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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Creature — Kor Cleric
When Skyclave Cleric enters the battlefield, you gain 2 life.
4 months ago
Hey, it's Dylan's friend, Justin. He asked me to weigh in on the list. So... Hello! The list looks very good, especially if it's your first time building a deck. Plus, Angels are always cool and fun.
If I was to offer any criticism, well, first even before I talk cards and strategy, I noticed the deck is labelled as being *Standard. It's not, but it is very close to being so. So you get to make a choice here. Do you want a deck that you could play against other people in a friendly, competitive environment or do you want just a fun deck to play casually that you wouldn't need to update? You are so close to the former, that I might just recommend that. But if you didn't want to do that, that's fine, too.
If you wanted a standard list you just need to replace the cards marked in red text. there are not many of them and some, I would recommend cutting altogether anyway. For instance, the one mana cards could go. Segovian Angel is an angel, but it's not very impactful and won't be worth the card if you draw it early or late. Soul Warden is an amazing card, but it only really excels when a lot of creatures are entering the battlefield (which your deck doesn't really support) or when cards are triggering by gaining any amount of life - Archangel of Thune is a great example of this, but your deck only has one. AND at that point, we might as well cut the non-standard cards. I would replace the Go for the Throat with Infernal Grasp and Vanishing Verse and I might go as far as playing 4 copies of each of those. I would play 4x Skyclave Cleric Flip or Ambitious Farmhand Flip (just to add some consistency with hitting land drops. Speaking of lands, definitely add some duals and maybe some utility lands. Emeria's Call Flip Great Hall of Starnheim Brightclimb Pathway Flip Scoured Barrens Shattered Sanctum Shineshadow Snarl Silverquill Campus Snowfield Sinkhole Are all in standard and you can choose how much $ you want to spend. I would settle on x8 dual lands and 0-2 utility lands from among those. I would also just play x4 Righteous Valkyrie, that to me looks like your best card and has the best synergy with the rest of the deck. The deck also looks soft to early aggressive decks... so I might consider adding in 1-2 Doomskar to help with that. Lastly, I might try to find room for a few of these cards, but they are more preference-based as I think they deck looks very playable already. I would try to jam maybe a few of these cards: Enduring Angel Flip Starnheim Unleashed Haunting Voyage.
If you didn't want to worry about standard legality, I would find someway somehow to find room for some amount of Baneslayer Angel. Maybe a Linvala, the Preserver as a cool one-of and if you wanted to spend the $, Resplendent Angel seems like a perfect include as x1-x4 of.
Hope that was helpful! And... take what I say with a grain of salt, I'm not exactly what you would call an active Magic player.
5 months ago
Nice! Very thought-through, I like the detail you’ve gone into.
Only thing I’d recommend perhaps is switching Skyclave Cleric Flip for Charming Prince - much more versatility and value. I’m not sure the flip side of Cleric is worth it, tbh, with 25 lands already. I’d say either swap that out, or ditch a land for something else, making use of the tap lands.
6 months ago
looking at this from a super budget pov there are a couple of cards i would seriouly consider
Flickerwisp has been printed into the ground and with soulherder on the field he gets rid of your opponents needed land, plainswalker or creature for the entirety of there turn. hes also a good card to flicker your own stuff and is a solid flying attacker. most importanly hes been printed into the ground the last few years and sits between 5-25 cents (if you run a couple flip lands like Umara Wizard Flip or Skyclave Cleric Flip and target them with the flicker effect it turns them back into creatures for some solid board advantage or as a combat trick with Ephemerate
Professor of Symbology with a wishboard of
can get you out of most situations reduce kills anything for good science means you can keep a 2 land hand with prof and not regret it and mascot is a solid wincon if the games gets grindy. also prof is a solid looter if you get all your wishboard cards and the whole paxkage is under $2 (i still use this in my $100 mono white flicker list, and the deck has top 3 a few time and this card is the decks stoneforge mystic and is defiantly the next best thing)
1-2 copys of Lavinia of the Tenth this is a hard lock with soulherder for many deck. and pro red and the deck having instant speed flicker spells card be very difficult for some decks to deal with.
