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- Does olivia voldaren's first ability trigger deathtouch and lifelink?
- How would "Conspiracy" work with effects that change my creatures types?
- Olivia voldaren deals 1 damage to dark confidant with stromkirk captain on battlefield, will Dark Confidant live?
- necrotic ooze + olivia Voldaren
Legendary Creature — Vampire
: Olivia Voldaren deals 1 damage to another target creature. That creature becomes a vampire in addition to its other types. Put a +1/+1 counter on Olivia Valdaren.
: Gain control of target Vampire for as long as you control Olivia Voldaren.
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1 month ago
Dead_Blue_ - Good stuff, given me some things to think about!
For Oliva, I liked the Mobilized for War variant as she is cheap for her strength, I like the Flying for evasion, and her ability to discard/pump creatures and add pressure by giving them Haste. The discard is handy for Haakan or just to get creatures in the graveyard for Breathless Knight's benefit. I have an aristocrat/counters vampire themed deck that Olivia Voldaren would likely fit in better with her ability to put +1/+1 counters on herself and steal opponent's creatures that could then be sacrificed for additional benefits. I will add that to the maybe board there!
I know what you mean about the "draining resources" with the discard enablers. It is a double-sided sword as at times, it is helpful but others...not so much. Nameless Inversion is a great card for this deck as its Shapeshifter class allows me to recast it unlimited times as long as Haakon is in play. A single copy of that can literally clear an opponent's creature board in a single turn if I have the mana to burn. Finding the balance of discard spells will be something I will experiment with so thanks for the spell suggestions!
I never even thought about Hollow One for this deck. Shame it is not a Knight but with Collective Brutality, under most circumstances, you could cast Hollow One for free or 1 CMC...that would be pretty nice!
1 month ago
I think Olivia should be Olivia Voldaren instead and that your removal suite should be completely overhauled. I get it that you want discard enablers but there are many situations where you will not want to drain your own resources to cast spells. I’d probably run Lightning Bolt, Unholy Heat & Terminate over Bone Shards, Lightning Axe & Nameless Inversion
I’d also think 4x Hollow One needs to be a must
3 months ago
Olivia Voldaren isn't in Standard, but your playgroup might allow it.
Be more aggressive with Vamps? Think Falkenrath Pit Fighter, not Olivia? More aggressive because the Vamp tribal matters cards here are Vampire Socialite and Gift of Fangs. These cards lean towards wanting more Vamps on the battlefield and being more aggressive with attacking. Turn 1 Falkenrath Pit Fighter, turn 2 Gift of Fangs enchanting Fighter is attacking with a 4/3 turn 2. Fighter can be more draw if it's not useful anymore.
Florian, Voldaren Scion is a good three drop Vamp, holds Gift of Fangs and counters from Vampire Socialite well with first strike. His trigger can be repeatable draw with a lot of card selection first if you're doing nice damage to your opponent with Vamps which being more aggressive with Vamps helps with.
3 months ago
I did have BBE in some of the early versions of the deck. The main reason is that there are better 4-drops and even a 5-drop that are strong finishers. Olivia Voldaren being the best of those. Also, with Riveteers Charm in the deck, it could be a bad hit off BBE as the most common mode choice is the second one.
You could definitely tweak the list by running 3-4 copies of Bloodbraid Elf, a playset of Nissa, Voice of Zendikar as the only planeswalker in the deck (Maybe keeping a single Liliana, the Last Hope, Domri, Anarch of Bolas or even Grist, the Hunger Tide), and really focus on the +1/+1 Counters plan with Bloodhall Ooze.
As the deck is now, there are several lines to victory:
Combat damage (Most common)
Ultimate Sorin the Mirthless
Posion Counters with Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
Endless Zombies with Liliana, the Last Hope
By cutting the 4+ MV cards for Bloodbraid Elf, the deck loses 2 win conditions. You could still run the higher MV cards, but risk cascading through them in the process.
Hope that helps a little bit. Thanks for the question!
