EDH Licia, Gladii, Sanguis, Valeria Victrix

Commander / EDH Bou

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Changed the title —Sept. 6, 2017

After all the changes made to the decklist, it felt like the title could also use some work.

I made up the old title really quickly and it has been bothering me ever since as it was such a lame.. not even a play on words really, that's just how bad it was.

So to better reflect the intentions of the deck, the new title now reads: Licia, gladii, sanguis, Valeria Victrix.... It's Latin because of Licia's Romanesque heritage and reads something along the lines of swords, blood, valiant and victorious. Either way, it feels better, might change it again later though.

Bou says... #2

That's actually not a bad Sorin! Haven't once managed to trigger ultimates on planeswalkers in my playgroup so I pretty much only look at the first two abilities haha. I feel he might work even better in an Edgar Markov token deck though. I'll put it in the maybe-board for now until I figure out what to cut. thanks :)

Edit: Okay so I didn't know but it seems Emblems can stack?! I definitely have to put this in then!

August 12, 2017 6:10 a.m.

ReignBeauxRida says... #3

What about all the Outlast creatures? They can buff her for her +1/+1 counters

August 12, 2017 3:21 p.m.

AkaAkuma says... #4

Hey looks good! I am thinking about starting a Licia EDH as well. Although i might take a soldier route instead of vampire.

What about Favor of the Mighty, Rest for the Weary or maybe Aetherflux Reservoir?

Also Sunspring Expedition and Ordeal of Heliod might be interesting but i'd rather keep playing Licia a surprise.

August 12, 2017 7:49 p.m.

Bou says... #5

@ReignBeauxRida: The Outlast creatures would be so much better if you could put a +1/+1 on other creatures, as it is now they only put them on themselves. Abzan Falconer and Mer-Ek Nightblade would be interesting though! The other effects we already have.

@AkaAkuma: Thanks! Soldiers are definitely a good option, I toyed with the idea as well. Favor of the Mighty seems good but you have to keep in mind that protection also means we can't enchant or target her, so we can't give her more counters, the equips still work because they don't have a color.

Rest for the Weary looks pretty good, but you'd ideally want it if they blow up Licia and you need to recast her.. Sunspring Expedition might be good as well for the same reason, just wait a little with sacrificing until you need it. I'm still piecing together the heal spells so I'll put this in the maybeboard :). Ordeal of Heliod on Licia wouldn't work that well..

The problem with lifegain spells is that you need them to help you cast Licia. If she's already there, extra life doesn't really matter because just fighting with her can get you pretty much 10 life a turn. Add in all the other tools we have and you can easily get 100 life. Aetherflux Reservoir at that point, would just be mean hahaha

August 13, 2017 8:25 a.m.

chiri says... #6

I think Serra Ascendant fits nicely here. Same with Archetype of Finality. Deathtouch and lifelink are a great combination.

August 13, 2017 10:22 a.m.

chiri says... #7

With all the Vampire tokens you're making, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet can be your man. Lifelink too!

August 13, 2017 10:24 a.m.

AkaAkuma says... #8

I agree Bou! Still i have to see how well Licia sustains our life. But Favor of the Mighty does not counter Licia's selfpumping ability? I've done quite some more brainstorming and came to the conclusion that Licia actually does not fit the tribal ideas so much, that is Edgar's game. To add to this I miss green haha. but still I want to make it work!

So even though Edgar would profit more from these, Anointed Procession, Coat of Arms and Shared Animosity would help our vampires. "Mynea frian, dark apostle", a card from the upcoming Ixalan expansion also helps with creating tokens. (I forgot about Kalitas! Thanks Chiri)

While not fitting the theme Martyr of Sands, Rhox Faithmender and as mentioned above Serra Ascendant would help throwing Licia out asap. I also might add a Paraselene.

To support Licia's pumping Sunbond, Rings of Brighthearth and Illusionist's Bracers would be good additions.

August 13, 2017 3:56 p.m.

Bou says... #9

Oh Akuma, You're right. Had a bit of a brainfart there but was under the impression you would have to target Licia - which you don't, so it's all good. Edgar Markov is really the Vampire tribal overlord yeah - I don't make that many tokens in this deck. Think it's just Bloodline Keeper and Sorin, Lord of Innistrad that have the potential. Mynea is a nice addition from Ixalan, now that I looked.. so is Sanguine Sacrament. And I thought waiting for C17 was bad :'(.

Chiri! deathtouch and lifelink are certainly formidable! especially when you have first strike too hehe. I'm not sure about adding Serra Ascendant, it's a great 1-drop that is basically a 6/6 always, but it being a monk bothers me a bit - this is just me being petty though! it's a great card. As for Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet.. not a fan of the Zombies. Yes you get them for free, and you can even sac them to make Kalitas stronger, and he's a 3/4 for 4 with lifelink. Tons of value and I should really be playing him.. but I won't, for now.

I was looking for Sunbond, should add more value to our lifegain spells as well.

August 14, 2017 2:51 a.m.

Bou says... #10

Showers are amazing, always get the best realizations.

I'm putting the Serra Ascendant in, it's a potential T3 Licia.

August 14, 2017 3:16 a.m.

GreatGoofini says... #11

If you want what is imo a better card than Favor of the Mighty, use Spectra Ward

August 14, 2017 6:13 a.m.

Qolorful says... #12

Unquestioned Authority is a pretty solid card for licia. Evasion that replaces itself is fantastic

August 14, 2017 8:16 a.m.

