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- Does olivia voldaren's first ability trigger deathtouch and lifelink?
- How would "Conspiracy" work with effects that change my creatures types?
- Olivia voldaren deals 1 damage to dark confidant with stromkirk captain on battlefield, will Dark Confidant live?
- necrotic ooze + olivia Voldaren
Legendary Creature — Vampire
: Olivia Voldaren deals 1 damage to another target creature. That creature becomes a vampire in addition to its other types. Put a +1/+1 counter on Olivia Valdaren.
: Gain control of target Vampire for as long as you control Olivia Voldaren.
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Olivia Voldaren Discussion
1 month ago
SirChris39 i don't like at all Olivia, Mobilized for War even if Olivia Voldaren is one of my favorite cards in the game, there's no point to make creatures hasty and +1/+1 if the goal of the deck is wordlgorger combo or dualcaster+twinflame combo, Ad Nauseam even if it is indeed one of the best cards in cEDH, i can't recommend it in a deck with so high cmc cost due to the madness cards we use to cycle then deck, it can turn very bad for us in terms of damange taken. Insidious Dreams that's a great card i will consider to add to my mainboard since it can be another Doomsday for just 1 more mana and some cards in hand, all without the doomsday backdraw of exiling every other card from both library and graeyard. The manabase isn't great since the deck aim is to be budget you haven't access to cards like Ancient Tomb and Badland but for sure i will cut 4 mountains and add 4 swamps since you need more black than red. not having access to Mana Crypt is the worst part of playing in budget, since you don't run solid mana acceleratos, you can't get Anje Falkenrath on turn 2 and that's really bad; some budget accelerators for turn 2 anje could be Blood Pet , Skirk Prospector , Jeweled Amulet , Simian Spirit Guide , Dark Ritual . Sadly, if you want to play cEDH on budget, you have to be prepared to hard loses since things like the diamond cycle and Everflowing Chalice are just too slow for the format. The main problem with a deck like anje madness combo is actually his game plan: you can't decide to play the worldgorger dragon combo in a casual way because it is just too good so you have to play it in a competitive way in order to match your opponet's power level because if you bring a combo deck like this against a casual group hug Phelddagrif player, the gameplay would be like a solitary of yourself doing your things with the opponent trying to interact with you in a suboptimal way and that's just not fun, either way, you can't sit at a cEDH table with a deck that is way too slow for the format because you will end up to be eaten by flash+hulk, isocron shepter+drammatic reversal, ad nauseam storm, teferi+chain veil. The solutions to this problem are actually 3 (if i don't forget others but idk): use proxy cards if you don't play sancioned events and if your playgroup allow them, invest some money buying cards and bringing your deck to the required power level or you can remove all the combos and play the deck just like a madness deck at a casual EDH table; i personally don't like this last option but can turn to be a fun archetype to build and play since you can use really strong and fun cards like Bone Miser , Waste Not with all the discard hatebears, Liliana Vess , Yawgmoth, Thran Physician and his son K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth or cards like Praetor's Grasp , Sheoldred, Whispering One and Gonti, Lord of Luxury for some "heavy black deck flavor" or you can even turn it to a full vampire madness tribal with Falkenrath Gorger ! If you want to stick to the good old one Worldgorger Dragon combo, pls don't do it in casual edh but try to tweak at best for cedh instead otherwise you will ruin some random player day without having fun at all, i can say that 100% . Hope i helped you is some way and happy brewing :D
3 months ago
Modern huh? Unless you wanna do a sacrifice engine you're better going Rakdos or Mardu.
Vamps also wanna run pretty light on mana in either case. 3 or less cost = good, use 4+ mana cards very sparingly. Like Sanguine/Exquisite are simply too slow to be good imo.
Now, depending on your budget, you could do something like.....
4 Viscera Seer , 4 Bloodghast , 4 Blood Artist or Kalastria Highborn , 4 Cordial Vampire , maybe 4 Vampire Nocturnus or Vampire Lacerator and 2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet or Captivating Vampire , or maybe even 4 Dusk Legion Zealot or Gatekeeper of Malakir .
For hate spells, usable ones are things like Fatal Push , Lightning Bolt , Path to Exile , Terminate , Cast Down , Kolaghan's Command , or if you have money, Liliana of the Veil , Liliana, the Last Hope , and also to bring him up on this subject: Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord . Hand disruption is expensive, looking at Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek , and Collective Brutality . But black has almost a monopoly on that.
Hope this gave you some insight. Welcome to the dark side.
