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Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Legendary Creature — Elf Warrior
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may have target opponent discard a card at random.
Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may create a 1/1 green Elf Warrior creature token.
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Nath of the Gilt-Leaf Discussion
1 day ago
Expanding on whatLord_Olga mentioned there are more cards that could give you access to elf tokens to accelerate the win con.
Yeva, Nature's Herald | Prowess of the Fair | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord | Nath of the Gilt-Leaf | Thornbow Archer
Joiner Adept | Essence Warden | Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen | Elves of Deep Shadow | Gnarlroot Trapper
2 weeks ago
You're welcome. I still need to post our Hapatra deck on tappedout. My wife and I use 65 different EDH decks and posting them all is slow going; especially since we always want to post some extensive background, tactics, etc along with them.
Archfiend is indeed very well suited to a discard strat. However, many players these days like to sow some chaos by forcing wheel-like effects on you, or forcing you to discard in other ways. I use Archfiend to discourage that behaviour. But again, you're right about him; he's even more insane in our Nath of the Gilt-Leaf deck that also still needs to be posted by us. :)
FYI: In case you feel like it, we would very much appreciate any feedback you might have on the decks we HAVE posted on tappedout already.
1 month ago
Hey All! Looking for help on some decision-making!
I acquired Parallel Lives and Doubling Season for my Nath of the Gilt-Leaf build, but I'm finding the tactics to that deck are just too mean. I'd like to rebuild a deck to utilize those two expensive cards. What Would You Do?
Prossh, Skyraider of Kher (my original plan)
Marath, Will of the Wild (my fiancee's pick)
I do not own a Food Chain; which would be an expensive combo piece for prossh and marath. Not necessary, but def makes the deck(s) stronger
I now own a ton of elves due to Nath; which could go great with Tana
I pretty much own all the shock and buddy lands to go with all three builds. No fetches.
Any and all thoughts are greatly appreciated! Thanks!
2 months ago
While a mill deck in commander is hard to create, as most of the usable/good mill cards target, it is a lot of fun to play. Discard is a little easier, but not by much. Also, the best colour combination for this type of deck is U/B and Atraxa has two extra colours that don't really help as well as her ability not synergising very well with mill or discard. Anyway, you asked and I shall try to deliver.
First the milling essentials: Glimpse the Unthinkable is the best mill spell bar none and is required. Secondly Increasing Confusion is quite good for commander, as mana totals will get quite large. Thirdly, Mind Funeral is great, as is Mind Grind. Fourthly, Mind Sculpt and Tome Scour mill for 7 and 5 respectfully, which is not too great, so only run them if you feel like that small amount of mill is extremely useful. Fifth, Hedron Crab is a great one drop due to the mill 3 per land you drop. Also, speaking of one drops, Jace's Phantasm is a good creature that soon becomes great with mill and discard. Sixth, Nemesis of Reason is stupidly good as it mills 10 per attack! It doesn't even need to cause damage! Startled Awake Flip is a nice mill spell and recurs too. Another great creature, and my recommended commander, is Szadek, Lord of Secrets. His milling will get massive really fast. All you need to do is get him in unblocked. Use Rogue's Passage or Whispersilk Cloak. Some good beaters are Consuming Aberration and Sewer Nemesis. If you don't care about price, then Jace, the Mind Sculptor is awesome, but if budget is a thing Jace Beleren is a nice cheap replacement. Now onto the milling combos! Traumatize and Fraying Sanity completely destroy an opponent, as does Keening Stone and Fraying Sanity. Archive Trap and Ghost Quarter are great together, as is Maralen of the Mornsong and Archive Trap. Also, Ghost Quarter helps get rid of land for Mind Funeral and Mind Grind. Lastly, Jace's Erasure and any card draw is quite nice. Thats about it for mill, now onto discard!
