Creature — Vampire
Hexproof (This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
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|Guilds of Ravnica (GRN)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Nightveil Predator Discussion
2 months ago
So, you're deck is a bit confused right now. Decks with cards like Gray Merchant of Asphodel want as many black mana symbols as possible, which leads those decks to generally by mono black. Bond of Revival works with really big creatures like Demon of Loathing, but your deck isn't set up to quickly get one into the grave so you can use it. So I think you have a few options.
Turn into a mono black devotion deck. These decks run cards like Gray Merchant, Ayara, First of Locthwain, and Cauldron Familiar to drain your opponent's life one or two points at a time. There's a current list in this article, but you obviously can customize: https://articles.starcitygames.com/videos/core-set-2021-standard-round-2/
Turn this into a control deck with a revival finish. I'd recommend a different finisher (Massacre Wurm has impact immediately on board and does damage, Pursued Whale protects itself and makes combat awkward for your opponent, play around with this one), but something that has immediate impact on board and/or can protect itself is generally best bet. You could even run Drakuseth, Maw of Flame since you're never going to cast it. I'd recommend either the mill route with cards like Mire Triton or the discard route with more Thirst for Meaning. Here's a version to get the idea: https://mtgazone.com/deck/dimir-reanimator-by-brewers-kitchen-standard-artisan/
Make this full on Dimir control. You'll remove a lot of the creatures in favor of planeswalkers like more Narsets or Ashiok, Nightmare Muse, more removal spells like Eliminate or Heartless Act, and win conditions like Lochmere Serpent or Nightveil Predator. This deck can potentially get very expensive (they generally run at least 1 Ugin, which is $35 by itself), but you can switch out those cards for lower power cards and still do decent at a local level. Here's an example: https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/dimir-control-decklist-by-peter-joensson-1009881
You can obviously customize as much as you want. Additionally, I wouldn't spend a bunch of money right now. Rotation is in September, so you don't want to spend $16 on a Liliana, Dreadhorde General and only get to play it for 2 months. Finally, I'll leave a couple of resources I give to anyone just starting out.
If you need some clarification on how to build control vs. midrange vs. combo, vs. aggro: https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/articles/magic-the-gathering-has-three-major-archetypes-aggro-combo-and-control/
After you decide on a deck type, there's a lot of ways to go, but it's hard to give much other advice without knowing that.
3 months ago
Uuuh, what is the goal with this deck? Constantly chaining together equal CMC cards over and over won't really tutor anything, and a graveyard strategy would seem pretty hard in PDH. Speaking of which, you have several illegal cards in this list: Aura of Dominion, Pemmin's Aura, Baleful Strix, Nightveil Predator, Nightveil Specter, Siren of the Silent Song, Lightning Greaves, and Swiftfoot Boots.
4 months ago
Hey, nice budget upgrade of the precon.
You should avoid the mentality of thinking the manabase will come later. Sure, more expensive land upgrades could come later, but you still want to configure the manabase to reflect the rest of your deck. That's not something you can leave for later. The manabase is one of the worst parts of the precon and you haven't changed it to reflect the upgrades you've made.
The upgrades you've made are good, but they don't help much if you don't also change the precon manabase. Predator Ooze while a good card with Otrimi is not worth playing so many Forests. That's the reason for the high number of Forests compared to all other basic lands in the precon to satisfy one card which is not good deck building by Wizards. Ooze is the only card in the precon and in your upgrades therefore it's not worth hurting your ability to cast Otrimi who needs to cast turn four or sooner.
Priority should be to able to cast Otrimi since he's the Commander who can do Commander damage with and that's your best chance of winning. There's many other creatures than Ooze that have much easier mana costs to mutate too. I would cut Ooze until you can consistently cast it while also being able to consistently cast Otrimi. 11x Forest does not give you consistency of casting Otrimi which is more important than casting Ooze. Nightveil Predator is also not worth it while it may be a good creature to mutate too the casting cost is not realistic with the manabase.
You want a close to equal ratio of each color which comes from basic lands and from dual lands. Until you can upgrade the manabase with more expensive dual lands then use a closer to equal amount of basic lands. More Forests then the rest is fine since a Forest helps to cast early game mana dorks and land ramp spells which can then help to color fix for blue and black, but 11x Forest is way too much. Adding a Farseek and Zagoth Triome, Farseek can search for a Triome, would help with ramp and color fixing in one.
