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EDH Licia, Gladii, Sanguis, Valeria Victrix

Commander / EDH Aggro Casual Lifegain Multiplayer RBW (Mardu) Voltron

Bou

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Description

"Licia is an army general renowned for her ruthlessness in battle. She wields dual swords stained with the blood of countless victims, including the enchanted blood of an angel, whose feathers Licia wears in her helmet as a symbol of her supremacy"



When 'Vampiric Bloodlust' was just spoiled in the commander 2017 set there were three new Mardu Commanders you could build with.

You could use Edgar Markov, make a lot of Vampire tokens and do... stuff. There's also Mathas, Fiend Seeker, for when you like to hide behind politics and let other people do the dirty work. Or you could be a real man (or woman) and choose Licia, Sanguine Tribune as your champion!

At 8 CMC she's probably not going to be a popular commander, but don't let that high cost discourage you! We just need to gain some life, and Licia just happens to be very good at making people bleed.

So let's take their blood, their life, and all they have,

For victory!


Tactics

  1. Get some blood. Your own blood will do, but using your opponents blood is probably better.
  2. Offer that blood to Licia, and have her slap someone really hard.
  3. Repeat 1. and 2.

Enchantments

Dark Tutelage: Not a 'draw', but you do get an extra card. We can afford the life penalty easily due to the substantial lifegain and low CMC.

Greed: Have put this in for testing. I'm not completely sold because you have to pay each draw but having my Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth out should help. Will probably replace with Ad Nauseam if it doesn't work well.

Necropotence: This is your main draw engine, Use the life we get from our opponents to draw more cards.

Phyrexian Arena: Low cost card draw, every turn. Unlike Necropotence not much of a threat and often left alone, so you can usually keep it a few turns.

Sorceries

Ambition's Cost, Ancient Craving, Night's Whisper, Painful Truths and Sign in Blood: One-use only - offer blood for cards.

Wheel of Fate: Disruption for them, full hand for you. It has a suspend cost so you can set it and forget it. Although it's probably best you don't draw like your life depends on it (with e.g Necropotence) right before it resolves.. Reforge the Soulwould be nice as well as you could Tutor it with Vampiric Tutor and put it on top of your library, then miracle it for way cheaper.

I'm thinking of including Alhammarret's Archive, double life and double card draw which would work out amazing with the sorcery-based draw, not so much with the enchantments though.

Once you have Licia out and equipped, empowered, and ready to slap people, you'll need to find something to use all that extra life and mana for.

These spells will probably win you the game.

Chandra's Ignition: The only sorcery that needs Licia active and ready, depending on how strong you managed to get her, the lifegain will set you up for.. life.

Debt to the Deathless: I find it hard to decide between this and Exsanguinate. On the one hand, Debt looks cooler, and hits harder at mid-endgame - but Exsanguinate is more accessible in the early game. The easy option would be to have both, but when have things ever been easy eh >:(.

Artifacts

Elixir of Immortality: Aside from the fact that you get to shuffle this card and your graveyard back into your library.. Imagine you activate this in T4/5 for with / / leftover mana. Instant Licia!

Ivory Tower: A bit tricky as it has its most effect with a full(er) hand, but when we get our draw going it should really benefit us.

Venser's Journal: Just because you have cards in your hand, doesn't mean you have to play them. This is something I still struggle with as I play, because I like to "play" and usually end up with an empty hand. Obviously, don't use Wheel of Fate if you have too many cards in your hand.

Creatures

In order to get Licia out fast we need early cost-reducers. Spells help, but we need something that can consistently be useful at relatively low cost. that's where these minions come into play. They might not be perfect, but they're cheap and they get the job done.

Aerial Responder: A flying vigilant lifelink Soldier, pretty much a white Vampire Nighthawk.

Serra Ascendant: One of the earliest added creatures that moved me away from Vampires and Soldiers - but allows you to get a turn 3 Licia theoretically.

Vampire Nighthawk: Flying and deathtouch.. If I could have more of these, I would!

Vona, Butcher of Magan: A new Vampire from Ixalan! Vigilance, Lifelink, and we can use our life - which we should have plenty of - to destroy things! Wonderful!

Sorceries

While I've taken this one out, I felt it did deserve mention as the early game potential is huge;

Chaplain's Blessing: For just you get 5 life. This is basically a noncreature Serra's ascendant that can potentially get Licia out in Turn 4 and fuel her growth. Even if you draw it later in the game, it can still be used for fuel or will even help with Sunbond or Vizkopa Guildmage.

Ramp in / / ? yeah.. good luck. Not the easiest colors to ramp in, though I could spend $50 on a Land Tax (True, they can be cheaper, but those are the older ones and I don't like those :X ). However, there are tons of artifacts we can use. I made a small selection but you can definitely improve here. I'd love to run Mana Vault or Mana Crypt but they - like Land Tax - are too expensive at the moment.

