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Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Legendary Creature — Elf Warrior
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may have target opponent discard a card at random.
Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may create a 1/1 green Elf Warrior creature token.
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Nath of the Gilt-Leaf Discussion
1 week ago
I think we're more or less agreeing on the potential nuances of multicolor. My basic position is that multicolors can be defined just as well as single colors, and as more than the sum of their parent colors.
Helios is white. Elesh Norn is white. Ajani is white. They're all white, but they're the tortilla, sandwich bread, and pita of white. (Your choice for which one's which.) White includes fascism, military skill, order, and unity, but Ajani isn't exactly fascist, and Helios is more interested in making his champion than unifying everyone. I think we can agree on this.
All the colors, and their subsequent combinations, have a huge variety of potential nuances, but they're all distinct from each other, even between different amounts of coloredness. I don't see green/black as green + black, I see it as a unique collection of ideals, goals, beliefs, whatever I said up above.
Are all of these essentially green/black, as cards or characters?
I believe the character of Doran is unique in outlook from the others, and Rhys is green, with a black motivation, as well-represented by the cards.
2 months ago
As mentioned in previous discussions, there is little reason for this deck to be green white. The only card which is white other than the commander currently are Journey to Nowhere , and then there are 2 cards which are hybrid mana in Mercy Killing and Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers . Both of these are either easily replaced, or are mostly cut-able anyway.
Your choices from there mostly depend on which way you would like the deck to go.
In G/B your best option Nath of the Gilt-Leaf as this allows you to be an elf deck that can have board and hand control, with black removal and other tutor based options. This will be a good midrange option that allows you to grind out games and stop others going off by ripping their hands apart.
In G/U you end up with more combo options. The easily best is Momir Vig, Simic Visionary but its also the most combo based and complicated. Other than that you have Edric, Spymaster of Trest which can help you keep cards flowing. Tishana, Voice of Thunder is also another way to draw a lot of cards, but isn't actually an elf herself.
3 months ago
Thanks garruk3. I ahve thought about those cards but Ezuri, Renegade Leader doesnt fit, and Im still considering Nath of the Gilt-Leaf and Heritage Druid but I still need to get rid of 8 cards already.
3 months ago
If you are comfortable with affording it, Heritage Druid is an extremely good card. Ezuri, Renegade Leader is also another good one. You could also try and drop Nath of the Gilt-Leaf if you ever so desire. Other than that the deck looks solid.
4 months ago
Diver Down You know who else plays Sadistic Hypnotist and breaks the symmetry of Smokestack ? Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker . Hell, if you're way ahead, you can put as many counters on that damn thing as you want, and you sacrifice dozens of creatures to Hypnotist. Also, he was printed before Nath of the Gilt-Leaf , so Nath can suck my chode!
(Okay, in all seriousness, he actually does something relevant even without additional dudes on the field, and also gives you access to some great green stax effects, but I digress)
As for this list being dead? Well, yeah, basically. People have been suggesting all sorts of changes for a while now that simply haven't been implemented, whether they've been largely agreed with or not.
I wouldn't know what else the authors of this list are doing in the 'cedh community' because I'm not giving my phone number to the cEDH Discord, which I assume they're a part of. Look, I get it's a stupidly big server, but you're never getting my phone number just because I'm a cEDH player.
4 months ago
Boy, there has been a lot of clamoring about moving various commanders up to High Power lately. It kinda makes sense that it'd be one of the most contested tiers, but the problem here is that tier 3 should really just be split up into two tiers--whoever it was that suggested that idea some time ago, I agree. The old fogeys who are generally always in favor of the status quo look at tier 3 and see Azami, Lady of Scrolls , Kaalia of the Vast , and Atraxa, Praetors' Voice and say that Teysa Karlov and Krav, the Unredeemed and Niv-Mizzet, Parun and Anafenza, the Foremost and ahem Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker aren't worthy of high power, but neglect all the other commanders in high power ( Nath of the Gilt-Leaf , Kestia, the Cultivator , Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper , Thada Adel, Acquisitor , etc.) who aren't quite so good as the previous examples.
Basically, if it provides an easy win condition for a control/stax deck or is a dumb cumpster for some colorless infinite mana combo, the consensus is that it's at least tier 3, but apart from that, the criteria seem to be a little vaguely applied as far as said tier goes. I think it'd be easiest to just make a tier 3.5 and adjust the criteria definitions rather than move a whole bunch of commanders up and some commanders down, but that's just me.
Flarhoon13 on Elves!
4 months ago
4 months ago
I think Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons could be viable, but she'll require a bit more build-around, since she's based on getting combat damage through. But she could be done. Nath of the Gilt-Leaf could be good, as well, building around the discard theme along with Aristocrats. As far as lists go, I've got a Slimefoot, the Stowaway deck in the works right now, but its a ways from being finished. I did recently finish a Prossh, Skyraider of Kher build that runs a lot of Aristocrats. If I was going to build it, I'd probably go with Savra, Queen of the Golgari , or Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest , but that's just me.
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