Some budget lands to consider adding:
Jarad's Orders lets you tutor for two creatures; put one into your hand and the other into your graveyard. It can tutor for a creature to mutate to and put a mutate creature into your graveyard to recur with Otrimi. Final Parting also does this except the two cards you get can be any cards. Neoform is sac a creature you control to tutor for a creature with one more CMC and put that creature onto the battlefield. It's powerful for a two drop and less than $1. Of course you don't want to sac a mutate creature because then all the creatures are put into your graveyard, but sacing a creature to upgrade the creature before you mutate could be a strong play.
Vivien, Champion of the Wilds lets you mutate at instant speed with flash. With vigilance she also makes the mutated creature able to attack and then also block on opponents turns. Her last ability can be repeatable way to potentially find a creature to cast. She interacts well with Vivien, Monsters' Advocate who've you've added since then you can cast the creature cards you see on top of your library at instant speed.
Crystal Shard is another repeatable bounce effect for the mutated creature. Having more of this effect is helpful to save the entire mutate pile from removal especially removal that exiles or lets you change the first creature that's mutated.
Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
Is this the new "go-to" list?
I usually play cEDH and Pauper and wanted combine both things now.
My goal is to build some high level pEDH decks, using the higher tier pEDH Commanders, but now some of those aren't listed up anymore. What about...
Also, any informations about the pdh homebase website?
ps. Why Elvish Mystic ?
7 months ago
Okaaay, now that I've had a chance to think about things and take a look around I've got some more thoughts. Somehow I managed to forget the new Ashiok, Ashiok, Nightmare Muse, who's a definite bae if you go in for that sort of thing. Thought Erasure is great disruption spell and four copies would really not be too many! Mission Briefing could be an interesting one-of that acts as another copy of whatever you need, and at the very worst would give you Surveil 2. Considering how deep you're going on said mechanic you might want a pair of Enhanced Surveillances - did serious work for me at the set pre-release and gets exponentially better if you jump on the Creeping Chill/Narcomoeba train! There's also good interaction with Syr Konrad, the Grim who will drain your opponent when you surveil your own creatures, make your opponent discard theirs and when you activate the second part of Enhanced Surveillance. Nightveil Predator is cool but mana intensive, so honestly I think you're better going one further in Doom Whisperer or Konrad. Connive / Concoct is a beefy surveil card but probably better for the sideboard along with the other two copies of Deadly Visit and Unexplained Disappearance (plus maybe Doomfall?). Almost at the end now, but I'd add Drowned Catacombs to strengthen the mana base and perhaps some of the Eldraine land cycle, and even a single Arguel's Blood Fast Flip considering you've mentioned how low your life gets!
7 months ago
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I need to revise a few things and see if anything from Eldraine or Beyond Death fits the deck. I havn't modded it since before those two sets. It may not even change. I'm working on that after Dragonsoul. I do need to update my muticolored decks with Arcane Signets. But I have not added them because I only have (1) at the moment and I like to keep my decks consistent with what I have built on paper. Research my Nightveil deck. You may like it. There are others on here too that you can use to mold one to your play style.
9 months ago
You don't really include a win condition other than 3 copies of a hard to cast Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger . I would suggest looking into cards like Underworld Dreams , Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted , or Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage as a way to deal damage to your opponent in this discard theme.
Running around 10-12 instances of Surveil is probably going to be consistent enough to trigger Disinformation Campaign . If going this route, I'd cut your copies of Agonizing Remorse and even Mission Briefing to include more removal/threats. You're pretty clogged up in the 2/3 CMC slots, and extending your curve into 4/5 range would be beneficial to make your later stages of the game more impactful. Cards like Enter the God-Eternals , Nightveil Predator , and Lochmere Serpent are good budget options. Not sure if the splash for Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger is even needed, seeing as it is kinda the black sheep in this deck as is.
After your opponent has no cards in hand, your discard effects end up being useless spells. Whether it is non-creatures like Underworld Dreams , Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted , and Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage , or creatures like Nightveil Predator , and Lochmere Serpent , making sure you have more threats to actually win the game is going to be crucial.
Hope this helps!
9 months ago
Nice deck, I've been trying to figure out how to get Soulflayer to work in Modern since it's popular in Pioneer right now.
I noticed your lands are jund colored only, would you consider adjusting them to make Nightveil Predator hard castable? Or is it not worth it?