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Skull Fracture Discussion
6 months ago
MontaukMonster - as the person designing the proposed cards, the onus is on you to defend their creation. You are the one opening up your cards for critique, after all. It is not enough to just say "because I can," particularly given the abnormal nature of these proposed cards. You also really need to work on your tone--as has been mentioned already, you're coming off very aggressive, and that's not fair to those who took the time to respond.
In the interest of discussion, however, I will offer what you have yet been reluctant to do--a defense of your core concept. Personally, I agree with what others have said--that planeswalkers need to be limited in scope, but I want to move the conversation past the discussion of the core concept so we can address the actual cards themselves.
- What is the justification for the game design, and the creation of common planeswalkers?
As of right now, Pauper does not have access to any planeswalkers. This proposal would give pauper access to additional cards, as well as make planeswalker-matters cards that are currently at uncommon viable options in pauper, expanding the card pool and increasing diversity.
- What is the lore justification for common planeswalkers?
The issue here is that Planeswalkers are, by definition, legendary. After all, only a minuscule number of people have a spark, and only a fraction of those have their spark ignited.
The justification here is that someone has figured out how to artificially create the ability to planeswalk (akin to the Planar Bridge or Weatherlight, but embedded in a creature). However, this is a temporary situation, and burns out the person's body (hence why they only have minus abilities).
- Creature types on Planeswalkers
These are just generic individuals who have an artificial spark; they are not great heroes. We've already seen tribal cards, such as instants and enchantments, which show there can be some mix-ups between creature subtypes and others.
I think a better option would be to come up with a single planeswalker type that could apply to all of these, and then flavour them through the art. Something like "Planeswalker - Ensparked" that captures the essence of what you're trying to do, without getting into the messy situation of adding creature types.
- Non-humans as planeswalkers.
Boza's point is invalid. In addition to Bolas, Ugin, and Karn, there's Ashiok, Tibalt, Kiora, Sorin, Angrath, Dovin Baan, Ajani Goldmane, Ob Nixilis, Mowu (sort of), Nahiri, Vraska, Kaya, Nissa, and so many more. So, that's not really an issue.
- Multiple creature types
I think that covers a lot of the basics, and at least gets us to the point where we can address the individual cards.
Pyrenisian Druid - this card is costed too aggressively. It's the same cost as Rampant Growth, for effectively the same effect, but repeatable twice.
I think a fair price would be . This is the same CMC as Cultivate , accounting for the fact you can get multiple lands, with the additional green added to offset any potential planeswalker synergies, such as proliferate or The Chain Veil .
Disciple of Raojan - this is a very powerful effect, as it's basically Shock with rebound. That card already exists in the form of Staggershock , and is costed three. Basing this on Staggershock , I think sounds reasonable.
I might also consider reducing this to "target player or planeswalker" to further limit its utility and make it more reasonable as a common.
I might reduce the starting loyalty to two, and change the mana cost to (so far, I think they're all pretty consistent at the 1XX level, provided the loyalties are adjusted accordingly). I would consider bumping this up to , due to the card being at common, depending on the removal situation in the hypothetical set.
One, with the potential for three, +1/+1 counters should probably cost more than . Again, I think you can probably get away with , and even keep the loyalty at 3.
Norina's Apprentice - five loyalty is way, way too high for this effect. That's a whole lot of cards it could potentially draw. To keep with the theme I have been using, I think 2 or 3 loyalty would be appropriate for that cost. Leaning toward 2 to make this more palatable as a common.
Moving on to the creatures:
Elvish Mulchkeeper - while Green can draw cards, it's usually in conjuction with lands ( Abundant Growth ), creature power ( Abzan Beastmaster ), or a combat trick ( Aggressive Urge ). It's a pretty big bend of the colour pie to have this type of card draw on a Green creature.
The repeatable shuffling your library is also not ideal--shuffling takes time and is not fun for anyone, and there are enough ways to untap creatures that you could have multiple shuffles in a single turn. That's a nightmare to play with or against.
