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Lunar Convocation
Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, each opponent loses 1 life.
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained and lost life this turn, create a 1/1 black Bat creature token with flying.
, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.
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DemonDragonJ on Greed or Lunar Convocation?
1 month ago
I have a copy of Greed in my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk EDH deck, but I am considering replacing it with Lunar Convocation, because that card has additional abilities; yes, the additional mana for the card-drawing ability will add up over time, but the other two abilities are very useful for that deck, so I do believe that the card would be a very nice addition to it.
What does everyone else say, about this? Should I keep Greed in my Liesa deck, or replace it with Lunar Convocation? I certainly am eager to hear your responses, on this subject.
Tsukimi on
Things Betor Left Undead [Primer]
2 months ago
Excellent suggestions, thanks! I can't believe I forgot Vault of the Archangel. Lunar Convocation is too mana intensive, I feel like I have have more efficient ways to lose more life. I'll keep the others on the maybelist as I edit (Except Serra Ascendent, always feels cheesy in EDH to me)
Crow_Umbra on
Things Betor Left Undead [Primer]
2 months ago
I'm excited to see where you go with this, especially as you flesh out your primer some more. Just a few ideas off the top:
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Vault of the Archangel - Helpful in a pinch if you have the mana for it, but I think has some extra value in this deck as a quick life gain anthem for your board.
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Serra Ascendant would be a great aggro threat for this deck, if not too on the nose lol.
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Lunar Convocation - Seems like it could be a decent value fit with everything your deck wants to do.
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The Gaffer could be a consistent draw piece
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Celestine, the Living Saint - More Betor redundancy.
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Witch of the Moors offers some removal and redundancy to Betor.
Apoptosis on
All my life
5 months ago
Added the following: Ivory Tower Marauding Blight-Priest Mystic Veil Crypt Rats Glacial Chasm Mortify Starscape Cleric Slaughter Spirit Link Cyclonic Rift Robe of Mirrors Lunar Convocation Void Rend Darkstar Augur Dawn of Hope Damn
Farewell Karlov of the Ghost Council Splendor Mare Pestilence Drogskol Reaver
Noxid05 on Should I Keep Greed in …
6 months ago
Do you find that you are often needing to use the card draw from Greed? If so it is probably worth keeping it. However, if your Greed is frequently getting destroyed Erebos, God of the Dead would probably be better, especially if life gain decks, or Sanguine Bond combos are frequent in your meta. If you only use your greed occasionally, and it doesn't get destroyed often Lunar Convocation as it has the the most utility imo outside of card draw. Hopefully this helps :)
DemonDragonJ on Should I Keep Greed in …
6 months ago
I have a copy of Greed in my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk EDH deck, because that enchantment is such an amazing resource in that deck, but I am contemplating replacing that card with one of two other cards, so I would like to ask everyone else here, for advice, on this matter.
The first card that I am considering as a replacement for Greed is Erebos, God of the Dead, since he has the exact same mana cost as Greed, as well as being indestructible, preventing my opponents from gaining life, and potentially being a 5/7 creature, but my only concern is that his activated ability costs 1 more mana than does that of Greed, and that additional cost shall add up, over the course of a game.
The second card that I am considering is Lunar Convocation, because that card is less expensive than is Greed, yet has several amazing abilities, but, again, its primary ability costs 1 more mana than does that of Greed, so I am not certain if I can justify replacing the existing enchantment.
What does everyone else say about this? Should I keep Greed in my Liesa deck, or should I replace it with one of the other two cards? Is it worth paying 1 additional mana to draw a card in exchange for the additional abilities? I certainly would appreciate any feedback that anyone here may have to offer.
_Kane_ on
Karlov of the Ghost Council
6 months ago
Raven_of_Arella on
Vamp/Bats
9 months ago
Hi basedgubbs! If you are new to Magic the Gathering then welcome! I love that your first deck idea is based around bats and vampires as the vampires are what drew me into Magic! I don't want to throw too much at you in this comment but want to help get you on the right track so you can craft this deck how you want.
Sticking with the white and black cards making up your deck so far, I would switch out your commander with a white and black color identity (Elesh only allows for white cards to be in the deck). Some of my recommendations in no particular order are: Commissar Severina Raine, Baron Bertram Graywater, Elenda, the Dusk Rose, MacCready, Lamplight Mayor, and Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim. I think any of these could prove useful in building lots of bats and vamps!
I would also recommend taking out 20 lands (10 Swamp and 10 Plains) and splitting those 20 slots into Instants/ sorceries/ enchantments/artifacts.
Here are just some card recommendations for generating bats and vampires: Regal Bloodlord, Lunar Convocation, Call the Bloodline, Bloodline Keeper Flip, Timothar, Baron of Bats, and Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal Flip. A couple cool cards that might be fun for winning are: Mephidross Vampire Malakir Bloodwitch.
Wishing you the best on your journey with MtG and happy crafting!
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