Chromatic Lantern: Pretty darn good for multi-color set-ups, won't have to worry about color anymore and you get an extra mana.

Coalition Relic: Should help getting those colors early on. There isn't a lot of in this deck for example, so we don't play that many mountains, and you don't want to sit around waiting for a mountain you can't find, so having an artifact that makes colors should be good. Fellwar Stone could work as well but you can get more mana with this and less dependent on opponents.

Boros Signet, Orzhov Signet and Rakdos Signet: Filters colors and gives an extra mana. Signets are staples.

Land Tax: Yeah, I'm getting one after all! It's too good to be petty about it, so it's going to have to be an older one rather than the fancy looking Judge promo.

Pristine Talisman: 1 mana and 1 Life!, so this cuts Licia's cost by 2.

Sol Ring: Staple 1-drop for a reason, but I would be happier with colors.

Instants

Anguished Unmaking: Exile permanent, helps if they have indestructibles or when they Darksteel Mutation you. You do lose life but we have plenty anyway.

Crackling Doom: Drain everyone a little bit and have them offer up their strongest creatures. Perfect at any time really.

Mortify: While this doesn't Exile something of your choice but rather Destroys a creature or enchantment, We need more removal and Swords to Plowshares is not really an option if they have a 10/10 in the field for example.

Path to Exile: The only exile target creature we use, mostly for those pesky indestructibles.

Return to Dust: Whether in their turns or during your own main phase, this card is a must have to get rid of enchantments or artifacts.. but mostly enchantments (Looking at you Darksteel Mutation... tsk).

Utter End: Same as Anguished Unmaking, but no life loss and 1 mana extra.

Wear / Tear: Should help getting rid of enchantments, or artifacts whenever you need it, or both.

Sorcery

Cut / Ribbons: This one is pretty nice if you can cast it from the graveyard, might even remove something with the initial 4 damage as well, but the real kicker is of course the Aftermath effect.

Killing Wave: Sacrifice or pay in blood. It's perfect! Either they sacrifice and we swing in with Lifelink, or they pay! It won't really matter how high you make the X as you'll get it back from your opponents either way!

Torment of Hailfire: This card is so mean, but so cool.. I wouldn't want it used against me though. If you make the X high enough it's a board wipe and a life drain. you can even copy it with Wild Ricochet!

Artifacts

Licia is a ruthless general with two swords, so weapons are a must-have! If I would go more towards a theme, I'd find her some armor - probably Darksteel Plate, and a nice helmet - something like Helm of Kaldra or Prowler's Helm. Actually, that last one's not even a bad idea, who plays walls anyway??

Alhammarret's Archive: Keeping track of every sword and soldier can be difficult. Luckily we have the Archive to help keep and sort all the information, though weirdly enough it seems to double life gained and cards drawn..

Conqueror's Flail: +3/+3 and opponents can't cast spells during your turn. Cheap to cast, cheap to equip, adds a ton of value. Had to remove something though so took out Sigarda's Aid since all our artifacts are pretty cheap anyway.

Haunted Cloak: A nice fur coat that gives Haste, Trample, and Vigilance.

Prowler's Helm: I'm adding it, it's so cool! on theme and unblockable, don't need Trample if they can't touch you.

Sunforger: Packs a punch with +4/+0, but most importantly - functions as an instant speed tutor for .. instants. Boros Charm, Wild Ricochet, or really any of our instants except Vampiric Tutor will work with this. I might take Faith's Reward back in now that I included this.. had taken it out to make space previously.

Sword of Feast and Famine: Other than the +2/+2, protection from and , this sword also allows you to untap your lands. Now I didn't want to include this originally as it felt too powerful and yet unusable as, at that stage, I didn't have enough ways to use my land.. or so I thought. However, the early potential of this sword is unquestionable, for example; Use the mana you have, equip the sword on ANY lifelinker you currently have lying in play, swing, get life - hopefully enough to fund Licia (minimum of 4, 2p +2/+2) - and untap lands to fix the mana dedication (for Licia). The mid-endgame potential is even more rigged as it allows you to cast all your draw spells in first main, attack, and cast the cards you just drew in second main phase.

Sword of Fire and Ice: I kinda wish I bought the Modern Masters version instead of the Darksteel one now, because then it would have matching art with Sword of War and Peace instead of Sword of Light and Shadow. Protection from and , +2/+2 and 2 extra damage on combat damage, more importantly though is the card draw we get.

Sword of War and Peace: +2/+2, protection from and , and you get to Drain 'n Gain on combat damage. The lifegain/lifeloss should benefit us greatly.

Tenza, Godo's Maul: Not bad at all. I keep wanting to cut this out but I just can't find something that replaces +3/+3 and Trample (naturally we will equip this on Licia, otherwise it's an easy cut).

