EternalBrewmaster Brewmaster

EDH player, nearly have one deck in every color combination possible. Only Jund remains unfinished, and Selesnya and Dimir need to be rebuilt from scratch. I am constantly rebuilding my decks and am never really satisfied with them.
If you're considering suggesting what seems like a really obvious omission for my decks, please don't. If it's not in there, it's not because I'm unaware of it or can't afford it, it's because I set myself deck building restrictions so that my decks feel unique and innovative. When I build a deck I do lengthy Gatherer searches of multiple search terms and comb the entire canon of MtG for the cards I want. I don't ever use EDH.rec, even though it's a great sight for beginners, and I try to avoid decks being full of staples. Ask instead why I chose not to include something and I'll tell you, because every card that made the cut has a reason and every card that didn't had a reason too.

I typically build my EDH decks according to the EDH Law of Perfect Squares. That is, 36 lands, 64 non-lands. One of the non-lands is obviously the commander and some of the 64 cards need to be mana ramp/acceleration. This method stands up in the modern-mulligan environment after the rules change of 2016 where partial Paris mulligans were taken away as long as the deck is still built well.

I would like to make the case for best card draw color in EDH. This is often mentioned offhand and it always bothers me for some reason. People seem to assume that it is blue because blue is the best at drawing cards in all the other formats, but I think it is a solid third best in EDH. What are the best cards in EDH in blue for drawing? Consecrated Sphinx, Rhystic Study, Azami, Lady of Scrolls, Arcanis the Omnipotent, Recurring Insight, and X spells right? Those either require your opponents to draw, not pay for a tax or for you to have an abundance of wizards or mana to dump into an X spell. They are not efficient or capable of massive draws or abusable cantrips to fuel big turns except for combo with Azami or Arcanis maybe.

By contrast, green, which is far and away the best card draw color in EDH, has stuff like Momentous Fall , Shamanic Revelation, Collective Unconscious , Greater Good, Inspiring Call, Soul of the Harvest, Garruk's Packleader , Regal Force, Life's Legacy, Soul's Majesty , Rishkar's Expertise , the enchantress shell cantrippers like Argothian Enchantress, enchantress' presence , Verduran Enchantress, not to mention all the ways to tutor in green for the creature you need right now to just draw a bunch of cards. The reason that these options are better than blue in EDH is because they reward you for the strategy you're already playing in green. Are you playing big dudes and a lot of them, or at least a lot of dudes? Yes, you are because you're playing green, and that's what these draw spells reward you for. You can drop an Avenger of Zendikar and then next turn cast Shamanic Revelation and draw 8+ cards probably for 5 mana and still have at least 3+ mana open probably, and that is worst case scenario. This strategy is superior to blue also in that unlike Consecrated Sphinx or Rhystic Study, it doesn't paint a huge target on your head. Nobody is going to say, "Oh he/she has an AoZ, they're gonna draw a ton of cards!"

The second best color for card draw, and really it's hard to say which is better (this or green), is black. It has Necropotence, Dark Prophecy, Grim Haruspex, Harvester of Souls, Kothophed, Soul Hoarder , Decree of Pain, Skullclamp (I know it's not black, but it is played in probably 100% of black decks and since black decks most efficiently sac their own dudes, black decks abuse this card the best), Disciple of Bolas, Phyrexian Arena, Dark Confidant , all of the instants and sorceries that say lose life and draw cards (e.g. Sanguimancy , Necrologia, and Skeletal Scrying ) and my new favorite, Infernal Tribute , or even Phyrexian Etchings . The reason most of these are superior is because again they abuse the strategy you're already doing in black very efficiently. Black is abusing the graveyard and these say draw cards when you do that, or pay life to draw cards (and probably gain it back because there's plenty of lifegain in black).

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Suns_Champion says... #1

Hi Eternal! I'm looking for some advice for my EDH deck, Bad Luck Brion and was wondering if you could help out by critiquing it!

I know your huge into EDH and you've helped me out before so I just thought I'd ask! Thanks a ton!

