Creature — Sliver
All Slivers are colorless.
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|Time Spiral (TSP)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Ghostflame Sliver Discussion
2 weeks ago
Always happy to see another Sliver deck i've yet to come across. It's a shame that your playgroup tends to single you out due to Sliver Hate™: "When you sit down at a table consider yourself playing Archenemy, and you don't get the silly cards to help. Usually everyone just blasts the slivers and then continues the game." Sliver decks tend to be politically weak - as in some playgroups they are perceived to be a threat starting at turn 0.
My advice to combat Sliver Hate™ is to have a turn 0 talk before every game, which is structured as "1. Hi i'm bringing
Now, moving on to your deck proper - interesting choice in choosing The First Sliver as your commander, but I think you can do so much better in terms of building around it. First things first - I know running ALL the keywords is cool, but unfortunately it hurts the consistency of your deck, putting you in more situations where you just don't have the interaction or options necessary to succeed. Yes, you need to cut some creatures. How many? I recommend between 15 and 13. Here are some suggestions (just to name a few):
- Acidic Sliver: Sacing a creature let alone a Sliver to deal a paltry 2 damage is laughable at best. This sliver will not create any meaningful impact unless you have an infinite creature combo going. It's not worth the inclusion.
- Constricting Sliver: The high CMC for an Oblivion Ring-esque effect for all Slivers you control is neat - the problem however is just getting to that 6 mana. You could be casting your commander, or at the very least multiple Slivers onto the battlefield. CMC for temporary removal at best isn't good enough.
- Diffusion Sliver: This is commander. If someone wanted to pay an extra 2 to get rid of a troublesome sliver - they could do it without even thinking twice. This Sliver is designed to work in a format where you could have multiple copies on the field that would stack this effect. It doesn't work in a singleton format. Cut it.
- Frenzy Sliver: Refer to my comments on Diffusion Sliver.
- Fury Sliver: The CMC is far to high for the effect. Run Bonescythe Sliver instead.
- Ghostflame Sliver: A cute effect. Only relevant if you are running Slivdrazi Monstrosity as your commander or you are running All Is Dust - or ideally both. Unfortunately you are running neither so this Sliver does literally nothing to advance your boardstate. Cut it.
- Groundshaker Sliver: The CMC is too high for the effect. Run Horned Sliver.
- Leeching Sliver: Refer to my comments on Diffusion Sliver.
- Lymph Sliver: Refer to my comments on Diffusion Sliver.
- Megantic Sliver: This Sliver is only relevant if you have a deck that focuses primarily on Combat Damage as a wincon. This one i'm honestly a bit iffy on cutting as it is a decent sliver. Just not a Great sliver in my opinion. For such a high CMC, i'd want a sliver to be downright game changing when it hits the board. This one just feels kinda..."Meh".
- Mesmeric Sliver: Refer to my comments on Diffusion Sliver.
- Poultice Sliver: This is honestly just a bad design. You don't need this Sliver. Get Sedge Sliver instead.
- Mindlash Sliver: Paying mana to activate the ability, sacrificing a sliver, and you also have to discard a card as well? Terrible. Terrible design. I don't think this Sliver ever worked outside of it's draft format.
- Screeching Sliver: Milling a player in EDH is hard. Milling a whole table? Even harder. Since mill isn't a primary theme within your deck - i'd recommend you'd cut this. It's just not contrubuting to anything.
- Victual Sliver: This Sliver isn't really doing much. It just isn't. I'd run Hibernation Sliver instead. That sliver makes your Slivers nigh impossible to deal with as when your opponents cast targeted removal you can just go "return to hand" and play the creature on your next turn.
- Vampiric Sliver: This is just a bad Sliver by design. I get that it's a reference to Sengir Vampire - which is cool and all. But by today's standards that mechanic is trash.
- Virulent Sliver: Ah, the ol' Poison counter sliver. Refer to my comments on Diffusion Sliver.
1 month ago
Question - outside of it's interaction with All Is Dust, why are you running Ghostflame Sliver? Personally, I always thought that while this interaction is neat it's so niche that you'll rarely ever get the play off. What's your success rate? I encourage you to take another look at Ghostflame Sliver, as i'd cut it (along with All Is Dust).
4 months ago
The biggest fix you can make to this deck is with the lands. You have too many lands that enter tapped (tri lands, vivid lands, etc.) or set your mana back a turn (lairs). Consider adding more rainbow lands (lands that produce all colours), such as Mana Confluence .
Ghostflame Sliver does not really seem to do much for you, other than be something the three-mana slivers can cascade into.
4 months ago
Flavor aside, I think you should cut the big Eldrazi (aside from card: It That Betrays, and maybe Spawnsire of Ulamog ) and focus instead on going wide with Eldrazi/Sliver tokens to take advantage of the fact that the Slivdrazi only gives out one Annihilator 1 per person. If so, token makers to consider: Sliver Hive , Birthing Boughs , Pawn of Ulamog , Sifter of Skulls , Hanweir, the Writhing Township 's components (Garrison is pretty useless but Battlements is decent since you want to attack for Annihilator), From Beyond , Growth Spasm
Also Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest to take advantage of sac triggers alongside of "It..."
Maybe Ghostflame Sliver for devoid redundancy
7 months ago
Sedge Sliver works quite well with Prismatic Omen and I had it there until the last update. It works supposedly well since it also pumps, so it serves two purposes. Not that the pump is that significant but... Crypt Sliver is a big no. I'm planing on getting Crystalline Sliver out asap. I looked at it but the targeting is a bit of a pain.
Crib Swap is a nice card indeed. Shame it can't be unearthed.
7 months ago
I personally would vote for both. Sedge Sliver does have a bit of a drawback in that you only have 7 lands that can tap for black (and be used to pay for abilities), but with Manaweft Sliver , Gemhide Sliver , and Chromatic Lantern it does shore that weakness up a bit. I play in a pretty sweeper-heavy meta, so I run a lot of regenerate/protective effects. Crypt Sliver is also pretty good, though it does non-bo with Crystalline Sliver , so might not be a great fit in a deck where you can get global shroud out and online pretty quickly.
Ghostflame Sliver plays well with All Is Dust if you wanted a sweeper of your own, and you can fetch Crib Swap with Sliver Overlord for instant speed exile removal. That and if you've got the extra mana you can just steal the changeling yourself!
8 months ago
10 months ago
thanks for the upvote man. Ugin, the Spirit Dragon and Ghostflame Sliver are new ones to the deck this week, which causes problems when you do a one sided exile wrath lol. Also, Jokulhaups with mana producer slivers and Sliver Hivelord tends to make the old scoop phase happen if it resolves. You are so far ahead on mana if this puppy pops that its pretty much insurmountable.