EternalBrewmaster Brewmaster

EDH player, nearly have one deck in every color combination possible. Only Jund remains unfinished, and Selesnya and Dimir need to be rebuilt from scratch. I am constantly rebuilding my decks and am never really satisfied with them.

The Case for the Best Card Draw Color in EDH NOT Being Blue

I typically build my EDH decks according to the EDH Law of Perfect Squares. That is, 36 lands, 64 non-lands. One of the non-lands is obviously the commander and some of the 64 cards need to be mana ramp/acceleration. This method stands up in the modern-mulligan environment after the rules change of 2016 where partial Paris mulligans were taken away as long as the deck is still built well.

I would like to make the case for best card draw color in EDH. This is often mentioned offhand and it always bothers me for some reason. People seem to assume that it is blue because blue is the best at drawing cards in all the other formats, but I think it is a solid third best in EDH. What are the best cards in EDH in blue for drawing? Consecrated Sphinx, Rhystic Study, Azami, Arcanis, Recurring Insight, and X spells right? Those either require your opponents to draw, not pay for a tax or for you to have an abundance of wizards or mana to dump into an X spell. They are not efficient or capable of massive draws or abusable cantrips to fuel big turns except for combo with Azami or Arcanis maybe.

By contrast, green, which is far and away the best card draw color in EDH, has stuff like Momentous Fall, Shamanic Revelation, Collective Unconscious, Greater Good, Inspiring Call, Soul of the Harvest, Garruk's Packleader, Regal Force, Life's Legacy, Soul's Majesty, the enchantress shell cantrippers like Argothian Enchantress, Enchantress' Presence, Verduran Enchantress, not to mention all the ways to tutor in green for the creature you need right now to just draw a bunch of cards. The reason that these options are better than blue in EDH is because they reward you for the strategy you're already playing in green. Are you playing big dudes and a lot of them, or at least a lot of dudes? Yes, you are because you're playing green, and that's what these draw spells reward you for. You can drop an Avenger of Zendikar and then next turn cast shamanic revelation and draw 8+ cards probably for 5 mana and still have at least 3+ mana open probably, and that is worst case scenario. This strategy is superior to blue also in that unlike Consecrated Sphinx or Rhystic Study, it doesn't paint a huge target on your head. Nobody is going to say, "Oh he/she has an AoZ, they're gonna draw a ton of cards!"

The second best color for card draw, and really it's hard to say which is better, is black. It has Necropotence, Dark Prophecy, Grim Haruspex, Harvester of Souls, Kothophed, Decree of Pain, Skullclamp (I know it's not black, but it is played in probably 100% of black decks and since black decks most efficiently sac their own dudes, black decks abuse this card the best), Disciple of Bolas, Phyrexian Arena, Dark Confidant, all of the instants and sorceries that say lose life and draw cards (e.g. sanguimancy, Necrologia, and Skeletal Scrying) and my new favorite, Infernal Tribute, or even Phyrexian Etchings. The reason most of these are superior is because again they abuse the strategy you're already doing in black very efficiently. Black is abusing the graveyard and these say draw cards when you do that, or pay life to draw cards (and probably gain it back because there's plenty of lifegain in black).

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DECK WIN STATS a/o 14 March 2017

  1. Alesha, Who Smiles at Death: Plays: 26 - Wins: 16

  2. Avacyn, Angel of Hope: Plays: 40 - Wins: 23

  3. Aurelia, the Warleader: Plays: 41 - Wins: 24

  4. Brago, King Eternal: Plays: 44 - Wins: 24

  5. Captain Sisay: Plays: Under Construction a/o 14 March 2017 - Wins: 0

  6. Derevi, Empyrial Tactician: Plays: 24 - Wins: 17

  7. Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief: Plays: 38 - Wins: 28

  8. Intet, the Dreamer: Plays: 14 - Wins: 6

  9. Karador, Ghost Chieftain: Plays: 25 - Wins: 18

  10. Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund: Plays: Under Construction a/o 14 March 2017 - Wins: 0

  11. Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker: Plays: 94 - Wins: 54