You could probably do something a bit more green. : Reveal the top card of your library. If it is a land you may put it in your hand."
Counters are players are a bit annoying to keep track of, but there is precedent for it. White also has the ability to search for basic Plains, so, while it's a bit of a bend, it's on the acceptable side.
It's hard to evaluate this card in a vacuum, as I don't know how easy it would be to get service counters. I kind of like the concept, in that it's a decent card at any point in the game.
Scaletian Dreadbeast - the proper language is "Spend only mana produces by basic lands to cast Scaletian Dreadbeast." (Source: Imperiosaur I think this might be too aggressively costed and could be either a 4/2 or one mana more, just to avoid a Tarmogoyf situation, but I think you could probably get away with this in a non-standard set.
Drow Ascendant - As others mentioned, Regenerate has fallen out of use because it was not an intuitive mechanic (removing the creature from combat does not follow from the word itself; replacement effects trip up players; etc.).
This is an extremely problematic card though. Turn 4, Drow Ascendant into a turn 5 Fatal Push for a blood counter, then Damnation with regenerate/indestructible means you can keep this from being wrathed and then swing for a huge amount of damage.
I would probably leave it with the firebreathing and ping ability.
Gleeful Pyre - Nope. There is no reason for this card to exist. Functionally, it's the same as "You may have four copies of Gleeful Pyre and four copies of Lightning Strike in your deck." There might be some use for it in Standard, but standard usually has enough two mana burn spells floating about that I don't see the first ability as ever being all that relevant.
Book of knowledge - the language should read:
[mana cost], tap: Search target player's library for a card and exile it face down. Then that player shuffles their library. (source Praetor's Grasp
Then, as a separate static ability:
You may look at and play cards exiled with Book of Knowledge.
1 year ago
Seems like a fun deck! A few cards to ramp it up a notch (and keep it budget)
Consult the Necrosages Just good utility for the deck
Mindstab That delayed discard can be really rough
Probe for late game silliness
1 year ago
What seems most important here is to cheat a Griselbrand, Kokusho, or Crawler into play as soon as possible without playing a straight reanimator deck. We know Legacy reanimator decks can go off on turn 1 or 2, so how do we do that on a budget? I'm not sure, but here's an idea:
Start with 0-drop creatures; say 4 Ornithopter and 4 Memnite or, even better, 4 Phyrexian Walker and 4 Shield Sphere. Add some targeted discard spells that you can use on yourself, including Raven's Crime. Aim for a turn 1 that goes something like this:
- Play a swamp.
- Play a 0-drop creature.
- Play a dark ritual.
- Play a 1-drop discard spell, targeting yourself, and pitch a big critter.
- Use the other 2 B mana to play something like Animate Dead or Soul Exchange, sacrificing the 0-drop to return the big creature into play.
You try to jam this on the play and wait a turn or two until your opponent taps out on the draw, knowing that competitive blue match-ups will suck.
What do you think? I think you could re-tool your sorceries and some of your creatures to get the 0-drops and a few 1-of big critters in (like Platinum Emperion or Massacre Wurm or Grave Titan) that help you buy time and eat removal. A Gurmag Angler would be dope here, as well. I wouldn't sweat the Ghast mana/extort if you go for budget reanimator. Ghast and Artist are the creatures I'd cut.
- Animate Dead
- Soul Exchange
- Platinum Emperion
- Massacre Wurm
- Grave Titan
- Gurmag Angler
- Tortured Existence (pitch a big critter, bring back a 0-drop, play it, repeat step 3 above).
- Skull Fracture
- Restless Dreams
- Raven's Crime
- Mind Peel
- Cabal Therapy
- Cry of Contrition
- Funeral Charm
- Phyrexian Walker
- Shield Sphere
I kind of like the idea of an unknown reanimator list. If you want to stick the current game plan, I'd play Disfigure and Dismember over Go for the Throat. Maybe sideboard it along with Doom Blade for big-mana match-ups and Darkblast which you could use on your upkeep and again after dredge/draw to snipe a Delver or Deathrite Shaman.
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