4 months ago
Creature - Human Zombie
You may cast ~ from your graveyard by sacrificing a creature and paying and 4 life.
When ~ enters the battlefield, it fights target non-zombie creature. That creature becomes a black zombie in addition to its other colors and types. If that creature would die this way, regenerate it.
When ~ dies, it deals 1 damage to target non-zombie creature. That creature becomes a black zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
I thought of this concept while working with Olivia Voldaren. A vampire that can bite and convert other creatures into vampires is super flavorful, and I wanted to imagine a zombie version of a flavorful creature. Here, its a zombie that is biting and converting others into zombies.
Your challenge: Choose any creature type and make a creature that really fits the theme and flavor of that tribe.
7 months ago
Blasting Zone and Dragonskull Summit imho could go for more fetches, you could also look at the removal options red gives you such as Lightning Bolt and Terminate. Dreadbore is a sorcery which is usually bad for removal but planeswalker hate is at a premium in the current meta.
My main recommendations for other vampires you could add would be Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet and Knight of the Ebon Legion. Both are extremely powerful. I'd recommend Olivia Voldaren if your deck weren't obviously meant to be an aggressive build. Maybe Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip on the same note. If you can squeeze in more Sorins you could consider Champion of Dusk, Lord Xander, the Collector, or sideboard Blood Baron of Vizkopa.
Adanto Vanguard is a fantastic white vamp btw.
Personally, I'd drop the Martyrs of Dusk for Bloodghast as well. You could cut 1 cordial and 2-3 Indulgent Aristocrat for more support.
It looks strong for a somewhat rough draft, a little finetuning and you might have something good here.
8 months ago
NerdPounder: I like pretty much all of your suggestions! =D
Vampire Socialite & Falkenrath Pit Fighter both used to be in the deck. They were actually both cut in favour of the instant speed draw spells (Village Rites, etc.), as I often found I pretty much always have creatures to sacrifice, but didn't always have cards to discard. The instant speed draw is pretty nice to have in response to board wipes as well, but since then I've also added Pact of the Serpent and Phyrexian Arena, so perhaps I don't need them anymore.
There are a few life gain decks in my playgroup which was the inspiration for the inclusion of Sorin Markov, but you're right that he doesn't really add any value beyond that. Probably he'll be replaced with Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord.
Smothering Tithe is just a really solid card, and really good with Anointed Procession, but you're right that it is distracting from my strategy and could likely be cut. Olivia Voldaren is definitely in that camp as well. In the couple months this deck has been together I've cast her a number of times but have never activated her lol.
I do disagree about cutting Vicious Conquistador, though. Between it and Pulse Tracker in combination with Impact Tremors, Purphoros, God of the Forge and Sanctum Seeker they can really help with piling on damage over the course of the game.
I used to use Legion's Landing Flip when Ixalan was in Standard but had kind of forgotten this card existed haha, good call! Adanto Vanguard was also in that same deck, and it was a really great beater with great sticking power. I think it's going to find a home here as well.
Thanks again for all the great suggestions and the upvote! =)
9 months ago
Lietenant looks nice on paper at a glance, but tbh I feel like he's for vamps with a very low, fast curve, and imo at least 8 turn 1 creatures.
Reasons to play Orzhov would also include Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip, Blood Baron of Vizkopa, Adanto Vanguard and Welcoming Vampire. Edgar is the same base effect as Lietenant for twice the mana but Edgar has a much better body, being out of bolt range immediately and immune to Vanishing Verse, and even if he eats a Push or Unholy Heat he doesn't STAY gone. White also gives you access to some of the best sideboard cards ever made including things like Stony Silence and Rest in Peace.
Reasons to play Rakdos are numerous. Stromkirk Noble, Stromkirk Captain, Olivia Voldaren, Insolent Neonate, Falkenrath Pit Fighter, and from the non-creature side, Lightning Bolt, Terminate, Dreadbore, and a whole host of sideboard options like Rakdos Charm, Abrade, Shatterstorm, Boil, and so on.