  12. Kozilek, Butcher of Truth: Plays: 53 - Wins: 35

  13. Marchesa, the Black Rose: Plays: 33 - Wins: 19

  14. The Mimeoplasm: Plays: 29 - Wins: 14

  15. Mistform Ultimus: Plays: 23 - Wins: 11

  16. Narset, Enlightened Master: Plays: 65 - Wins: 41

  17. Nath of the Gilt-Leaf: Plays: 27 - Wins: 17

  18. Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind: Plays: 21 - Wins: 9

  19. Omnath, Locus of Mana: Plays: 46 - Wins: 33

  20. Progenitus: Plays: 63 - Wins: 27

  21. Rakdos, Lord of Riots: Plays: 43 - Wins: 21

  22. Sen Triplets: Plays: 41 - Wins: 23

  23. Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir: Plays: 67 - Wins: 40

  24. Uril, the Miststalker: Plays: 74 - Wins: 41

  25. Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter: Plays: 105 - Wins: 65

  26. Vorel of the Hull Clade: Plays: 35 - Wins: 23

  27. Wort, the Raidmother: Plays: 91 - Wins: 58

  28. Wrexial, the Risen Deep: Plays: 12 - Wins: 6

PartyJ says... #1

It's just online for a longer period of time and has been altered many times since. Slowly this number keeps on climbing as time progresses.

Thnx for the genuine response. Sometimes I feel I get tunnel vision and a comment from the outside could clear the sky for me :))

April 16, 2017 5:03 p.m.

PartyJ it looks pretty brutal and as tuned as possible. Also, that's a truly staggering number of upvotes, I haven't been able to figure out how people get that many upvotes. My deck will be almost nothing like your deck as I'm going to design it for fun legendary stuff without any sort of Elesh Norn + Living Plane sort of evilness :) Also, I don't play colorless eldrazis in non-colorless decks (although it's possible I'll make an exception just for Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger just because he's the best removal imaginable). Also, I don't play mana rocks or any artifact mana in green decks typically. Yours is undeniably powerful and maximizing Captain Sisay though. Thanks for visiting my page.

April 16, 2017 4:14 p.m.

PartyJ says... #3

I see you have Captain Sisay under construction. Since I do believe you take things into serious consideration, I am very interested how you think of my build.

Got a favorite commander yourself?

Cheers,

PJ

April 16, 2017 3:18 p.m.

VietMoneys says... #4

Oh boy. That website is too scary for me, ha ha.

April 7, 2017 3:23 p.m.

VietMoneys if you meant for trading purposes, I use Puca Trade and this is my profile: https://pucatrade.com/profiles/show/47216

April 6, 2017 8:44 p.m.

Nah I just use TO.

April 6, 2017 3:39 p.m.

VietMoneys says... #7

Ahoy, Brewmaster. Do you have a deckbox?

April 6, 2017 12:40 p.m.

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April 23, 2017 10:17 a.m.

Said on Benko, Krob Moss...

#2

*Zada

April 22, 2017 9:32 a.m.

Said on Benko, Krob Moss...

#3

Lol no worries. By all means if you're intending it for 1v1 then it's def appropriate. I personally am not a fan of 1v1 so I'm not as experienced with the meta. But yeah Zara is probably the best monored general imo. Just imagine the insane card draw from something like Expedite when you have a decent gobo army.

April 21, 2017 8:31 p.m.

Said on Ghosts of the ......

#4

I appreciate you taking the time to share some advice. I'm very familiar with all of those cards and I hope you're able to recognize that I'm an experienced deck builder. I'm not looking for design changes really as this deck is what I want it to be. It has its own ways of doing all the things you suggested. Maybe read my personal page to understand where I'm coming from as a designer and player myself.

April 21, 2017 8:28 p.m.

Said on Benko, Krob Moss...

#5

Build Zada, Hedron Grinder instead. Now that's an interesting and cool red deck that nobody builds because Magic players are boring basic bitches.

April 21, 2017 6:06 p.m.

Said on Benko, Krob Moss...

#6

All of that being said, your instants make me so erect I have to call the Viagra hotline. That's the sexiest package I've ever seen and it could probably get a room full of women pregnant just by looking at it. Probably also should add Battle Hymn for the random haste instant.

April 21, 2017 6:04 p.m.

Said on Benko, Krob Moss...

#7
  • Step 1: set it on fire
  • Step 2: Build a new deck that isn't this and is more original.

Non-sarcastiscally: I'm not a fan of solved decks or really obvious archetypes that are popular or often played. I tend to react negatively to people pulling them out at all when we play. You may have genuinely come up with all of this deck on your own, after all I know you to be a creative deck builder and have a lot of respect for you, but this deck is 99% the same as every other optimized Krenko deck, and 100% BS broken as balls. It's perfect and also exactly the wrong thing to do in EDH. It's linear and predictable; it has no plan B or subtlety and it paints a huge target on you.

If you were just asking if I thought it's good then yes, it is ridiculously good.