Creatures

Avacyn, Angel of Hope: I know what you're thinking.. "Bou, why is there an Angel in a Vampire/Voltron deck?" - Well.. I actually thought about this really hard, but when I looked at Licia's character background on the wizards website (Which I copy-pasted at the top of this description) I think I can get away with just one Angel. The question then becomes! which angel?? I wanted Archangel of Thune at first because lifegain and lifelink, but Akroma, Angel of Wrath has a ton more keywords, and Avacyn, Angel of Hope or Archangel Avacyn  Flip has more protection and removal capabilities. It also doesn't help that I have to buy the Thune angel (Thuna hehe) which is 20 bucks, and I have the Akroma and both Avacyns already in my binder. I know from experience that Akroma, Angel of Wrath is absurdly strong, so I might go with one of the avacyns. Haven't played Avacyn, Angel of Hope in ages, but Archangel Avacyn would probably be the best choice at the moment.

Bastion Protector: Give Licia +2/+2 and indestructible, which is not bad for 3 CMC.

Bloodsworn Steward: Same as the Human, but gives Haste.

Mathas, Fiend Seeker: Another new Vampire that should help with politics in the multiplayer game, you put a bounty counter on someone's creature and encourage others to kill it for card draw and some life.

Odric, Lunarch Marshal: If I'm going to allow other Soldiers, Odric is a must-have! Why cast multiple Enchantments if you can get all the effects with just this one :D.

Queen Marchesa: Politics, Deathtouch, and card Draw as long as you're the Monarch.

Vizkopa Guildmage: Like Serra Ascendant, neither Vampire nor Soldier, it's also not yet in.. but I'm considering it! Imagine the second ability and then swinging with Licia, or even just casting Blood Tithe or Syphon Soul (Which I've removed now but oh! the possibilities!). The best part is that it hits each opponent and you don't even need haste!

Enchantments

Duelist's Heritage: Double strike for Licia during your turn, politics in everyone else's turn!

Gift of Immortality: This should be amazing, I could also run Darksteel Plate but I know from experience how much harder it is to remove this enchantment. Not much you can do if they Exile Licia though.

Sunbond: While it's an enchant creature card, it's pretty much a no-brainer! Licia will double her power with every swing until they remove her. This enchantment is so incredibly overpowering though - if they remove it or kill your creature it vanishes yes, but you really only need to hit once to double up your power. basically if you put this on Licia and swing as the summoning sickness wears off she'll go from 10/10 (4/4 2*3 +1/+1), to 20/20. If nobody has an answer, it's pretty much game over.

Unquestioned Authority: Unblockable and you get a card back. it's a one-use card like Sunbond but once is more than enough.

Sorceries

Demonic Tutor: Find whatever you need.

Instants

Arcbond: I like to consider this a bit similar to Chandra's Ignition as in it lets a creature deal damage to everyone and everything, the difference is that you need to get hit for it to apply. Ideally, you cast this on Licia if you block with her or get blocked, and the damage dealer has a lot of power. It's completely Rakdos, macho card that works perfectly with any source of lifelink because the harder they hit the more damage you bounce back. As long as you don't kill yourself with it, the lifelink will heal you right up.

Boros Charm: Everything gets indestructible! Have fun with your board-wipe.

Vampiric Tutor: Find whatever you need, and totally on theme!

Wild Ricochet: I think this will probably be your first Sunforger find if things start looking bleak and someone is trying to exile or destroy something of yours.. Changes the target and copies it, so you can make them pay for their insolence! Or, you could cast it on literally any of your finishers for insane win. you could also cast your finishers for a lot less many if you're able to copy it - Exsanguinate(e.g.) with X = 5 instead of 10, and copy it to save some mana.



Improvements

Early impression Show

It's not bad. Usually manage to get Licia out on Turn 5 and swing for 10+ on Turn 6, give her Trample or something similar on Turn 7 and swing for lethal. These aren't real paper play-tests though! We have to take removal into account, as well as the fact that you're playing in a multiplayer setting, and when we do - the deck lacks some things. Early game ramp, and mid-late game draw and sustainability. With a perfect hand you can get Licia in the field Turn 3, but without the draw you won't get all the swords she needs. Lifegain is insane if Licia grows, but we don't have anything we can do with all the life unless we draw into Necropotence or similar. We also have to be careful about things like Tainted Remedy as this effect completely cripples the deck, so more removal would help.

If you would want to, you would be able to take out all the creatures except Licia, fill those slots with lifegain, ramp, and draw cards.. and you could get a Turn 5-6 lethal hit going purely voltron. Part of me wants to, but I know that it'll crank up the hate in my playgroup and that aside, Licia is supposed to be a general. What's a general without an army?


Comments and suggestions very much appreciated - Let me know if you think I missed anything!

