Hymn to Tourach

Sorcery

Target player discards two cards at random.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

legendofa on Lotus Petal vs. Chrome Mox

2 months ago

Not competitive (especially Legacy), but I'm an 8-Rack enthusiast.

Setting up fast is important. Once you have your Rack lock set up, at least in my experience, you only really need a couple mana each turn, so the mana from that Chrome Mox might be less valuable than the card that got imprinted. Especially with a set of Dark Rituals, it should be easy to set at least one Rack effect and a Hymn to Tourach or Thoughtseize on turn 1 and build with 1-2 mana a turn from there, with a little burst for Liliana of the Veil or Ensnaring Bridge or whatever as needed.

So my vote's for the Lotus Petal. Prioritizing your denial and removal seems more important than a guaranteed extra {B} each turn, but I'd be very interested to see how well it works in practice.

jethstriker on How Good is Tyrannize?

4 months ago

If the goal of the deck is to make the opponent discard, then I suggest you replace the creatures that needs to connect first for more dedicated discard spells. Wrench Mind, Hymn to Tourach, and Mind Twist partnered with The Rack and Shrieking Affliction makes a good base for a discarder deck.

Also, I think its already common knowledge that choice cards are not ideal inclusions. If you really insist on using them, one of the better choice cards I recommend is Vexing Devil. It comes down fast and early enough that the opponent might make the wrong choice due to lack of information.

Squee_Spirit_Guide on Mono B control

6 months ago

I do love non-blue control :) I think Dark Ritual would be a good addition, helping you power into your high cmc spells quicker. If you want to attack your opponent's hand Hymn to Tourach and Duress are very strong. No one expects Withering Boon and it can get rid of black creatures. Depending on the kind of creatures you find yourself up against Nekrataal, Crypt Rats, and Pestilence can be very good. Corrupt and Kaervek's Spite are fun finishers late on. Kaervek's Spite may be the most satisfying, all-in way to win in {B}. I'm sure there are better cards out there, but around the kitchen table those are some of my favourites for mono black!

Gidgetimer on Modern Banlist

7 months ago

He was right 4 years ago. Punishing Jund is a Legacy deck and outside of the mana base, three Hymn to Tourach and a single Sylvan Library it is modern legal. At the time of the banning the deck was just too oppressive and consistent to exist in Modern.

DreadKhan on Rushed to die

7 months ago

I find Bonecrusher Giant (and Stomp) play pretty well in a Burn deck, the body is just big enough to be worth casting, and Stomp can remove problematic utility creatures like a Thalia, Guardian of Thraben that are ruining your day; two meh effects add up to one surprisingly playable card in my experience! Another random card that might synergize well with what you've got going on is Tourach, Dread Cantor, this guy loves discard effects, offering you a potentially useful body that scales over time, as is you don't have any payoffs for making opponents discard, just that they have no cards in hand (and if that's what you're looking for you should switch Dash Hopes for the old Hymn to Tourach for a more reliable effect, an early Hymn can single handedly win games, 2 random cards for 2 mana on turn 2 is sadistic.

This is incredibly ironic coming from me, but I feel like you probably have too many 3 mana spells in here, when I was testing I had to mulligan more for your deck specifically because I kept running into hands with too many 3 drops. For example, my 80 card Azorius Legacy deck has only 17 3 drops, and I feel like that might be too many, 19 in a 60 card deck that only has 18 lands is asking for trouble IMHO.

YMMV but I wonder if your plan would work better if you leaned harder into discard or harder into burn instead of mixing them? If you cut your weenies you could throw in Racks/Afflictions, if you trimmed some burn spells you could throw in some Lilianas, and suddenly your mana base only needs Black for a discard list. Similarly you could trim the discard stuff and make it an all Red Burn list, it's doable to win on/before turn 3 with Burn in Legacy, and that can be mono-Red, but you'd need cards like Fireblast to make that happen. You could take a look at Got a One Way Ticket to the Blues, my discard list, or Diesel Driven Burn, my Burn list, for potential ideas if you want to lean into a specific lane. Feel free to ignore my advice if you're happy with your list, you're playing your deck after all!

Blackerhawk on Teenybones steels ur tings >:)

1 year ago

How about a The Rack (but it's only one target), a Skullcage and a Nezumi Shortfang  ^Flip for added damage based on hand size? And a good old Hymn to Tourach to replace one of the other discard cards.

Azoth2099 on Tergrid Sac Discard Draw help please

1 year ago

Asyriel

Ok, so here's a few top picks (imho) for Tergrid, God of Fright  ^Flip.

Oppression, Liliana, Waker of the Dead, Rankle, Master of Pranks, Living Death, Delirium Skeins, Innocent Blood, Cunning Lethemancer, Bottomless Pit, Necrogen Mists, Words of Waste, Smokestack, Sword of Feast and Famine & Chains of Mephistopheles (just proxy it lol)

There's also a lot of cheaper options that are just as synergistic like Plaguecrafter, Demon's Disciple, Raven's Crime, Hymn to Tourach, Mind Twist, Mind Shatter, Mind Slash & Sadistic Hypnotist.

Outside of the synergy pieces, I'd recommend replacing some of those low-power pieces like Bad Deal & Inevitable End with value pieces like Dark Ritual & Vampiric Tutor for greater consistency.

RockIV on the book of the dead

1 year ago

hey there darklight90 , thnks for the advice , i appreciate it alot!.

I been watching an testing your deck , its awesome. I remember wondering if the deck would be better with other type of spells like dicard, but i ended up only using reanimate type spells only, to make the deck quicker. I always felt that if i start with a hand with no reanimate chance, it would be a loss. ive seen people using Hymn to Tourach as a defensive sepll. The most optimal woul be using dicard spells that can be used with me or with the oponent, like you do.

Thoughtseize is an awesome card, sadly i dont have it, thats why im using Cabal Therapy. i need to get some copies of it, but is too expensive T_T

Love how the Lotus Petal interact with the deck!.

Collective Brutality its another interesting card, so many uses!