Ancient Gold Dragon

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Ancient Gold Dragon

Creature — Elder Dragon

Flying

Whenever Ancient Gold Dragon deals combat damage to a player, roll a twenty sided die. You create a number of 1/1 blue Faerie Dragon creature tokens with flying equal to the result. (Remember that MTG spindowns are not well weight balanced, so please roll a die that isn't an MTG spindown.)

TitanWalls on Whippits (Jolly Balloon Man Token Primer)

7 months ago

Lol, the reason I stayed away from cards like Ancient Gold Dragon, Battle Angels of Tyr, and Charismatic Conqueror is pretty much just because I've been approaching The Jolly Balloon Man as a commander for a budget deck. I ended up leaning away from the value-generating blink effects because in playtesting, unless I hit the instant-win combo, it was actually just taking forever to deal lethal damage. As for Custodi Soulbinders, I agree the activated ability isn't very attractive but I do like the prospect generating one or more flying tokens every turn with P/T equal to 1+ the total number of creature owned by all players. Obviously it depends on playgroup, but I'd think that for a lot of games at turn 6 or later, the copy tokens would probably come in as at least 20/20's. It was a way to go very tall that also takes advantage of the token generation route, but you're right that it's totally expendable if you want to purely focus on making more tokens. And I'm glad you like the Jackdaw Savior, I had to double check the rules myself to make sure I wasn't crazy, but yeah, the synergy really is wild!

SlangNTrees13 on Whippits (Jolly Balloon Man Token Primer)

7 months ago

Hey TitanWalls, I really like Threefold Thunderhulk. That's a lot of tokens coming in with a copy ability or untap or two to take advantage of our damage pingers. Ancient Gold Dragon has also caught my eye if I decide to slot in anymore high mana cost baddies. For now I had stayed away from going heavy token creation and focusing on our own balloon tokens, as do you feel the 7 mana is still worth it when we could be dropping the likes of Battle Angels of Tyr or Charismatic Conqueror for much less? You have got the wheels turning though here to shift our focus towards damage pingers with copiable token creators. I do like it very much. I run Boss's Chauffeur in my Jetmir deck to great effect and the lower 5 mana cost is appealing despite its other creature dependent conditionality. If I do move to the token route it would definitely make sense. Custodi Soulbinders Cool one, but don't want to have to pay that 3 mana activation cost. For Jackdaw Savior I had to read your comment and sat for a second and then went, "Does it copy the mana value? Have I ever known this?" and then realize yes, yes it does. So, Jackdaw I'm going to get in for sure, don't want to lose Sevinne's Reclamation as I want to be able to get any permanent, so Karmic Guide will most likely get the chop. You are right, edhrec is good at listing any Commander synergy cards. Thanks for the suggestions. See if I can't get a few token focused games going today as I'm happy to lose Felidar Guardian and Restoration Angel and move away from the blink focus I am thinking.

ShieldOfHolyShadows on Arms Race (Boros Aikido)

1 year ago

king-saproling I've looked at a lot of those cards before but some of them are new! I think the shell is highly flexible and can support most things, but I am curious behind the reasoning on trimming most of the pillowfort and a handful of the rattlesnake cards.

Ill-Tempered Loner  Flip is great but frankly I can't be bothered to track Day/Night when I'm playing in paper.

Bloodthirsty Blade is solid and I have playtested it before, but my experience was that people were generally annoyed to see it, and because it was so cheap, there was no reason for me to not be using it constantly.

Truefire Captain was in there for a long time, but I needed space and it's one of my least favorite versions of the effect. 4 cmc, difficult casting cost, mediocre blocker, encourages aggression. So I trimmed it out for the ones I like slightly more, though I could be persuaded to readd the 3ish versions of the card that I don't run.

Ancient Gold Dragon would definitely be a powerhouse, but it's not really on theme for the deck. It's highly synergistic with Ganax, but Ganax is just in the deck because he's a red commander with Choose a Background and has flying. Gold Dragon is aggressive and highly threatening, which goes against the design goal for the list.

Death Kiss is fun, but I haven't tested it yet. Only concerns are the CMC and tracking the combat math.

For Life of the Party, I have some friends who love this card, but they play it in more of a blink deck where it can really shine. I don't know if I have enough support for it, but maybe I should give it a shot and see what happens.

Crown of Doom is super on-theme, but I've always found it to be relatively low-impact. +2 attack isn't a huge buff, and there's no guarantee it's on the person you need to be attacking.

Curse of the stalked Prey hits on similar issues with Crown of Doom, but I personally don't want to be using curses in the first place. You never know who they need to be on until much later on in the game. Like, imagine you curse someone and it turns out that player 3 is the real threat this game. You're rewarding people for attacking the wrong person, and encouraging them to avoid the real threat.