First off you need Waste Not. It is beautiful. The Rack works when you have made them discard down to 2 or less, which is one of your goals. Quest for the Nihil Stone and Shrieking Affliction are like The Rack - dealing small damage when opponents don't have hands. Liliana's Caress and Megrim do small amounts of damage per discarded card, which is nice. Bottomless Pit helps keep opponents hands empty, as does Necrogen Mists. Oppression is awesome, as is Painful Quandary, and both together is god-tier. Underworld Dreams is nice little 'screw you' after they loose their hands. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur murders everyone but you late game. Nath of the Gilt-Leaf is goddamn beautiful and breaks even more when you have Sadistic Hypnotist, Nezumi Bone-Reader and/or Mind Slash out. Another awesome combo is Mindcrank plus Bloodchief Ascension with three counters and any discard to an opponent means you kill them. With Dark Deal or similar you win. While these two things are great and all, you need some utility and a way to keep you alive when you suddenly become the target.
To stay alive, you need some pillowforts like Propaganda and Ghostly Prison. Cards like Frozen AEther and Kismet will help keep the opponent's board from becoming too overwhelming and Standstill will prevent spells for a small while. Psychic Spiral is another great spell that gets back all of your mill spells and it also mills an opponent for a little too. Talrand, Sky Summoner is fun with all the spells you are slinging, and he provides an alternate win condition. Another alternate win is through infection. Cards like Flesh-Eater Imp, Hand of the Praetors, Phyrexian Crusader, Phyrexian Juggernaut, Necropede, Putrefax, Plague Stinger and Corpse Cur all win you the game when they deal 10 damage to an opponent. Also, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon is a good option but is quite expensive. Cards like Giant Growth make you win harder. Infect is where Atraxa shines due to the added poison counters to each opponent every time you finish your turn. Adding Contagion Engine might even make your opponents scoop.
Good God, that is a big slab of writing. Here is a deck list I made for you: Atraxa makes you loose your mind!. Tell me what you think!
2 months ago
Thank you all for the suggestions so far! I've taken a good many of these suggestions, and I can see this deck fleshing itself out more and more. Still need cards to remove to get to the legal 100 though
And yes, I agree with Thallion on the burn aspect of Liliana's Caress, Megrim, etc. At the very LEAST it's pairing with Nath who grants one discard at upkeep. I will gladly take 2 indirect damage per upkeep (With plenty of more room for discarding), and with a few of the combos in this deck, like Sadistic Hypnotist + Nath of the Gilt-Leaf and Geth's Grimoire + Words of Waste, you will not only be constantly clearing their hand full of answers, but dealing 2 or more damage for each card in the process. Then Quest for the Nihil Stone can come along to help finish the job.
I can agree it is not super fast in say a 1v1 setting where you're the only source of damage to that opponent, but in a standard 4-player game where players are also hurting eachother, I'd say these do some rather significant harm.
I also have to say I'm not necessarily excited about running Dark Deal but I will because it's just a sorcery? I feel like it kind of hurts the player too much to have them discarding as well, but for Dark Deal it is slightly more utility in that it can allow you to discard a bad hand and effectively mulligan in the midst of the game. And of course you make everyone else discard in the process.
2 months ago
allanrichardo That's a good point. I've taken Nath of the Gilt-Leaf out of the deck. I prefer to have Khenra Charioteer in the build, since redundancy is very important in EDH. I'm just glad to help. :)
2 months ago
I think Nath of the Gilt-Leaf or Khenra Charioteercan be replaced with Iroas. Yes Nath is a warrior and can create warrior. But 1 warrior every upkeep seems to slow unless u have cards like Primal Vigor or Parallel Lives. I'd rather give all my creature menace from iroas effect ( its like trample but in diffrent way, u still can deals combat damage from unblocable warriors, thats why Khenra Charioteer is no needed ), seems more trouble for our opponents to block menaced creatures. Besides, u already have Surrak Dragonclaw. Just my 2 cent :).
Btw, i think i'll netdecking from your list ! najeela seems interesting !
2 months ago
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