April 21, 2017 6:02 p.m.

No they're a podcast of a couple guys in Cali and one in England. I enjoy their show a lot and they have a really great pattern community that I'm a part of. So we are gonna just EDH party it up. Probably jump in some side events at the GP too. I've never met them in person before.

April 20, 2017 9:35 p.m.

Yeah I'm rooming with the guys who do the Commanderin podcast and hopefully playing EDH for four solid days. Vietnam sounds awesome too though! Makes me hungry for pho just thinking about it. I've never been to Asia, but I really want to explore all over someday. Do you have family there?

April 20, 2017 7:07 p.m.

This is officially my favorite deck description ever. Never change buddy. Any chance you're going to GP Vegas?

April 20, 2017 4:59 p.m.

Said on Unforgivable...

#11

I gotchu fam. I love the strategy you have already of generally unplayable enchantments. Infernal Tribute and Faith Healer would be two other great sac outlets for you too.

April 18, 2017 10:35 p.m.

Said on Unforgivable...

#12

Probably start with 93 more cards, some of which should be Sun Titan, Replenish, Leyline of the Void, Open the Vaults, Teferi's Realm, Teferi's Moat, Standstill maybe. Lands would be solid too, although Scrubland might just get you there every time. :P

April 18, 2017 5:32 p.m.

Yeah...none of those cards are very well represented in the mega-meta (the national US meta). Also, don't tutor for combo pieces, that's boring and shitty.

April 17, 2017 10:41 p.m.

Argeaux how do people in your meta do that at instant speed? Are you using Vampiric Tutor at times other than the opponent's end step before your turn or on your upkeep? If so then you may just need to change your own playing of the card.

April 17, 2017 4:20 p.m.

Said on PartyJ...

#15

How can i get that awesome globe thing?

April 16, 2017 7:12 p.m.

Said on EternalBrewmaster...

#16

PartyJ it looks pretty brutal and as tuned as possible. Also, that's a truly staggering number of upvotes, I haven't been able to figure out how people get that many upvotes. My deck will be almost nothing like your deck as I'm going to design it for fun legendary stuff without any sort of Elesh Norn + Living Plane sort of evilness :) Also, I don't play colorless eldrazis in non-colorless decks (although it's possible I'll make an exception just for Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger just because he's the best removal imaginable). Also, I don't play mana rocks or any artifact mana in green decks typically. Yours is undeniably powerful and maximizing Captain Sisay though. Thanks for visiting my page.

April 16, 2017 4:14 p.m.

Said on Night of the ......

#17

No it's not that. It's just not for me but it looks fun. I think for it to be my kind of deck we just need more W and U cards that go in it.

April 13, 2017 8:50 p.m.

Said on Night of the ......

#18

I'm sure you'll enjoy playing it :)

April 13, 2017 7:48 p.m.

Said on Night of the ......

#19

Also, needs more Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. Also also, cut that Blue Sun's Zenith bs. That card is garbage and I'll fight anyone who disagrees. You have so many better options in black: Grim Haruspex, Dark Prophecy, Infernal Tribute for god's sake, Necropotence if you're a wanker, ffs Mentor of the Meek does work in a deck shitting out 2/2 zombies. Also, get rid of Rhystic Study for essentially the same reason. Don't play staples just because they're staples. Find ways to get those effects that synergize with your decks' strategies. It'll make your decks feel and play more uniquely which is doubly rewarding in that it is satisfying to have created something special, and it's less predictable and interruptible because you keep your opponents' off balance. Everyone is expecting Rhystic Study, nobody is expecting Phyrexian Etchings, or to have it Donated to them after you used it for 10 turns...

April 12, 2017 8:10 p.m.

Said on Night of the ......

#20

I love the idea and what you have going on here. Ertai is a fantastic choice too, too bad he's not a zombie even though he looks like one. My one suggestion would be that you should try to fit in more blue and white stuff. I don't like building decks with splashes of colors typically, with a few exceptions. But the point is, you can build a better zombie deck that is straight , so what makes this one unique? Play fewer of the hardcore monoblack zombies and big black spells and mix it up with some cards that you can only play in a deck like this. I'm sure more options will come out in the next two sets, but do you get what I mean? An esper deck should be an opportunity to play esper cards and all three guilds it encompasses; don't just build the same tired zombies deck with a splash of the other colors; make this the new hotness, and reinvent what zombies can be. Also, just tag me on here if you want me to look at a list. I literally check Tapped Out every day.

April 12, 2017 8:04 p.m.

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