5 months ago
A massive update this time. One that I'm very excited about. Here are the changes:
- Gilded Lotus -> Fanatical Firebrand
- Sword of the Animist -> Swiftfoot Boots
- Mana Crypt -> Thermo-Alchemist
- Neheb, the Eternal -> Pilgrim's Eye
- Abyssal Persecutor -> Coldsteel Heart
- Dire Fleet Ravager -> Rune-Scarred Demon
- Fiery Confluence -> Painful Truths
- Olivia Voldaren -> Goblin Fireslinger
- Damnation -> Damnable Pact
- Steel Hellkite -> It That Betrays
- Bojuka Bog -> Smoldering Marsh
- Oppression -> Artisan of Kozilek
- Rakdos, the Showstopper -> Theater of Horrors
- Sol Ring -> Lobber Crew
- Flame Rift -> Gamble
- Rakdos Charm -> Lotus Petal
- Duplicant -> Walking Ballista
- Scourge of the Throne -> Void Winnower
- Bloodgift Demon -> Mask of Memory
- Kokusho, the Evening Star -> Painful Lesson
- Oblivion Stone -> Necropotence
- Risk Factor -> Dark Ritual
- Whip of Erebos -> Plague Spitter
- Heartless Hidetsugu -> Arguel's Blood Fast Flip
Overall, the deck is faster and more consistent. Here's a summary of changes by card category:
- direct damage is now at lower cmc
- -1 Ramp
- +1 protection/haste
- +2 tutor
- +5 draw
- +1 anti-control
- -4 Creature removal
- -2 graveyard hate
- -1 discard
- -1 extra attack
- -1 lifegain/recursion
- +1 removal
So the changes overall are lower cmc, more draw and tutor, less creature removal and less utility (graveyard hate, extra attacks, etc.) Overall, the early turn plays to get direct damage and get Rakdos out are far more prevalent. The deck is more aggressive and more focused now, and plays much smoother.
And yes, this is the only deck I have where I've taken out Sol Ring . It's simply better to have only colored mana in order to cast Rakdos as consistently as possible!
6 months ago
So Olivia Voldaren would be a safe Captain? That isn't her knee, bitch is hung!
6 months ago
Varchild struggles because blinking is more of white's thing. Varchild seems sweet... but it needs white to really shine. Still looks like a fun brew.
Olivia Voldaren can Mind Control vampires, and her ping turns creatures into vampires. MindTouch > ExileTouch, and doesn't require giving her deathtouch. Not that there aren't corner cases where Kumano, Master Yamabushi wins out for utility (such as his ability to ping face which olivia lacks), but rather that Olivia Voldaren is superior in 9/10 situations. Of your suggestions, Kumano, Master Yamabushi still seems the most interesting to me. Being able to use him with Braid of Fire to just spit damage at people in the late game makes for quite the finisher, and it's right in flavor for what red wants to do.
Marton Stromgald is a 4 mana 1/1 with no protection, no evasion, and no way to win the game except by combat, which he doesn't even buff himself for. For him to be good, you need a ton of creatures, some enchant/equip to make him unblockable/indestructible, and for your opponent to have significantly less creatures and/or weaker creatures than yours. Basically: marton's only good if you're already winning by a landslide anyway. Krenko, Mob Boss generates his own tokens, and keeps generating exponentially more of them. If he's not dealt with, he will eventually win a game all by himself, no A+B required. Marton will never win a game without the help of a 4-5 card setup, minimum. That's... not impressive. I really think marton's a dud here, but good on anyone who believes they can make him work.
6 months ago
The issue that Kumano, Master Yamabushi runs into is that he's competing with Olivia Voldaren for ping-control. Since black is much better than red at granting deathtouch and lifelink (the two most relevant abilities to give him), Voldaren tends to win out. He DOES seem sweet though.
6 months ago
Might be too many lords, 4 Captivating and 4 Stromkirk seems like overkill. I'm not a fan of Bloodline Keeper due to him being slow and Indulgent, I feel should probably be lower. More utility creatures are a good idea. If you want tempo then things like Viscera Seer , Bloodghast , Gatekeeper of Malakir , Olivia Voldaren and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet are all great. Worth mentioning: Stromkirk Noble is a crazy good 1-drop, despite not being black. I also feel like 4 Fatal Push is obligatory here. Kinda prefer Asylum Visitor over Zealots because I like hitting hard.
Land recommendations: Go big on fetches and run 1-2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . The Ghast and Nocturnus synergy is unreal. Could probably cut a Cavern or 2, perhaps a mutavault. 8 feches is plenty but if you can go to 9 or 10 do so.
Good luck, have a nice drink tonight if you know what I mean.
6 months ago
Of the ones you mention Oloro is by far the most control oriented. A friend of mine built him as a pillow fort deck that allows cards like Twilight Prophet to slowly bleed his opponents out. You can really build any Esper control shell around him.
At your budget I would flat out avoid Kaalia. A lot of the meat of the deck, the angels/demons/dragons, usually don't cost too much money but the support to make the deck run smoothly without her in play can eat a budget pretty fast...
Scarab I think makes for an interesting one to head a mill deck. You mill out your opponents and grab their creatures with him as you go, lol. Mill itself is usually a bad win con in commander but it can feed your deck and allow things like Bloodchief Ascension to run away with the game. It can also feed your opponent's graveyard deck too so be careful if you go that way...
I've watched an Edgar pre-con take out a table of '75%' decks. It was mostly just luck but the deck can be really well tuned around low CMC vampires and is just as aggro as aggro can be. I think the control element to it is pretty weak so you may not like Edgar very much. It should be within your budget though.
Olivia Voldaren should also be doable within budget, even more so because she is only 2 colors. I don't really think of her as vampire tribal but more of a creature control deck. Get a lot of mana with things like Crypt Ghast or give her deathtouch with Basilisk Collar and just go to town.
Olivia Voldaren occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
RBW (Mardu): 0.42%