August 8, 2017 10:20 a.m.

Lilbrudder says... #2

Congrats on #1. I remember when I had one of those lol. So I am going to be back in Vandlia for work come this fall. I will stop by on my way home for some monday night magic if you dont mind. Its time to break out no combo etb themed SBT reanimator. It was a brutal deck back in the day and it needs some love. It just grinds value and turns sideways

August 3, 2017 10 p.m.
July 29, 2017 12:39 a.m.

Epochalyptik I haven't checked with any titans, unless that's a typo and you meant gurus, but like wheel of fortune set printings all have the right price but not the promo. Same with gaea's cradle.

July 27, 2017 10:46 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #5

Interesting. Is it only for those two groups of cards? E.g., if you switch between the core set printings of different Titans, the price is accurate, but the promo versions are all wrong?

yeaGO would be better able to figure out/explain what all is involved in the price system.

July 27, 2017 10:36 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #6

I think the prices are pulled automatically from a third party source rather than manually curated. I don't know how often they refresh.

July 27, 2017 10 p.m.

DarkNeko97 For all code on tapped out you appear to need a line break between each command. Do you have an empty line between the two commands in your description? Not just an indent, but essentially a double indent. Otherwise TO's HTML seems to read it as a single command and drop the later command altogether. Also, there is some variance from machine to machine and between macs and PCs with how the code works in tapped out. Hope that helps.

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July 24, 2017 1:09 p.m.

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Said on Join the Herd...

#1

This deck gives me life. Thank you.

August 20, 2017 6 a.m.

Why are people upvoting a precon? This stymies me.

August 19, 2017 6:57 p.m.

I actually considered that exact combo, which you can do with any number of other creatures too as long as you have Ashes of the Fallen, but I cut bitter ordeal because I can just do it with gonti and he's also good not as part of an infinite combo. Thanks for the cool suggestion!

August 19, 2017 2:03 p.m.

Ha thanks so much OneShoeCharlie! Let me know how it goes. In my playtesting I've realized that there are a ton of decision-points that make piloting it especially difficult. Also, Stranglehold would just wreck this deck lol. I'm contemplating putting Oblivion Stone and Perilous Vault in to deal with opposing strategies that hose the deck.

August 19, 2017 1:02 p.m.

Thanks LevahnTaupe and OneShoeCharlie! Appreciate the feedback and upvote!

August 19, 2017 10:34 a.m.

Said on Eternal Burn...

#6

Oh thanks for that! I got a lot of notifications at once and lost some of them in the confusion. Best of luck with the deck.

August 18, 2017 12:33 p.m.

Said on Eternal Burn...

#7

It feels to me like you have too many competing aims in this deck. You really have to either focus on creatures being your source of damage or spells. A lot of your spells are just going to kill your creatures which is why it's important to keep the creature count low unless you're playing Akroma's Memorial. Also the giant with the kicker cost is not legal in a monored deck. Neheb shines brightest in a deck that can take multiple combats but you only have a couple ways to do that and Combat Celebrant is extremely fragile, which is why I removed him from my deck. Also, you have way too few lands and probably too little card draw. Just because Neheb makes a boatload of mana doesn't mean you can play fewer lands. You still need to get up to five mana in the first place and once he's out and you're making huge amounts of mana you need a way to keep drawing tons of cards. Hope this helps.

August 18, 2017 7:51 a.m.

Said on This is What ......

#8

Crazy in a good way hopefully? If you like it I'd appreciate an upvote. I'll take a look.

August 18, 2017 7:42 a.m.

Said on You shall be ......

#9

This deck and theme are great. Love all the work you out into the description too. The only changes I would make would be for personal taste like Sorin Markov, who I don't like to play with or against. But as far as the deck goes in general, I think you're good.

August 16, 2017 1:45 p.m.

Thanks n0bunga and LVL_666! It takes a little work to actually make all the creatures knights in this deck haha and they're typically only going to be knights when they're dead, but it's a really fun deck so far.