(Be sure to mark cards as suggestions so I can give you helper points/good card recommendations if I like the suggestion)

Updates

It took a really really really long time, mostly due to me having a new job, but when my group finally managed to come together on Friday I had Licia ready to rumble!

It was a 4-player game with my opponents playing a lifegain/vampire token based Edgar Markov, a zombie/mill based Taigam, Sidisi's Hand, and a Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist/Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa partner deck.

I started off poorly with little ramp, some high CMC cards, but I had all the colors so I kept it anyway. Ended up playing Queen Marchesa early and did benefit from the monarch for a while. I didn't draw my lifegain at all, so it took a long time before I managed to get Licia into the field, but she survived the round. I cast Chandra's Ignition (perhaps a little too early, but it was in my opening hand and meh), which hit 12 damage (Orzhov Advokist + (2x 5 life)) on 10 creatures and 3 players, giving me +156 life and wiped the board, after which I swung at the Vampire player for 12 CMD damage.

This made me the threat.

I had ~ 196 life or something at that point and a 12/12 commander. So I can sorta get what they were thinking, but I didn't manage to draw into anything really substantial in the next few rounds.

Did grab my Necropotence and ended up using that to filter through ~ 40 cards but I couldn't get past the defenses of the Vampire player - who was really the only other threat.. and who ended up winning. (Dude blocked my Prowler's Helm'ed +6'ed Licia with a Mutavault ._. ). The other two players didn't really manage to come off the ground after my Chandra wipe and Killing Wave.

Mana was a big problem, I made a big jump with the lifegain but I didn't get enough mana in play so my momentum screeched to a halt. If I hadn't become the threat early onward I might have been able to take it easier and build a little bit more, so I'm a little pissed at myself for making the choice to kick things off with ignition.

Aside from that, the deck is a beast. Licia tears everything apart but becoming unblockable is an issue. Before I managed to equip Prowler's Helm I enchanted her with Unquestioned Authority but when I swung someone Swords to Plowshares'ed my Licia so I had to save her with Shelter and then my Authority disappeared... Might put Trailblazer's Boots or even Whispersilk Cloak in for more unblockable.

Comments

Arthurgress says... #1

Venser's Journal looks great with Licia.

August 9, 2017 2:30 p.m.

Bou says... #2

That's not bad yeah! will have to put in some more ways to get a nice full hand too.. very nice.

August 9, 2017 4:15 p.m.

PaulaTicks says... #3

Just like Kalemne, I'm ready to straight murder people with a Voltron commander that's immediately disregarded as boring. Some cards I've thrown into mine so far include

Dega Sanctuary, Glistening Oil , Chandra's Ignition, Illusionist's Bracers, Rings of Brighthearth, Wall of Reverence and Hatred

I like what you've done so far, more Vampire tribal than just voltron but all the lifelink seems like it will make her much easier to cast.

August 9, 2017 8:12 p.m.

Bou says... #4

@PaulaTicks: Kalamne is a cutie as well! never built with her but was tempted.

I'm very curious about the copy effects you mentioned.. Licia does read 'Activate this only once'.. would the copy from Rings of Brighthearth or Illusionist's Bracers even work or is it restricted by the wording?

The Dega Sanctuary looks nice yeah, hopefully they'll reprint it because I personally don't like these older looks.

August 10, 2017 7:01 a.m.

PaulaTicks says... #5

@Bou: They would work yes, you're only allowed to activate the ability once on your turn, but it doesn't say anything about how many times the effect can be copied.

August 10, 2017 9:10 a.m.

greatgoofini says... #6

Tainted Remedy group hug lifegain cards immediately become one-sided, plus Swords to Plowshares is excessivley better as well

August 10, 2017 4:45 p.m.

greatgoofini says... #7

Also I saw Congregate in your maybe board and figured you should also look at War Report

August 10, 2017 4:49 p.m.

Bou says... #8

I've been trying to cut cards for the past +-4 hours now, and I just now realized.. this deck would be so much better if I focused on soldiers instead of vampires. Maybe even a hybrid deck where we sacrifice soldier tokens to make vampires stronger. I still want to keep the life gain in there though.

@PaulaTicks That wording bothered me though, if it still work then it would be nice, especially in a more voltron-ey deck with more activiated abilities. But, as it is now, I don't have enough to make copy cards worth the inclusion. Also, Chandra's Ignition is going to be a game-winning card, what the hell.. the potential on that is insane, coupled with lifelink even more so.

@greatgoofini: Oh I was typing this up as you posted, good timing :D.

I took Congregate out earlier! but if I do switch to a soldier-vampire hybrid like I'm thinking of.. I'll definitely take it back in because it's going to be just way too good. if so, War Report can join in as well , nice find :)

Tainted Remedy is something I'll have to watch out for as well.. could totally break this deck.

