Avatar of Woe

Creature — Avatar

If there are ten or more creature cards total in all graveyards, this spell costs {6} less to cast.

Fear (This creature can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or black creatures.)

{T}: Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated.

Combos

• Avatar of Woe + Thornbite Staff

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Big Apple Highlander	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

Exit777 on Please, let me touch YOU - Phage

1 month ago

Touching people is fun! :)

Als Vorschläge hätte ich vor allem das Deck ein bisschen "schlanker" zu machen. Avatar of Woe und Choice of Damnations aber im Regelfall echt weit weg. Peer into the Abyss kann zwar entweder jemand rausnehmen oder dir viele Karten ziehen aber hat das gleiche Problem wie Phage dass man erstmal dahin kommen muss. SElbes gilt für Profane Transfusion.

Und dann fehlt vielleicht natürlich Stunning Reversal, Nachteil ist dass es dich auf 1 setzt statt wie Lich's Mirror auf 20. Ich würde vielleicht die beiden trotzdem tauschen, weil Stunning Reversal als instant auch noch gut mit Lich's Mastery harmoniert, kauft dir also auf gewisse Art 2 nicht-sterben-Effekte für 1. Das Problem der geringen Lebenspunkte könntest du vielleicht eher mit Deathtouchern angehen, die auch Lifelink haben - Vampire Nighthawk, Qarsi Revenant, NIghthawk Scavenger. Die eignen sich dann auch gut um als backup wincon z.B. ein Vorpal Sword zu tragen, falls Phage aus irgendeinem Grund nicht mehr zum Zug kommt.

Decree of Pain und In Garruk's Wake würd ich auch durch was billigeres ersetzen, bspw. Extinction Event, einfach um besser ins late game zu kommen.

ldvatwa on Volrath: No School, like Old School

1 year ago

I love that you run all the old versions of these great cards. I remember pulling those versions of Avatar of Woe, Mutilate, and Phyrexian Reclamation out of packs. Good times!

griffstick on Indulgent Tormentor or Visara the …

1 year ago

Ok, I've used all of those cards befor and the problem with them is

• Indulgent Tormentor, it's just a bad card, if it was 4 mana to cast I'd say yea it's just another version of Loyal Subordinate and you can run it. With giving your opponents 3 options it's bad.

• Visara the Dreadful, the cost to cast this at 6 mana is really one of the biggest problems with this card. Secondly, because it doesn't have haste, you'll have to wait a turn to use it. It's tap ability to destroy is really what's the best part of the card but because it's a tap ability you can't attack with the flying 5/5. That also applies to Avatar of Woe. Although Dread doesn't do anything that you can see (like Ghostly Prison). It seems like it's a bad card. But it's not. It hits for 6 with fear. And protection from the crack back.

In my honest opinion, you'd be better off running Royal Assassin in place of Visara the Dreadful or WOE. And running Ophiomancer in place of Dread.

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Indulgent Tormentor or Visara the …

1 year ago

I'd like to enter Avatar of Woe into the topic.

RockIV on (HELP) monoblack removal casual need …

3 years ago

New Version of the Deck Rocks Monoblack creature removal

Changed the Deck. tried to get it cheaper and more optimal. Some cards end up in the sideboard/maybeboard: For example the Dark Ritual end didnt make the final version. I actually dont like the desicion but it might be the best. Their mission was to help me to cast the Black Sun's Zenith ( i only put two of them, maybe its just very little, maybe there have to be 4 o 3 at least) and the Phyrexian Obliterator.i knew that i was going to add more lands to the deck ( i have 22 now, maybe 1 more?), also i add the Phyrexian Arena, and in addition to the Skeletal Scrying there are 5 cards that help me to draw, so i thought that will make the Rituals not that usefull. i may be wrong. I also add some cheap creatues like the Nantuko Shade, i perefer them instead of the Vampire Nighthawk and the Geralf's Messenger. Maybe the nantuko arent the best option, but they are cheaper and they can pump up. I still need to think about that. i added the Avatar of Woe because i always like it. But i have only one, it may never appear. Maybe another land or another Nantuko Shade would be better. i added Lashwrithe because of the number of swamps i was going to have. I love Unmake but i didnt put it, because i wanted to leave the deck as cheap as possible. added Tendrils of Corruption. so i have : 22 Lands, 5 cards that help me to Draw, 4 Discard, 18 removal, 14 creatures ( 3 of them are equipments too).

So whats the opinion now about the deck? any improvement?

Thx to everyon that read this :D

RockIV on

3 years ago

Changed the Deck. tied to get if cheap and more optimal. Some card end up in the sideboard/maybeboard: For example the Dark Ritual end didnt make the final version. I actually dont like the desicion but it might be best. Their mission was to help me to cast the Black Sun's Zenith ( i only put two of them, maybe its just very little, maybe there have to be 4 o 3 at least) and the Phyrexian Obliterator.i knew that i was going to add more lands to the deck ( i have 22 now, maybe 1 more?), also i add the Phyrexian Arena, and in addition to the Skeletal Scrying there are 5 cards that help me to draw, so i thought that will make the Rituals not that usefull. i may be wrong. I also add some cheap creatues like the Nantuko Shade, i perefer them instead of the Vampire Nighthawk and the Geralf's Messenger. Maybe the nantuko arent the best option, but they are cheaper and they can pump up. I still need to think about that. i added the Avatar of Woe because i always like it. But i have only one, it may never appear. Maybe another land or another Nantuko Shade would be better. i added Lashwrithe because of the number of swamps i was going to have. I love Unmake but i didnt put it, because i wanted to leave the deck as cheap as possible. added Tendrils of Corruption. so i have : 22 Lands, 5 cards that help me to Draw, 4 Discard, 18 removal, 14 creatures ( 3 of them are equipments too).

So whats the opinion now about the deck? any improvement?

Thx to everyon that read this :D

amarthaler on EDH Rakdos Group Slug

3 years ago

Update!

Out: Avatar of Woe and Sulfuric Vortex

In: Kaervek the Merciless and Battle Strain

As much as I love the art by rk post on Avatar of Woe, it was a dead card in my hand far too often. We'll pull Kaervek back off the bench and give him another go. Sulfuric Vortex has turned off my own life gain just as much as my opponents, maybe more, haha. My buddy found Battle Strain in his bulk cards and suggested I try it out.

LeonSpires on How to Lose Friends and Alienate People

3 years ago

The best way to make cuts is to look over the deck list and consider what serves a purpose (ramp / card draw / interaction) and what works with the theme of the deck and what doesn't. Create a list of cards that don't server a purpose or fit the theme of the deck and figure out what to cut / add.

If more cuts are needed look through the list starting at the highest converted mana cost and working towards the lowest. For each card ask yourself “does this card make a big enough impact for the amount of mana spent to cast it.”

Play the deck for awhile and periodically reevaluate what cards work in the deck and what cards don't.

Personally I would suggest cutting Avatar of Woe, Oona, Queen of the Fae, Extract from Darkness, Illicit Shipment, Notion Thief, Jaxis, the Troublemaker, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, Whispersilk Cloak, Maestros Ascendancy, and Spark Harvest.

Having taken a closer look at your deck I would suggest adding Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds for color fixing and extra triggers on Hedron Crab and Ruin Crab. Also Infernal Grasp, Profane Tutor, and Scheming Symmetry (mill what the opponent tutors).

Mill enables graveyard based decks. Having a few answers like Ashiok, Dream Render and Bojuka Bog is useful.