August 16, 2017 1:29 p.m.

I'm more than happy for you to use my deck as a framework! It's an honor to be an inspiration to other players, in fact. Extraplanar Lens is definitely worth it, even without the Snow-covered Swamps, and it's in my sideboard. I just put this beauty together in the last couple days and am testing it right now. With all of the tutors I haven't had much difficulty getting what I need when I need it and the Korlash combo is my non-traditional form of ramp. As I play some actual games and find out how the deck is paced against other real decks I'll probably shoe-horn more ramp in. Crypt Ghast and Nirkana Revenant are both sweet ramp too. I'm personally just not a fan of Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Bond as the combo is really unsatisfying to me and if you play one of them, people who know the cards will hard-focus you right away. Necropotence definitely isn't too slow, as I'm not trying to win especially fast. I just wanted to try different methods of card draw for this deck, and most importantly there's a hefty self-discard theme in this deck that Necropotence specifically shits on. I have to discard Haakon just to play him, so if I play Necro my entire strategy is hosed. Thanks a ton for the +1! Please share the deck with your friends.

August 15, 2017 3:57 p.m.

Hunter's Insight doesn't strictly do the same thing as Souls Majesty but in many cases it'll be close and more mana efficient. Also if you happen to take multiple combats it's kind of nuts.

August 15, 2017 7:25 a.m.

Said on hoardofnotions...

#14

Also, if you're interested in really cool EDH decks, my 3 newest decks that I'm working on are all really unconventional and innovative. You might enjoy them.

August 14, 2017 11:57 p.m.

Ha that's fine, I'm glad somebody is enjoying them. I do too haha, that's why I build so many. And I really love Deathrite in the deck because he's situational graveyard hate in addition to being a mana dork. I also just have Noble Hierarch because I had some from years ago and wanted to use them. It's most important that the mana dorks produce green mana anyways. I haven't had too many problems with it where I needed one of the 2 colors it can't make. The exalted has occasionally been relevant, and it definitely is with Progenitus since it means he only has to attack twice instead of three times.

August 14, 2017 11:52 p.m.

Said on Benko, Krob Moss...

#16

Garbage Fire is a real card buddy, and I would play it in every deck if I could. I agree that the deck is probably as good as it needs to be without any of the new tech, except for Heirloom Blade which would just be really sweet, especially with all your Goblin sac outlets.

August 14, 2017 11:48 p.m.

Spinerock Knoll is just sort of win more, typically if I've done 7 damage to an opponent, I'm doing a ton of damage and winning. Also, I really want to keep as many basics as possible in this deck for the ramp cards. Speaking of which, since the deck's core plan is to use instants and sorceries for big benefits, that's where I want to focus my ramp, not so much on mana dorks. I just realized that this deck needs to be seriously updated on here because Burning Wish is in the deck and Blasphemous Act is in the wishboard, especially for the Vigor combo. Explore is a great card and has consistently been in the 5-10 cards that I would like to have in the deck but their are usually just better options. Thanks for taking the time to make suggestions and discuss it with me. If you like the deck, I'd appreciate the upvotes!

August 14, 2017 11:46 p.m.

The expertise is just strictly better than Soul's Majesty in a couple ways but if I always replace cards in all my decks with the new copies then a lot of old cards, some of which are nostalgic for me, will never get played anymore.

I'm aware of the combo with baloths and stone-seeder but for some reason I've never liked baloths so I don't run it in any decks. Thanks for the suggestion though, it is a good one.

August 14, 2017 6:57 p.m.

Thanks for your kind words eLLIPSIS666! Yeah all the decks I'm brewing right now are on the theme of commanders or archetypes that people mostly write-off as unplayable. My newest deck Haakon, the Mountain that Rides is the most obvious iteration of this theme.

August 14, 2017 5:53 p.m.

Said on Benko, Krob Moss...

#20

Lol Kranking. Disrupt Decorum , kindred charge , and Heirloom Blade all seem sweet for this deck.

August 14, 2017 3:47 p.m.

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