August 10, 2017 5:19 p.m.

Bou says... #9

Decided to ditch the other soldiers after all and lean more towards voltron. Which actually makes sense because she's carrying like two swords.

I'm really curious to see what else they're going to spoil :)

August 11, 2017 8:40 a.m.

gman10 says... #10

Have you considered Sorin, Lord of Innistrad? It has a cheap anthem and makes some lifelink tokens. The ultimate is solid when you reach it.

August 11, 2017 12:51 p.m.

Bou says... #12

That's actually not a bad Sorin! Haven't once managed to trigger ultimates on planeswalkers in my playgroup so I pretty much only look at the first two abilities haha. I feel he might work even better in an Edgar Markov token deck though. I'll put it in the maybe-board for now until I figure out what to cut. thanks :)

Edit: Okay so I didn't know but it seems Emblems can stack?! I definitely have to put this in then!

August 12, 2017 6:10 a.m.

What about all the Outlast creatures? They can buff her for her +1/+1 counters

August 12, 2017 3:21 p.m.

AkaAkuma says... #14

Hey looks good! I am thinking about starting a Licia EDH as well. Although i might take a soldier route instead of vampire.

What about Favor of the Mighty, Rest for the Weary or maybe Aetherflux Reservoir?

Also Sunspring Expedition and Ordeal of Heliod might be interesting but i'd rather keep playing Licia a surprise.

August 12, 2017 7:49 p.m.

Bou says... #15

@ReignBeauxRida: The Outlast creatures would be so much better if you could put a +1/+1 on other creatures, as it is now they only put them on themselves. Abzan Falconer and Mer-Ek Nightblade would be interesting though! The other effects we already have.

@AkaAkuma: Thanks! Soldiers are definitely a good option, I toyed with the idea as well. Favor of the Mighty seems good but you have to keep in mind that protection also means we can't enchant or target her, so we can't give her more counters, the equips still work because they don't have a color.

Rest for the Weary looks pretty good, but you'd ideally want it if they blow up Licia and you need to recast her.. Sunspring Expedition might be good as well for the same reason, just wait a little with sacrificing until you need it. I'm still piecing together the heal spells so I'll put this in the maybeboard :). Ordeal of Heliod on Licia wouldn't work that well..

The problem with lifegain spells is that you need them to help you cast Licia. If she's already there, extra life doesn't really matter because just fighting with her can get you pretty much 10 life a turn. Add in all the other tools we have and you can easily get 100 life. Aetherflux Reservoir at that point, would just be mean hahaha

August 13, 2017 8:25 a.m.

chiri says... #16

I think Serra Ascendant fits nicely here. Same with Archetype of Finality. Deathtouch and lifelink are a great combination.

August 13, 2017 10:22 a.m.

chiri says... #17

With all the Vampire tokens you're making, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet can be your man. Lifelink too!

August 13, 2017 10:24 a.m.

AkaAkuma says... #18

I agree Bou! Still i have to see how well Licia sustains our life. But Favor of the Mighty does not counter Licia's selfpumping ability? I've done quite some more brainstorming and came to the conclusion that Licia actually does not fit the tribal ideas so much, that is Edgar's game. To add to this I miss green haha. but still I want to make it work!

So even though Edgar would profit more from these, Anointed Procession, Coat of Arms and Shared Animosity would help our vampires. "Mynea frian, dark apostle", a card from the upcoming Ixalan expansion also helps with creating tokens. (I forgot about Kalitas! Thanks Chiri)

While not fitting the theme Martyr of Sands, Rhox Faithmender and as mentioned above Serra Ascendant would help throwing Licia out asap. I also might add a Paraselene.

To support Licia's pumping Sunbond, Rings of Brighthearth and Illusionist's Bracers would be good additions.

August 13, 2017 3:56 p.m.

Bou says... #19

Oh Akuma, You're right. Had a bit of a brainfart there but was under the impression you would have to target Licia - which you don't, so it's all good. Edgar Markov is really the Vampire tribal overlord yeah - I don't make that many tokens in this deck. Think it's just Bloodline Keeper and Sorin, Lord of Innistrad that have the potential. Mynea is a nice addition from Ixalan, now that I looked.. so is Sanguine Sacrament. And I thought waiting for C17 was bad :'(.

Chiri! deathtouch and lifelink are certainly formidable! especially when you have first strike too hehe. I'm not sure about adding Serra Ascendant, it's a great 1-drop that is basically a 6/6 always, but it being a monk bothers me a bit - this is just me being petty though! it's a great card. As for Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet.. not a fan of the Zombies. Yes you get them for free, and you can even sac them to make Kalitas stronger, and he's a 3/4 for 4 with lifelink. Tons of value and I should really be playing him.. but I won't, for now.

I was looking for Sunbond, should add more value to our lifegain spells as well.

