Prossh, Skyraider of Kher

Legendary Creature — Dragon

Flying

When you cast Prossh, Skyraider of Kher, put X 0/1 red Kobold creature tokens named Kobolds of Kher Keep onto the battlefield, where X is the amount of mana spent to cast Prossh.

Sacrifice another creature: Prossh gets +1/+0 until end of turn.

Discussion (51)

IlGuale on Persist combo: in which colours ...

1 week ago

Tl;dr: i'd like to play a deck with a persist combo to trigger etb and ltb effects (or similar), but i don't know which is better between Abzan, Jund or WRGB.

Long version to contextualize: my first legendary creature ever was Teneb, the Harvester and i wanted to build something in its colours. Looking for something Abzan does better than others i found out that persist combo has a lot of pieces to work with in that wedge: green and white have a lot of persisting creature, some sacrifice outlet, some tutor and a lot of ways to give +1/+1 counter to creature entering the battlefield; black offers tutors, sacrifice outlets and ETB/LTB triggers. The problem is that abzan doesn't have exactly the best commanders ever. Teneb himself is more of a value oriented beefcake, Karador and Ghave are better in this role, but not exceptional and i'm not familiar with partners.

Jund, on the other side, trades all the nice counter sinergies of white ( Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit , Juniper Order Ranger , Good-Fortune Unicorn , Vizier of Remedies ) plus Corpse Knight and Cruel Celebrant , for the big bad Prossh, Skyraider of Kher and its cousin Korvold, Fae-Cursed King and everything they bring along such as Grumgully, the Generous and Murderous Redcap .

There's also the option of going WRBG, but it may be too greedy.

Has anyone experience with this kind of deck? If yes, what do you play? If not, what would you like to play? Thanks for your time.

Zike93 on

2 weeks ago

If I don’t discuss a card, it’s because that card didn’t feel like a card I’d want to play, or I didn’t think it was a viable commander. If I miss any really good options for my commander or leader, please let me know.

Adun Oakenshield TL?

Bartel Runeaxe

Darigaaz Reincarnated

Darigaaz, the Igniter

Gyrus, Waker of Corpses TL???

Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund

Korvold, Fae-Cursed King

Kresh the Bloodbraided

Prossh, Skyraider of Kher

Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper

Shattergang Brothers

Thantis, the Warweaver

Vaevictis Asmadi

Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire

Wasitora, Nekoru Queen

Xira Arien TL?

Honestly, looking through this list, most of these cards don’t appeal to me. That said, there were a few that could work if I really felt that I needed to go with Jund. First, Gyrus, Waker of Corpses is really interesting to me as a leader. I could use it as my commander, I guess, but it just isn’t that interesting as an effect to me. I want my commander to have more of an impact on the game than being big, and allowing me to reuse creatures for a turn. I like how it allows me to essentially dash in creatures from my graveyard, retriggering any enter the battlefield effects they may have, and another cool feature that Gyrus, Waker of Corpses has is that it doesn’t really lose value when I recast it from the command zone. I’d much rather spend 9 mana on an 9/9 than spend 12 mana on a 6/5 that’s only really worth 6 but I’m looking for a bit more in a commander, especially since I’ll probably be able to shuffle my graveyard into my library multiple times throughout the game. If I were to use a Jund commander, Gyrus, Waker of Corpses is there, but I know that there’s better commanders for me to choose from. As a leader, however, Gyrus, Waker of Corpses seems awesome. For one thing, he kind of breaks the 3 mana limit by having X in his cost, and bringing cards back from the graveyard is much more useful in a format that doesn’t have any Twilight's Call or Aphetto Dredging in it. For now, I think I’m going to move on, but I may come back to him later when I’m searching for my leader.

Kresh the Bloodbraided intrigues me. I can just imagine… Kresh the Bloodbraided is on the board. I also have a Dread Shade , and a Urabrask the Hidden out. My opponents have full boards with 4+ creatures each; the collective power of all my opponents’ creatures is something like 45. It’s my turn. I draw. GASP! In my hand, I now have Plague Wind . I cast it. SUDDENLY, all of my opponents’ creatures are gone except for one Seraph of the Suns (dang) and I have a 44/44 legendary human warrior, my 3/3 shade, and a praetor that makes all my opponents’ creatures enter tapped. Those are the kind of game-changing plays that I like. Kresh the Bloodbraided is definitely an interesting commander, but I really doubt that I’ll be using him, because besides Plague Wind and In Garruk's Wake , there aren’t any cards that really use him to his full potential. Unless there’s some way to destroy a lot of creatures in a short amount of time, he’ll never get very big, because a 10/10 is a threat that most players can kill and will kill before it becomes much bigger than that. So, Kresh the Bloodbraided just won’t be a very good commander 97.9% of the time (I calculated it) and, in the other 2.1% of games, I have the potential to dominate for a few turns until someone kills Kresh the Bloodbraided through literally any means other than damage, because Jund doesn’t have any decent counterspells besides Avoid Fate , and Regenerate isn’t a very good answer to Murder .

