Hollow One

Hollow One

Artifact Creature — Golem

This spell costs less to cast for each card you've cycled or discarded this turn.

Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)

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Hollow One Discussion

Oof_Magic on Banlist Open Discussion

1 month ago

TriusMalarky

I think the notion that cards should be banned primarily for being unfun is against the spirit of the format. That takes away agency from players. There are plenty of annoying cards and decks. Maybe I find Mox Opal annoying but Mycosynth Lattice to be rather fun. Banning a card for being unfun is going to frustrate those that find it fun and the best explanation that could be given is ‘Well your opinion is in the minority.’ Bans should have some sort of backing with data to support it. Maybe it’s the consistency of speed. Maybe it’s the ubiquity of play. The only ban I know of that Wizards did primarily for being unfun would be Aetherworks Marvel. Wizards chucked more data into that announcement than any other to my knowledge. CYA That article was so long because that’s what happens when you turn over every stone and find the only explanation left is ‘y’all don’t like it.’ Any other article would just spit out the data to support the ban and be done with it.

I think it’s dismissive of combo decks to say a card should be banned if it only exists to do broken things. There should be a speed/consistency threshold. To say you can’t make infinite mana? You can’t cheat a big creature into play? Who’s using Ad Nauseam to do anything fair? Is anyone running Vizier of Remedies without Devoted Druid? Puresteel Paladin? Amulet of Vigor? Goryo's Vengeance? Blazing Shoal is, in my opinion, the most unbannable card. Lattice would be but admittedly, Karn would have to take its spot on the bus. Bridge was a strong component of Hollow One when it had Faithless Looting. Then Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis and Altar of Dementia came along and broke it wide open. They tried to weaken it with a Bridge ban but ultimately hit Hogaak anyway. I think they should have unbanned Bridge when they banned Hogaak. Or at least Golgari Grave-Troll?

I suppose a repeatable artifact tutor is okay even if a creature one is not? I stand by saying if something wasn’t a problem until X comes along, X made the problem. Lattice made Karn a one card combo. Karn falls into the same space as Stoneforge Mystic and Birthing Pod. To that end, if Pod means WotC has to check every creature they make, doesn’t Karn mean they have to check artifacts and Mystic mean equipment?

The more I think about Jitte, the more inclined I am to say it should stay banned. Giving every creature deck Jitte is not as conducive to format health as giving white creature decks Stoneforge.

You know what’s unfun to sit across? Urza's Saga. Unban Field of the Dead.

Caerwyn on Banlist Open Discussion

1 month ago

It is worth pointing out that Deathrite Shaman is also banned in Legacy, where, for a while, it was called "the best Planeswalker in the format."

It is also the single most played creature in the Vintage by a large margin. 22.1% of Vintage decks run a full set of four copies of Deathrite Shaman. The next highest creature is Collector Ouphe, sitting at a mere 15.9% of decks, with an average of only 2.3 copies run. The only other creature in the top ten creatures in Vintage that gets a full set of four is Hollow One, which is not indicative of Hollow One's general applicability, just its usefulness in Hollow One decks.

Saying DRS would be fine in Modern ignores that it was enough of a problem to be banned in Legacy and is powerful enough to reign unquestionably supreme amongst creatures in Vintage.

It is not a problem in Pauper because I’m Pauper it will mostly be a 1/2 for 1 because there are no fetches. Fetches mean DRS is useful every single turn--it is a bird that can also burn your opponent repeatedly as long as you have ammunition.