August 14, 2017 2:51 a.m.

Bou says... #20

Showers are amazing, always get the best realizations.

I'm putting the Serra Ascendant in, it's a potential T3 Licia.

August 14, 2017 3:16 a.m.

greatgoofini says... #21

If you want what is imo a better card than Favor of the Mighty, use Spectra Ward

August 14, 2017 6:13 a.m.

Qolorful says... #22

Unquestioned Authority is a pretty solid card for licia. Evasion that replaces itself is fantastic

August 14, 2017 8:16 a.m.

Bou says... #23

Spectra Ward is a little high on the curve, but it's one-sided and +2/+2.. hmm. Also very pretty.

Unquestioned Authority is perfect! guarantees a clean hit, totally on theme, and you even get a card. Might switch out my helmet for this.

August 14, 2017 8:24 a.m.

Delta-117 says... #24

August 16, 2017 1:55 p.m.

Treehugger003 says... #25

For the voltron theme have you considered adding a Sunforger package?

Late game card draw I am planning to use Erebos, God of the Dead. its indestructable, prevents lifegain for opponents and allows card draw.

Land Tax, and Sword of the Animist work well. I like how land tax can really thin your deck late game.

Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim is a bit harder and probably belongs with one of the other commanders but she has great utility. I used to use her as my commnader but she drew sooo much hate.

Tree

August 16, 2017 2:33 p.m.

Bou says... #26

I actually started off with a Sunforger but took it out as I kept cutting instants. I'm now considering adding more protection / finisher-copy cards like Reiterate, Reverberate, Wild Ricochet, maybe even Arcbond, so its not a bad idea to re-add the sunforger yeah! that would certainly help.

Big fan of the Sword of the Animist as well, and I've seen Land Tax explode often enough to know it's definitely worth it - I mention it in the "Ramp" section I typed up - but have been thinking lately about getting an older and slightly cheaper version. Erebos, God of the Dead and similarly Greed or Vampiric Rites are quite nice. What bothers me though is the relatively high mana cost for each draw, making it difficult to repeat each turn. I'm obviously okay with paying the life but I need the mana for my other spells. This is why Necropotence is so good, and why I'm considering Ad Nauseam and / or Moonlight Bargain. While these are single cast instants, 5 mana can get so many more cards than the ~ 2 cards Erebos could get you. Greed on the other hand would get you 5 cards so that's pretty much even with Moonlight Bargain. I guess it depends on whether you want the indestructible creature or the extra cards.

At the moment though I'm more or less satisfied with the ramp and would probably try to include the above mentioned red spells first as my group has begun playing a lot more removal lately and I need a way to protect my non-land permanents better. I might cut out some more creatures, but it's getting more and more difficult.

August 18, 2017 8:09 p.m.

chiri says... #27

Odric, Lunarch Marshal would be great for your combat steps. Giving your whole team relevant keyword abilities!

August 19, 2017 2:44 a.m.

Bou says... #28

Yeah that's why he's already in there! ;)

August 19, 2017 5:45 a.m.

Bou says... #29

Ever since adding Serra Ascendant I've been thinking about how horribly broken this can get if you would disregard the Vampire/Soldier theme... Vizkopa Guildmage's second ability, Rhox Faithmender, Mother of Runes, Kambal, Consul of Allocation to name just a few examples, I'm sure there are more. Seriously tempted to sneak the vizkopa in though!

I'm looking forward to this friday! I have pretty much everything prepared, but my playgroup wants to play with just the precons for a bit before we modify them.. so won't get to actually test my own brew just yet :'(.

August 22, 2017 5:26 p.m.

No one has mentioned Ivory Tower. This must change.

August 23, 2017 8:35 p.m.

chiri says... #31

As soon as I saw Licia though, I was fully convinced in a voltron deck. The vampire theme is cool but your general doesn't lend itself very well to tribal. Up to you though how much you want to stick with the theme! Just happy observing how you shape the deck out to be.

August 24, 2017 12:17 a.m.

CptCrumpet says... #32

Hey, brilliant list you've got here. Just curious to why you're a little low on the boardwipe side of things?

August 24, 2017 6:13 p.m.

Bou says... #33

@TheSpiritombEnthusiast: The Ivory Tower is fantastic yeah, but do you think I have enough draw to keep my hand properly filled for it? Draw's pretty much always been my weak point.

This would be very nice if I also added in a Land Tax actually.. hmm.

@CptCrumpet: thanks! I have a bit of spot removal for real pesky things, but I was considering Damnation and Wrath of God at first. I figured I could get away without wipes as long as I gained enough life and had enough unblockable/trample gimmicks to still deal damage - or just drain opponents directly. It might actually be a different story if I had more non-creature life gain as right now most of my gain comes from Lifelink, not so much through spells. So the way I thought about it, blowing up all creatures would probably set me back more than my opponents. Chandra's Ignition is different because even though it wipes the board, I do gain life from it.. whereas Fumigate for example would technically work as well but would potentially not give as much life. Killing Wave would be good though, especially with Exquisite Blood, but the 'problem' there is the X for mana.