Bou says... #13

Spectra Ward is a little high on the curve, but it's one-sided and +2/+2.. hmm. Also very pretty.

Unquestioned Authority is perfect! guarantees a clean hit, totally on theme, and you even get a card. Might switch out my helmet for this.

August 14, 2017 8:24 a.m.

_Delta_ says... #14

August 16, 2017 1:55 p.m.

Treehugger003 says... #15

For the voltron theme have you considered adding a Sunforger package?

Late game card draw I am planning to use Erebos, God of the Dead. its indestructable, prevents lifegain for opponents and allows card draw.

Land Tax, and Sword of the Animist work well. I like how land tax can really thin your deck late game.

Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim is a bit harder and probably belongs with one of the other commanders but she has great utility. I used to use her as my commnader but she drew sooo much hate.

Tree

August 16, 2017 2:33 p.m.

Bou says... #16

I actually started off with a Sunforger but took it out as I kept cutting instants. I'm now considering adding more protection / finisher-copy cards like Reiterate, Reverberate, Wild Ricochet, maybe even Arcbond, so its not a bad idea to re-add the sunforger yeah! that would certainly help.

Big fan of the Sword of the Animist as well, and I've seen Land Tax explode often enough to know it's definitely worth it - I mention it in the "Ramp" section I typed up - but have been thinking lately about getting an older and slightly cheaper version. Erebos, God of the Dead and similarly Greed or Vampiric Rites are quite nice. What bothers me though is the relatively high mana cost for each draw, making it difficult to repeat each turn. I'm obviously okay with paying the life but I need the mana for my other spells. This is why Necropotence is so good, and why I'm considering Ad Nauseam and / or Moonlight Bargain. While these are single cast instants, 5 mana can get so many more cards than the ~ 2 cards Erebos could get you. Greed on the other hand would get you 5 cards so that's pretty much even with Moonlight Bargain. I guess it depends on whether you want the indestructible creature or the extra cards.

At the moment though I'm more or less satisfied with the ramp and would probably try to include the above mentioned red spells first as my group has begun playing a lot more removal lately and I need a way to protect my non-land permanents better. I might cut out some more creatures, but it's getting more and more difficult.

August 18, 2017 8:09 p.m. Edited.

chiri says... #17

Odric, Lunarch Marshal would be great for your combat steps. Giving your whole team relevant keyword abilities!

August 19, 2017 2:44 a.m.

Bou says... #18

Yeah that's why he's already in there! ;)

August 19, 2017 5:45 a.m.

Bou says... #19

Ever since adding Serra Ascendant I've been thinking about how horribly broken this can get if you would disregard the Vampire/Soldier theme... Vizkopa Guildmage's second ability, Rhox Faithmender, Mother of Runes, Kambal, Consul of Allocation to name just a few examples, I'm sure there are more. Seriously tempted to sneak the vizkopa in though!

I'm looking forward to this friday! I have pretty much everything prepared, but my playgroup wants to play with just the precons for a bit before we modify them.. so won't get to actually test my own brew just yet :'(.

August 22, 2017 5:26 p.m.

No one has mentioned Ivory Tower. This must change.

August 23, 2017 8:35 p.m.

chiri says... #21

As soon as I saw Licia though, I was fully convinced in a voltron deck. The vampire theme is cool but your general doesn't lend itself very well to tribal. Up to you though how much you want to stick with the theme! Just happy observing how you shape the deck out to be.

August 24, 2017 12:17 a.m.

CptCrumpet says... #22

Hey, brilliant list you've got here. Just curious to why you're a little low on the boardwipe side of things?

August 24, 2017 6:13 p.m.

Bou says... #23

@TheSpiritombEnthusiast: The Ivory Tower is fantastic yeah, but do you think I have enough draw to keep my hand properly filled for it? Draw's pretty much always been my weak point.

This would be very nice if I also added in a Land Tax actually.. hmm.

@CptCrumpet: thanks! I have a bit of spot removal for real pesky things, but I was considering Damnation and Wrath of God at first. I figured I could get away without wipes as long as I gained enough life and had enough unblockable/trample gimmicks to still deal damage - or just drain opponents directly. It might actually be a different story if I had more non-creature life gain as right now most of my gain comes from Lifelink, not so much through spells. So the way I thought about it, blowing up all creatures would probably set me back more than my opponents. Chandra's Ignition is different because even though it wipes the board, I do gain life from it.. whereas Fumigate for example would technically work as well but would potentially not give as much life. Killing Wave would be good though, especially with Exquisite Blood, but the 'problem' there is the X for mana.

Eh I guess the bottom line is I want my wipes to benefit me most, and I'm really picky haha.

August 25, 2017 4:41 a.m. Edited.

gman10 says... #24

Tragic Arrogance is a great boardwipe. It lets you keep your best stuff and your opponents get their worst.

August 25, 2017 8:24 a.m.

CptCrumpet says... #25

Bou: Thanks for the clarification. Now that I think about it, I guess it comes down to your meta (if it's more creature based or not). I think in the coming weeks while everyone is dipping their toe in tribal, boardwipes might be more useful than usual but I'm sure that's not the case for everyones playgroups.

Anyway, I look forward to hearing how this deck preforms for you. I've got my own Licia deck brewing and yours has given me a few ideas I wouldn't have thought of. Keep it up!

August 26, 2017 4:01 a.m.