GoodLuckorDie on Lose Your Mind (Budget)

2 months ago

I thought about Hollow One but I couldn't quite figure out where to slot it. I think Burning Inquiry would be a great idea for this deck except it is a "budget" deck that I'm trying to keep under $30. Similar problem for Dark Deal. If you're thinking about upgrading the deck, these are great cards to start with. Additionally, If I include Thrilling Discovery, then I would want some more white mana lands/rocks to help play it. The biggest problem is that this deck is fueled by looter cards so if I can't play those cards then the deck won't work. Thanks for the suggestions!

zapyourtumor on Lose Your Mind (Budget)

2 months ago

Burning Inquiry is a great enabler and also usually pisses off your opponents by ruining their hand

Thrilling Discovery is probably a better madness enabler than Thrill of Possibility

Dark Deal could be another nice symmetrical discard spell

Hollow One you can usually cast for free

legendofa on Looking for (virtual-/) 1-drops w/ …

7 months ago

I understand. I'm not sure you're going to find anything more efficient, with fewer hoops to jump through, than Hollow One or Vexing Devil . It's an interesting deck idea, and there has to be a way to make it work. Good luck!

sergiodelrio on Looking for (virtual-/) 1-drops w/ …

7 months ago

Hi folks!

So I want to see how I could capitalize more on Stubborn Denial and Ponder ing creative options.

Please suggest creatures, of any color, that could be cast for 1 mana, or less, and have or easily gain a power stat of 4 or more.

Here's what I got so far:

+++ Edit:

Levellers are off the table, they just need too much mana to pump.

Which ones am I missing? Not looking for creatures that get pumped by a specific other spell, but rather pump as I play, or get heavy cost reduction. I really need stuff that reaches power 4 quickly and/or easily and not jump through too many hoops.

Thanks in advance!

[email protected] on Belzo, Demon Warlord

8 months ago
  1. Pay 4{C}2{B} to cast Demonlord Belzenlok .

  2. Exile any black card not necessary to the combo to cast Unmask on yourself discarding Phantasmagorian .

  3. Discard Skirge Familiar , Dread Return , and any other non-combo card to return Phantasmagorian hand.

  4. Cast Deepwood Legate for free. If none of your opponents control a Forest , you will need: one extra {B} and two additional activations of Phantasmagorian 's ability (discarding 6 non-combo cards) to be able to fully delve into Sibsig Muckdraggers . Sibsig Muckdraggers ’s trigger requires an additional creature be present in your graveyard in order to avoid returning Skirge Familiar to your hand. Dross Golem can also be used here in place of Deepwood Legate .

  5. Cast Hollow One for free.

  6. Flashback Dread Return by sacrificing Demonlord Belzenlok , Hollow One and Deepwood Legate to return Skirge Familiar to the battlefield.

  7. Use Skirge Familiar 's ability to discard Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon , Lotus Guardian , Endling , Cinderhaze Wretch , and Dread to add 5{B}. -- Skirge Familiar can generate mana to cast Meteor Golem to deal with direct threats to the win condition.

  8. Pay to cast Necrotic Ooze . If Necrotic Ooze gets countered, return it using Makeshift Mannequin or Sibsig Muckdraggers .

  9. Pay to give Necrotic Ooze haste (courtesy of Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon ).

  10. Tap Necrotic Ooze to add {B} (courtesy of Lotus Guardian ).

  11. Pay to give Necrotic Ooze undying (courtesy of Endling ).

  12. Alternate between Lotus Guardian 's and Cinderhaze Wretch 's abilities until Necrotic Ooze dies to add 2{B}. Once Necrotic Ooze comes back with a +1/+1 counter via undying, pay to give it haste and undying (again) then continue to alternate between Lotus Guardian 's and Cinderhaze Wretch 's abilities until Necrotic Ooze dies to add 4{B}. Repeat this process until you have infinite {B}.

--- Optional: Give Necrotic Ooze infinite +1/+1, haste, undying, menace, and deathtouch from Deepwood Legate , Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon , and Endling . Then use both of Cinderhaze Wretch 's abilities to make all your opponents discard their hands.

Finally, use the infinite {B} mana to cast Syr Konrad, the Grim , continue generating infinite mana with Necrotic Ooze , Cinderhaze Wretch , and Lotus Guardian , and bleed out all of your opponents from the infinite undying triggers. Syr Konrad, the Grim 's ability can also be used to mill everybody else at the table. Dread hitting the graveyard and immediately leaving will also trigger damage.

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion can also be discarded with Skirge Familiar and then reanimated using Living Death for an alternate win condition.

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