Eh I guess the bottom line is I want my wipes to benefit me most, and I'm really picky haha.

August 25, 2017 4:41 a.m.

gman10 says... #34

Tragic Arrogance is a great boardwipe. It lets you keep your best stuff and your opponents get their worst.

August 25, 2017 8:24 a.m.

CptCrumpet says... #35

Bou: Thanks for the clarification. Now that I think about it, I guess it comes down to your meta (if it's more creature based or not). I think in the coming weeks while everyone is dipping their toe in tribal, boardwipes might be more useful than usual but I'm sure that's not the case for everyones playgroups.

Anyway, I look forward to hearing how this deck preforms for you. I've got my own Licia deck brewing and yours has given me a few ideas I wouldn't have thought of. Keep it up!

August 26, 2017 4:01 a.m.

felletje says... #36

Think you'd like Tavern Swindler.

August 27, 2017 9:56 a.m.

Lastnotice says... #37

Words of Worship would allow you to get licia off consistently turn 3 every game. Assuming you have 1 mana rock/dork.

For me getting licia off turn 2/3 is key so that is what I'll be focusing on with my deck. I haven't posted it yet but when I do I'll link you.

August 28, 2017 3:36 p.m.

Bou says... #38

@felletje: Tavern Swindler looks good yeah! but knowing my luck with flips and gambles, I'd probably never get the life haha..

@CptCrumpet: These new commanders added and reprinted some really amazing cards so it's very understandable that everyone is experimenting with Tribal :) I pretty much build nothing else, though I have lately been deviating a bit and am starting to pull away with this deck the more goodies I add >_>.

@Lastnotice: It's harder than I thought to get all three colors early on, might throw in more mana rocks to help with that. Turn 3 is definitely possible if you manage to get the colors and I would be happy if we could get her out on turn 3 consistently. But turn 2? ehh.. You'd need an insane hand with pretty much all the expensive cards I don't have haha. I'd love to see that though, so be sure to tag/link me when you finish your deck!

August 28, 2017 4:06 p.m.

Hey! After playing with this commander, I discovered that it is a pure Voltron commander, and that lifegain is good when it allows you to play Licia faster. Cards like Vampire Nighthawk are not that good actually (well it depends how you want to play your deck).

You can take a look at my deck here for ideas : Brutal Voltron Licia, Sanguine Tribune

By the way, i see Bond of Agony in your decklist. I don't know if you realize that you must also pay X mana and the X life, making it a very poor card. Debt to the Deathless is far better.

It's cool to see someone else play a Licia deck!

August 30, 2017 8:43 a.m.

Bou says... #40

Hey Maumoleseullevrai! I've taken a look and it really is more brutal ;). I'm going to elaborate a bit on both your comment here and from your deck, so it's a little big.

I agree with your consideration that lifegain is not a real priority with Licia. It definitely helps casting her and Licia herself hits like a truck but once she's in the field the lifegain is pretty moot so I do understand that perspective on it. I guess why people focused on small lifelinkers is to make the life more accessible. I initially started this as a life drain deck - make everyone lose more life than you and if possible, gain from it. But have moved more and more towards voltron, though some elements do remain.

Bond of Agony is one such element. I know that you have to pay mana and life to make everyone lose life, but as we have Licia.. our life loss doesn't matter, theirs does. I would much rather cast Bond of Agony for , have everyone at the table lose 5 life equally, and then swing with licia to get 10(+) life back, than putting that same 6 mana in Debt to the Deathless, which would have to be . Sure, it would get me 6 Life and would drain everyone 2, but the dedicated mana is a hurdle I considered too high. The difference between these two spells is the intention, do you want to gain life or do you want everyone to lose life? Of course if you have more than 6 mana to spend the difference becomes a lot bigger, but I like to consider 6 a soft cap and keep mana open for other spells, instant removal etc.

As for Aerial Responder and Vampire Nighthawk, if you consider it from a pure voltron then I agree that these are not that good, however, I put them in for three reasons. They're cheap at 3CMC for the power and effects they give, They can block or attack when Licia is not in the field or is tapped, and the keywords become game-breaking, absolutely insane when I play Odric, Lunarch Marshal. Flying, Vigilance, Deathtouch, First Strike, Lifelink Licia, Sanguine Tribune? hell yes! Don't forget Odric gives these effects to all your creatures eh? so those rather small and meaningless creatures suddenly evolve into world-oblitherating killing machines that beat face for breakfast.

