Stoic Rebuttal

Stoic Rebuttal

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Metalcraft — Stoic Rebuttal costs {{1}} less to cast if you control three or more artifacts.

Counter target spell.

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Stoic Rebuttal Discussion

thijmnesoy on Pauper artifacts

2 months ago

a nice trample enabler might be Temur Battle Rage it's single use, but it might fit in nicely with Immolating Souleater

also, I don't think it's worth playing Stoic Rebuttal over Counterspell, unless you're already playing a playset of Counterspell, maybe Mana Leak or Lose Focus is nicer since you're in 3 colours

TheoryCrafter on Mon AMyr (Advice / Thoughts?)

3 months ago

Have you considered Inspiring Statuary? This will be useful for your nonartifact spells-especially the ones with "X" on their mana costs. If you add it to your deck other cards to consider are Introduction to Annihilation and Scour from Existence to deal with the Karn, the Great Creator/Mycosynth Lattice combo.

I would also suggest the Artifact lands Darksteel Citadel, Power Depot, Seat of the Synod and Treasure Vault. Not only can you make multiple copies with Portal Prototype, but boost your affinity. And you can't go wrong with Inventors Fair in your deck. You have a mana source and a tutor for ready at a minute's notice to use if you turn out to need it.

Stoic Rebuttal's metalcrafter ability will effectively make it the same cost as Counterspell.

Thank you for reading me out. I hope it helps. Happy Hunting!

Davinoth on

7 months ago

     DawnsRayofLight: Thank you, great suggestions!

     I am running Counterspell, so I'm not quite sure what you mean about running Stoic Rebuttal over it. I've considered cutting SR a few times for Negate, but I always end up deciding against it, as it's nearly always another Counterspell. This slot is more likely to become Disallow and eventually Force of Will. =)

     Absolutely love AEtherize! Used it a lot in standard back in the RTR block; I should definitely find a home for it here! I think I'll definitely consider Aetherspouts as well. Propaganda is really good with the land control, but I always feel like without running a whole Pillow Fort package, it's an enchantment I can't tap for mana. Same kind of feelings for Dissipation Field, despite the strength of the card.

     Manascape Refractor is an awesome suggestion that I hadn't considered! Definitely going to look to make room for it. Field and Vale, though, I feel would just slow me down more than they would be beneficial in the face of some of my stax effects. I'd be more inclined to add Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx back into the deck, I think.

     This deck honestly doesn't need more win-more cards. I used to have it very full of big value creatures like Darksteel Colossus and Sphinx of the Second Sun that I could turn up with Urza's active, which was fine - but I'd frequently find myself stuck with too many in my early hand, and was way more susceptible to being mana-screwed. At this point I'm down to one big fatty in Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur. All that being said, I am planning to eventually cut God-Pharaoh's Statue for Blightsteel Colossus haha. =P

     Metalworker would be a great pickup too, but I'd definitely be more inclined to trade for than buy, and finding someone willing to trade one is easier said than done lol

     Thanks again! =)

DawnsRayofLight on

7 months ago

Hey! This is a really fun looking deck! I'd like to make a few suggestions if that is cool:

Stoic Rebuttal: there is no reason to run this over Counterspell or really any other counter spell

AEtherize. Aetherspouts, Propaganda, and Dissipation Field are great for protection.

Strixhaven Stadium: can act as an alternate win con

Lotus Field, Lotus Vale, and Manascape Refractor can help if you are unable to keep Winter Orb untapped for your turn so you can play what you need to.

Maybe add some big bois like Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger and Blightsteel Colossus as other win cons and utilize the large amounts of mana you generate.

Metalworker: I know he is pricey but it is hilarious to Turn 2 a Kozilek, Butcher of Truth

Valengeta on The Empire

9 months ago

Personally I think you have good options in both mono and multi colored so try both. Here's more useful Blues:

About Jace, I don't think he's helpful at all. I would much rather try Strixhaven Stadium here. Pandeem is good as a single. Another thing that might be good, especially if you follow the stadium idea, is Blinkmoth Nexus

multimedia on

1 year ago

Hey, thanks for the additional info.

For causal upgrades my advice is add cards that give you repeatable value; either draw, artifact tokens or pump for tokens. Cards in the original precon to consider adding:

Other changes to consider:

Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer is a strong casual card with artifacts. It creates a Myr at your combat step then all token creatures you control can become any token creature you control. You can make all Thopters/Servos into Myrs for a huge Myr Battlesphere attack or make all Myrs/Servos into Thopters for a big flying army attack with Sharding Sphinx to double your army after combat damage.

Temple of the False God is not a good land for your deck because you can't tap it to make mana until your fifth turn at the earliest. It's not worth playing because of this and honestly it's not worth playing in any deck, but that's another discussion.

Sin Prodder can be repeatable draw, but more times than not an opponent will take the damage and have you put the card into your graveyard which is not helping you. Steel Overseer has great interaction with artifact tokens especially Thopters. It also has good interaction with Unwinding Clock letting you on everyone's turn put a counter on all your artifact tokens.

For control you've added three very good counterspells (Counterspell, Swan Song and Negate). Broken Concentration and Silumgar's Scorn don't compare to these other counterspells, that's why you should consider cutting them. Stoic Rebuttal because of the artifact theme activating metalcraft is good enough to add. Instead of more control, focus on your artifact game plan with Saheeli?

NoSoyYucateco on

1 year ago

Silumgar's Scorn and Broken Concentration are poor counterspells for this deck. You have two dragons, and very few instant speed effects that make you discard. I recommend swapping these for Arcane Denial, Stoic Rebuttal, Disdainful Stroke, Tale's End, Disallow, or Spell Swindle.

Barbarian_Sun_Pope on Excuse me, but I believe you took my artifacts...

1 year ago

Have you considered Stoic Rebuttal as an alternative to Cancel. It can become a Counterspell as the game goes on. Spell Swindle and Hornswoggle could also be good alternatives as they generate additional artifacts with the counter. Hope this helps.

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