocks. For dorks the tried-and-true Hedron Crawler , Silver Myr , Iron Myr , and Plague Myr

Also I would recomend Counterspell over Stoic Rebuttal

For creature you could look at Riddlesmith (to double on draw engine), Artificer's Assistant (to fix drawing and avoid mana flood), and maybe even Mirror Image to copy a creature for a little extra value. ( Mirror of the Forebears would be a better pick over Mirror Image if you have it)

For mana I would do basics over tap lands every day of the week. If you can get cards like Steam Vents that come in untapped more power to you. Mana Severance is a high risk high reward card that would synergize great with storm.

I love the build though, these are just suggestions and ideas. I have over half the decklist in my cart on TCG now! Keep up the good work!!

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