My concerns with going pure voltron is that I usually play in a group with 3 sometimes 4 other players. If I get too strong (or if I forget to get the next round of drinks or really any reason bleh), they will definitely focus me down. I've seen the same with my Saskia deck EDH Saskia's Warband, and I really don't want a repeat of that as I had to retire it rather early. Especially lifegain is something they can't cope with, if you play the effect once they'll assume you have more, so you can afford to take more hits. This is what I have to keep in mind when I build my decks, and that is also one of the reasons I haven't yet gone pure voltron. It's absolutely possible to swing Licia in turn 4/5 for 20/20 lifelink double strike, but if I were to do so, it would be my first and last attack in that game.

Licia is exciting! But I think putting her in one specific corner, whether it be lifegain matters or pure voltron, is a bit of a waste. She's a general, so plan ahead and use everything you can to come out victorious.

August 30, 2017 10:04 a.m.

thanks Bou for the big answer!

I understand the choice for bond of agony, even if I don't find it that useful. By the way, Debt to the Deathless with actually deals 4 damage to each opponent and you gain 12 life points because the damage is doubled up (that's why it's such a good card). for 6 CMC that's the same as exsanguinate, and the difference goes up a lot after that.

I don't know if you have tried it but Sanguine Bond is crazy good, far better than Exquisite Blood because even a cheap block can deal huge amounts of damage with Licia.

By the way, if you're more on the planning side of things, you can consider Queen Marchesa. Gives you the crown, deathtouch haste for Ordic, and is pretty cheap for her power(unless you want her in foil). People don't often consider her in the 99 but I think she can be quite good.

On my table, people underestimate Licia a lot, seeing how poorly she does in the precon deck. They didn't touch mine until she was a 28/28 indestructible. That was pretty fun!

August 30, 2017 11:12 a.m.

Bou says... #42

Oh you're absolutely right, Debt to the Deathless deals double, I missed that in the big type-up ha. The color dedication still stands for me though, but damage-wise you're right.

Sanguine Bond is much much better than Exquisite Blood, it's not even funny how much damage it can deal to a target opponent. I actually just removed the paragraph detailing these cards from my description as I've been editing since your last comment, but I didn't include Sanguine Bond precisely because it was too effective and targets only one player. Vizkopa Guildmage does the same but for every opponent, I feel if everyone loses it's a bit more fair. If you do play Sanguine Bond, consider Blood Tribute as well, maybe a bit mean but you can outright kill someone with it (just checked and you already have it ;)).

I've just taken out Exquisite Blood because I felt it was a bit unnecessary, better to add in some more removal or protection for Licia. Perhaps in the late-game it would be more useful but let's be honest.. Licia will tear people apart early enough.

I hadn't considered Queen Marchesa at all! I guess because I initially started with a Vampire tribal so I never considered others.. The Monarch is something I have been considering in other decks of mine to help with draw so this is pretty interesting, Adds a little more Politics and the keywords help with Odric as well yeah! Nice find, I'll have to take a look at what to cut out for her.

August 30, 2017 11:54 a.m.

Venti says... #43

Hatred, Unspeakable Symbol, Treasonous Ogre, Aetherflux Reservoir - Give your life and blood for victory.

Children of Korlis, Tainted Sigil - Get it all back immediately!

September 4, 2017 8:10 a.m.

TheRealMcFoy says... #44

Just used a proxy of this deck for my first ever EDH games. I was playing against a few people who were trying new decks, but I won both games! This deck is super fun to play, it just feels like Licia spends the first part of the game charging up and selecting weapons, before wading in and just wrecking the opponents. I'm going to start slowly acquiring the main deck to play it legitimately.

September 9, 2017 5:12 p.m.

Bou says... #45

Wow! that's great to hear! I'm glad you had fun and totally stoked that you used this deck to jump into EDH! You might want to try some other decks before you start buying the cards though, EDH offers many many options but some cards can be pretty pricey if you can't use them in other decks.

September 10, 2017 8:13 a.m.

DrkNinja says... #46

What do you think about Erebos, God of the Dead as a substitute for Greed? It's practically the same thing but it's indestructible and its a dude that can swing for 5 most often. Been playing around with this idea in my deck

October 16, 2017 6:28 p.m.

Bou says... #47

The big difference between Greed and Erebos, God of the Dead when it comes to drawing cards, is that Erebos costs a lot more mana per draw. If you scroll up to the comments from August 18th it has some elaboration. What I've noticed in my plays is that I need to keep as much mana available for either instants or pretty much don't manage to get enough mana to begin with, so I prefer smaller costs such as with Greed. But, if you have the mana, Erebos is definitely the better choice due to it being an indestructible creature AND having the gimmick where people can't gain life - you can shut down another lifegain/vampire life deck completely. If I were to put it in, I'd probably need to reassess the mana-base as well.

October 19, 2017 12:16 p.m.

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