Hallowed Respite may be worth running as a 2 off, its a flicker spell that pumps or taps down problematic blocker and can be done a secound time late in the game when you need the value the most.
if you can find it in the budget id try very hard to run 4 Reflector Mage its basically the reson to run blue (alongside soulherder) for none budget versions of this list, and ist much much cheaper that Skyclave Apparition
on the oust issue this may seem strange but it may be worth considering Baffling End for 2 resons, 1 it can be flickered by flicker wisp or similar to exile extra things. 2 they stay permanently exiled, i wont be ideal for every situation but may well work for some.
if your planning on upgrading to moder staple id recomed 2 copys of Winds of Abandon before path. 1 its a solid path effect. 2 in the mid-lat game its a one sided boardwipe and there for can take the slots for cleansing nova while being more useful (also its a boardwipe that exiles meaning if you have a soulherder on the field it can easily be a 5-5/6-6 after casting this)
the secound cards id upgrade is Skyclave Apparition its hands down the most powerful card im my $100 version of the deck and is often my best draw. this and a Ephemerate or soulherder and you basically have a board wipe
if you do end up running 4 path 2 winds, then it can be worth running Knight of the White Orchid which makes Glacial Floodplain or Irrigated Farmland worth running (they also work great with and trigger Port Town)
id also consdider adding a manland to your landbase. on a budget you have either Frostwalk Bastion, Faerie Conclave. if you have a little more then Cave of the Frost Dragon is probably worth the upgrade. and if you willing to spend a little more on a modern staple Celestial Colonnade is the cheapest its ever been in the history of the game $3.5/$4 ish and definatly worth 2-3 of.
hope one or two of these suggestions help a little
8 months ago
Hey, what you have so far is a strong start at upgrading the precon for your first deck, nice Hammer of Nazahn upgrade.
Currently you need to cut 24 cards to get to 100 cards. Some advice is start with cutting some lands because 43 lands is too much. Reduce it to 36 and if you think you need more mana then add more low converted mana cost (CMC) ramp sources or draw sources instead of lands.
Some lands to consider cutting:
All these lands always enter the battlefield (ETB) tapped and you have other lands that always do this too, but those other lands are better than these.
The next cuts to consider are some high CMC cards to reduce the mana curve.
Further cuts are some cards that are not as good as others here or have similar or the same effects.
- Battle for Bretagard
- Fall of the Impostor
- Heirloom Blade
- Reflections of Littjara
- Skyclave Cleric Flip
- Captain's Claws
- Conclave Tribunal
- Moonsilver Spear
- Shielding Plax
- Tangled Florahedron Flip
- Suppression Field
Heirloom Blade and Reflections of Littjara are tribal cards that care about only one type of creature. That's not the strategy here since you have many different creature types. Skyclave Cleric Flip and Tangled Florahedron Flip are double face cards (DFC) that can be lands or played as the front face of the card and that can be helpful. The problem is the front face of the card is not worth playing even though they might be lands. Bala Ged Recovery Flip is an example of a good DFC upgrade since front face is a good card and the bonus is that could be a land.
Suppression Field is a powerful card, but it affects equipment equip costs since that's an activated ability. Even if you control Puresteel Paladin with metalcraft activated you still have to pay 2 mana to equip the equipment to a creature you control. Puresteel will reduce the equip cost to 0, but then Field makes you pay an additional 2 mana to activate the equip ability. If an equipment is in your hand and you cast it or already on the battlefield you can't free equip if you control Field.
You have ways to get around having to pay for equip with attach. Difference is you're not equipping when you attach an equipment to a creature you control. The key word here is attach which bypasses the need to activate equip. You can free attach an equipment with Galea, Kindler of Hope, Halvar, God of Battle Flip or Hammer of Nazahn. With Galea only if you cast an equipment from the top of your library, with Halvar only if the equipment is already equipped to another creature you control and with Hammer only if you cast the equipment or the equipment ETB. Free attach has synergy with Suppression Field, but the interaction is limited.
Good luck with your deck.
9 months ago
Just a heads up to start with, you marked this as standard, it should be marked as modern. Using cards from your maybe board, I’d say get rid of both Font of Vigor as it is simply not Avery good card (it’s expensive for what it does and straight life gain once isn’t too worth using the space,) and replace them with the Cleric Class and Dogged Pursuit in your maybe board. I would also get rid of the Drudge Skeletons and throw in the Kor Celebrant You may as well throw out a plains for the Skyclave Cleric Flip, and Dawnbringer Cleric’s removal is more useful than Soul Shepherd’s exiling for life.
1 year ago
I don't think it would be worth removing any spells from the deck for Skyclave Cleric Flip , but I think it could be worth it if you can replace some lands. Think of it more like a plains that enters tapped that will occasionally enter as a creature if you need it to. It's not a crazy card or anything, but I think it may be worth playtesting anyway.
1 year ago
gumbogogo, I completely missed/overlooked Righteous Valkyrie . One; it's easier to cast than Resplendent Marshal and two; it takes advantage of toughness lifegain with its buff and pairing with Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose . Skyclave Cleric Flip just wasn't something I was really considering, but I do see its merit over Dream Devourer and its synergy with other cards. I did have Agadeem's Awakening Flip in the first draft of this build, but didn't think it was all that necessary when trying to update it with Kaldheim.