Skyboon Evangelist is fascinating; it reminds me of Frontier Warmonger. The reason I trimmed Warmonger was just that people never took advantage of the effect, it was just something I kept having to remind them of. I'm definitely going to have to think about this card though; I haven't seen it before.

Thanks for the feedback!

king-saproling on Arms Race (Boros Aikido)

1 year ago

This is a really cool deck. I love the intent and the list looks great. Personally I would make these swaps:

Windborn Muse -> Ill-Tempered Loner  Flip
Ghostly Prison -> Bloodthirsty Blade
Boon-Bringer Valkyrie -> Truefire Captain
Baneslayer Angel -> Ancient Gold Dragon (cool synergy with Ganax!)
Sunblade Angel -> Death Kiss
Lyra Dawnbringer -> Life of the Party
Gisela, the Broken Blade -> Crown of Doom
Brave the Sands -> Curse of Stalked Prey
Crawlspace -> Skyboon Evangelist

Ultigame21 on Ur-Dragon's Multiverse Onslaught | *PRIMER*

1 year ago

First of all, I love your deck choices!

But I believe that Ancient Gold Dragon would be a very good card to add even if he doesn't have haste. First of all he’s a 7/10 good blocker for the turn he comes in unlike Ancient Copper Dragon (6/5) but I understand that it’s slow if you don’t have a way to give him haste. Love Copper Dragon treasures thought <3

Imagine having Dragon Tempest /Scourge of Valkas /Terror of the Peaks out when up to 20 x blue faerie dragons enters the battlefield. The amount of damage each trigger would do.

Also very good with all attack triggers or other cool dragons you have in the deck (Dromoka, the Eternal, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Old Gnawbone, Silumgar, the Drifting Death,Utvara Hellkite, Wrathful Red Dragon, Defiant Thundermaw  Flip).

You could also potentially draw up to 20 cards if Kindred Discovery or Greater Good is on the battlefield. Puts a good number of counters on Dragon's Hoard also.

I’d love to hear your opinion on why you didn’t include him in your list with all the good synergies!

I think I would probably have to switch Balefire Dragon for Ancient Gold Dragon. Most big problematic creatures have more than 6 toughness so Balefire doesn’t get rid of them it’s only good against Tokens stacking strategies early on. I’d rather get many blockers each turn recurring and like explained you only need 1 of those 3 pieces (Dragon Tempest/Scourge of Valkas/Terror of the Peaks) to do almost the same effect as Balefire but targeting anything.

jameswarlord on [KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

1 year ago

Azoth2099 I've never tried Moxfield! I pre-emptively imported the deck in there (www.moxfield.com/decks/_LTrrj5RfUKsBLkk0pXm4g) just in case but no idea how to go about co-brewing it :)

For a list of cards I wouldn't really like to part with from playing as I enjoy them quite a lot and always play I made this little list:

Azoth2099 on [KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

1 year ago

I feel like lhetrick13 is already aware, but I should clarify incase jameswarlord doesn't know:

Dragon Tempest triggers for every Dragon that Ancient Gold Dragon generates. For example, if you roll...let's middleground and say you rolled a 10, with AGD being the only other Dragon you control.

That would be 11 damage 10 times in a row, 110 damage to spread across your opponents. If you roll a 12 or higher all of your opponents are dead if they're at 40 life, which they probably are not! A perfect example of why wording is so, so vital in this game...If the card would have said "Whenever one OR MORE Dragons", it wouldn't be good enough to consider over even something as simple as Mass Hysteria as a Haste enabler.

Also, I agree that the Hoarding Broodlord + Saw in Half combo is probably not worth running outside of Aristocrat/Reanimator strategies for sure. Whichever strategy enables the most 1-card wincons is imho the optimal route, though. If you're trying to max out on power, anyway...

lhetrick13 on [KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

1 year ago

Azoth2099 - I do love the Ancient Gold Dragon + Dragon Tempest synergy as that can easily one-shot an opponent but my justification for dropping it is that Ancient Gold Dragon is really the only card it has good synergy with due to the general lack of dragons. You are right that the Haste enable for his flyers is nice, especially if you have the ability to trigger multiple combats with cards like Aurelia, the Warleader letting you drop multiple dragons/angels/demons to the field in a single turn and hit with the previous combats drops. However, Aurelia, the Warleader is the only card being run that triggers multiple combats so in my opinion, it is an inefficient addition to the deck as it currently is constructed. You are right that depending on what way the deck is refined, Dragon Tempest could become crucial piece though!

I was unaware of the Hoarding Broodlord + Saw in Half combo but that has merit! Especially in a more aristocrat themed deck where cards like Burnt Offering would already be present so you would not have to cut something good to make room. Sometimes 99 cards is so hard to trim a commander deck down to! I will have to experiment with that so thank you!

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