As an additional cost to cast Abandon Hope, discard X cards.
Look at target opponent's hand and choose X cards from it. That player discards those cards.
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Abandon Hope Discussion
5 months ago
Here's some recommendations for cheap/casual reanimator from my experience building/playing these kinds of decks with friends:
- More efficient reanimation mechanisms. Gravewaker has a really steep cost for what it does, I'd run 1 maximum. Cards like Apprentice Necromancer and/or Doomed Necromancer are cheap alternatives that let you reanimate much sooner.
- Self mill and/or discard outlets. Need to get your fatties into the graveyard before you can reanimate them. Morgue Thrull and Necromancer's Assistant are good for self-mill and can block to buy time. Something like Abandon Hope might be fun for discard + disrupting their hand.
- Look for "enters the battlefield" triggers on your reanimation targets. Dread Cacodemon doesn't make the best target since it only triggers when cast from hand. Something like Myr Battlesphere is a fun reanimation target with 'gains haste/sac at end of turn' type reanimation spells since it's 4 direct damage, swings for 8, and leaves behind behind 4 1/1s (also a great reason to play Dread Return , a super busted reanimation spell that is banned in modern and only costs a little over a dollar!). Or maybe Sundering Titan to kill a ton of lands. Both are also easy to cast late game being colorless.
- Consider being more heavily black, and have more of a balance between counterspells and removal. If you are primarily concerned about creatures and are in black, removal is far more flexible than counter spells. There's tons of 2 mana black removal spells, many cost about a dollar for a playset of 4, ( Doom Blade , Ultimate Price , Walk the Plank , and Victim of Night all come to mind). I'd also advise against highly specific counters like Annul , as they have a good probability of being dead cards.
1 year ago
Little note about -costed cards with Void Winnower's ability. -costed cards are one of two situations where a card's converted mana cost can change (the other being split cards). In most zones, does equal zero, as you've stated, but there is one exception. While on the stack, is equal to the amount of mana paid for the purpose of calculating converted mana cost.
This issue is specifically addressed in Void Winnower's Gatherer rulings.
Here is a list of all odd-costed cards. With 9,178 odd-costed cards in the game, the list isn't going to be helpful. You should just run Gatherer searches as normal, then add "CMC of 1, OR 3, OR 5, . . . etc.".
1 year ago
Target Minotaur is banned
Abandon Hope isn't that good - hurts you more than opponent
Bend or Break hurts you as well - sure you want to destroy your own lands?
Replace Hijack with Insurrection
Onyx Goblet isn't good enough (1 damage is lame)
Nice job with Whip of Erebos
Replace Accelerate with Fervor
Check out Akroma's Memorial
I like Dark Deal - also put in Reforge the Soul and Wheel of Fortune
Check out cards like Door of Destinies, Obelisk of Urd, Vanquisher's Banner, etc
Add Rogue's Passage
You're playing black, find some cards to bring back all cards from your graveyard (like Rise of the Dark Realms)
Add the disk, as well as some anti board wipe cards
You need some double strike and multiple combat phases! Blood Mist and Savage Beating are some examples, there are better ones out there though
Overall good job though, looking like a mean deck
2 years ago
How is the deck playing for you? Ive always found discard to be hard to build around in EDH unless you were making use of the wheels on the bus and Nekusar, the Mindrazer. Hypnotic Specter, Liliana's Caress, Abandon Hope, Banshee of the Dread Choir, and Hymn to Tourach all seem like solid includes for your deck. There are many, upon many black cards with the discard theme, these are just the ones that stood out to me on a quick search.
3 years ago
Anthem of Rakdos, Cutthroat il-Dal, Infernal Tutor, Jagged Poppet, Rakdos Pit Dragon, Twinstrike, Rakdos Augermage, Rakdos Guildmage, Rakdos Ringleader, Absorb Vis, Abandon Hope, Abyssal Nocturnus, Amok, Avaricious Dragon, Avatar of Discord, Banshee of the Dread Choir, Behold the Beyond, Bola Warrior, Bottomless Pit, Burning Inquiry, Cabal Conditioning, Cabal Shrine, Creeping Dread
3 years ago
I'm just getting back into magic myself, so I'm not sure of what guidelines Modern decks have to follow. However, here are some nice cards for your strategy that you may want to consider: Distress, Geth's Grimoire, Liliana's Caress, Mind Warp, and Abandon Hope
Also adding the combo of Anvil of Bogardan and Library of Leng is very nice, because it constantly allows you to look at two cards, keep your favorite and put the other back on top of your library. Plus, Anvil of Bogardan forces them to discard every turn.
As far as what I don't like about your deck: Black Vise seems pretty useless since you're trying to make them discard. I don't really see the point of Browbeat or Gitaxian Probe, but perhaps you can explain them to me. Mind Slash also doesn't seem like a great option since you don't have many creatures. Plus the abilities of the creatures you do have are probably worth more than playing Mind Slash... So, a good card, but an easy cut.
3 years ago
well, Neighbor, i normally just save my removal for those small fliers. I have regenerating creatures so defend against ground creatures. In terms of how to avoid them in the game, just getting the hand to zero asap will be your best bet against this. After looking at your deck, I noticed two things: 1) you have too much discard. you should have more versatile discard options. Funeral Charm should be a 4x, and things like Augur of Skulls can be an endless blocker and discard. since you are on a budget, that really limits your options in terms of 8-rack. there really is just a fixed list that works. other variants will really not be as good. 2) if you are playing legacy, you should play cards that are legal only in legacy, such as Abandon Hope, since thats just OP. if not, then just make it in modern.