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Lotus Petal
Artifact
, Sacrifice this: Add one mana of any colour.
tobi89 on
BEASTORM copy
2 days ago
Ok, I added the Selesnya Sanctuary. I thought that I can make mana of multiple color from the Metamorphosis, which is not the case. I also added Ephemerate as an protection spell, and as this is almost never a dead card I am running two main board. Also the Crumbling Vestige works with Sanctuary and Arboreal Grazer pretty well for producing red in the big turn. I think it´s better than Lotus Petal, because it stays on the board afterwards. When i kept a hand with the petal before I had some draw elf on board one turn earlier, but I was struggeling with mana afterwards more often than not.
I am still not sold on Nylea's Forerunner in the main board as it is one more card that I really don´t want to see in my opening hand And there is not that many decks in current meta that would have many blockers and are pushing so aggresivelly. Maybe I need to loose some games to this and will change my mind :-D
Balaam__ on
Not So Versatile Graveyard
5 days ago
How is it you’re running two copies of Vampiric Tutor, 3x Demonic Tutor and 4x Lotus Petal in Vintage?
capwner on Competitive card Draw in Mono …
1 week ago
Phyrexian Arena and Greed are classic card draw, Insatiable Avarice is decent and I am a big fan of Increasing Ambition though it is a little slower. Peer into the Abyss also slower but basically ad naus #2...these effects are typically paired with a lot of fast mana like Chrome Mox Lotus Petal Mox Opal etc. which are cheap and explosive after casting Ad Nauseam <-- this card usually takes some build around. IDK if that's better here vs. Skullclamp which provides repeatable card draw for cheap. If you have a lot of life loss effects, Sheoldred, the Apocalypse is a good hedge which fits your beatdown strat and hates on opposing card draw. Maybe also Phyrexian Altar and Ashnod's Altar to juice those rat tokens.
Polaris on How do I cast spells?
2 weeks ago
1: Yes. Per rules 601.2 f, g, and h, you determine the cost to cast the spell, then activate any mana abilities you need to pay the costs, then pay the cost from 601.2f to cast the spell. You can wait to sacrifice Lotus Petal until after the cost for Thoughtcast is locked in at .
2: Yes. Moving the card to the stack is the first step in proposing to cast a spell (rule 602.1a). If the casting is determined to be invalid this will be taken back, but a spell has already left your hand by the time you discard cards or similar to pay the cost to cast it. You do not discard your Yawgmoth's Bargain to Lion's Eye Diamond when using the Diamond to pay the casting cost.
SaberTech on
Dissident Storm
2 months ago
Hi. I saw your post asking for some feedback. I have a few suggestions I could offer but I was hoping to start with a question first.
Do you want this to specifically be an optimized storm deck, or an optimized Kess deck for bracket 4?
I think that the list is currently stuck trying to decide what it wants to be. You have a bunch of potential Storm finishers in the deck but you don't have much in the way of mana generation engines and wheel effects to refill your hand and keep the spellcasting train going. Cost reducing effects are less useful to storm than being able to generate a bunch of colored mana is.
The deck's strongest win condition is the Brain Freeze + Underworld Breach + Lotus Petal combo that lets you mill your deck and then cast Thassa's Oracle from the graveyard for the win, but you are missing Demonic Consultation to also pair with the Oracle and you're lacking a bunch of tutors to help you find your combo pieces quickly. If you go in on focusing on the combo aspect of the deck, then you won't really need the Storm stuff to help you win. You can just run a bunch of control cards and tutors.
So, which direction would you be happiest to see the deck go?
legendofa on Does a format with just …
3 months ago
Close to optimized deck, same combo as the last one. Buried In Silver II
Also, do online-only sets count? In particular, Lotus Petal is the only uncommon print.
DreadKhan on
Meren Sacrifice Shenanigans
4 months ago
I see that you are taking a pretty different angle than I did here, but there might be a few cards that I can suggest from my own Meren and the Golgari Queens. Would Savra, Queen of the Golgari make sense in your list? It's a slightly different Grave Pact, but at 4 mana and easy to cast she can come out earlier, the life gain is a lot less important other than offsetting the payment for the effect.
I think they're about as fun as an untreatable toothache, but Grave Pact effects in my experience like you to run several of the Merciless Executioner type creatures that exist, Accursed Marauder is a great start, but I think Plaguecrafter and Demon's Disciple might fit. I don't know exactly how many you'd 'want', but I'd run 3-5 creatures that exist almost purely to make everyone sacrifice a creature. IMHO if you only run one or the other the Executioners are probably the better include since you can get them out sooner, they stand alone (Grave Pact does nothing if you don't have a creature), and you can recur them with your Commander, but both are INCREDIBLY nasty when combined. In the decks I have that use edicts you really want to reach 'critical mass', so that you both have access to an Edict when it's necessary, but also have enough to continuously pare back the opponent's board.
This is a personal preference more than anything, but when I play Meren my fondest hope is usually to have a creature that ramps me that also kills itself; Sakura Tribe Elder is the 'gold standard' of the effect, but I think you could benefit from Diligent Farmhand and Dawntreader Elk, and maybe Yavimaya Granger. I even run Fertilid and Burnished Hart, but I don't think I'd recommend them to anyone else at this point! Anyways, the idea is you juggle one of these to both gain XP for Meren while ramping yourself, and when you draw something better to reanimate just reanimate that. The ramp is usually very useful to cast either Protean Hulk or Razaketh.
Speaking of Razaketh, I found it VERY useful to have mass untap effect to go with Life/Death, once Life/Death makes all your lands into weenies you can untap them with something like Vitalize or Benefactor's Draught. I also threw in a Songs of the Damned and Dark Ritual to help generate mana when I'm short. Lotus Petal is also a very good Razaketh card if you don't want to spring for Lion's Eye Diamond.
Just a little tip I stumbled upon, most Meren decks have very high Black devotion, but they rely heavily on early Green ramp; I really wanted to shave lands for creatures in my list, but since I can find Swamps with Forests via ramp, I ended up running WAY less Black sources than Green. I used 7 Basic Swamps and 2 Swamp/Forest duals, and I find I have very few fixing issues, even with a very low land count, since I almost never need more than 2 lands early on, and I found the deck absolutely hated drawing into them (Meren is a deck where I feel like you're supposed to run all the creature ramp you can, because Meren cares so much about Creatures and so little about non-creature spells, lands are dead draws).
I guess that brings me to the last point, I feel like you should really try to get more creatures into this list; your Commander does absolutely nothing if you don't have creatures in the graveyard. I have 57 in the 99 atm, I feel like having less than 40 in a Meren deck is too few. The nice thing about creatures is that Golgari has a LOT of creature synergies, I love using Lurking Predators or Heartwood Storyteller.
If you want more specific help feel free to ask!
legendofa on
“A White Pebble”
6 months ago
To cut the cost, my first thought is to just add more Lotus Petals. Move it from Vintage to Legacy, and change the Moxen and Lotus to more Petals and maybe Birds of Paradise. The other big outlier is the Savannah, and my switch there would be Razorverge Thicket.
Further cost cutting would be the tutors. Eladamri's Call is probably okay, and Altar of Bone can step in for one of the more expensive options.
After that, it gets tough, and the core of the deck would start changing. Anyway, that's where I would look if you want to make this more accessible.
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