I like the sound of Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire , but without much mill in these colors (besides Altar of the Brood , Waste Not , and Dread Summons , but 3/99 cards isn’t enough to make a mill deck), I don’t see much of a reason to play it. Sure, if one of my opponents plays a Sensei's Divining Top , I can get rid of it and hope that they don’t draw their Paradox Engine , but aside from getting rid of douchey cards I don’t see much of a purpose in playing Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire .

This concludes my exploration of Jund commanders, and since the only options for a Jund leader, besides Gyrus, Waker of Corpses , are Adun Oakenshield and Xira Arien , I don’t think I’ll be using these colors unless I decide to use Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder as my commander, and Gyrus, Waker of Corpses as my leader.

Ayban017 on Korvold, Fae-Cursed King

3 weeks ago

Personally I think that if you want to make a Sacrifice deck you should consider changing the commander for Prossh, Skyraider of Kher and make it a more token focus. If you really want to play this commander then still consider adding more token generator so that when you sacrifice something it hurts less.

chadsansing on Smaug's Everlasting Avarice | Primer

1 month ago

Sweet list. Late to the party, but have you thought about something like Sprout Swarm or Presence of Gond or even Tendershoot Dryad to ensure you have tokens for the sac trigger? Prossh, Skyraider of Kher might also be helpful there. Zulaport Cutthroat and Blood Artist can help gain life back. Hardened Scales , Doubling Season , Pir, Imaginative Rascal , Reyhan, Last of the Abzan , Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest , Winding Constrictor , Corpsejack Menace , or something like Dictate of Erebos or Grave Pact might add value, as well.

Ch0ppah on [EDH] Need suggestions for Jund ...

1 month ago

I know what you're thinking. Voltron? In Jund? Why don't you just play Voltron like everyone else with Bruna, Light of Alabaster or Uril, the Miststalker ? And I must admit, you have a fair point. It'd be a lot easier. But i'm not one to take the easy way out. Helming my prospective deck will be Prossh, Skyraider of Kher for now. This is my first Voltron list, and I'm a little lost when it comes to what to throw into this deck. Suggestions can be anything from Jund/Prossh staples to anything that could help facilitate the voltron strategy. Thanks for the suggestions, and I wish you all well.

babydaggers on Sac-it-to-me! ~ Korvold EDH

1 month ago

This is great - I've got a Prossh, Skyraider of Kher deck that I may have to rejig as Korvold... if you can afford it, this deck is screaming for Doubling Season between the tokens, the +1/+1 counters on your commander, and your planeswalker package. I've also found that any sacrifice deck with red in it gets MASSIVE value from Vicious Shadows , evasion matters for your big man so think about adding either Rogue's Passage or Shizo, Death's Storehouse , and with your sacrifice volume you will be able to beat face with a Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest ...

Shabompistan on Kresh prefeered

1 month ago

Ideally you would not be sacrificing things until Kresh is out mid-game right? I don't really see it as an issue. I think there are more cards with decent reanimation built in that you could use: Squee, the Immortal , Squee, Goblin Nabob , Gutterbones , Endless Cockroaches

If you want something to do early game I always fall back on ramp. Jund has so many ramp options. I would suggest you swap all your mana rocks for mana dorks since you can get benefits if they die. I did this same thing with my Prossh, Skyraider of Kher deck, and found many different dorks: Deathcap Cultivator , Elves of Deep Shadow , Llanowar Elves , Elvish Mystic , Tinder Wall and many more.

Cheap ramp spells like Rampant Growth , Farseek , Nature's Lore

BMHKain on I thought about it. I'll ...

1 month ago

(CAUTION: A Huge List of CMDRS dead ahead. If you can't comply, remember that I apologized for the huge wall.)

Well, I was just told how to do a Folder, but to choose what for decks is another thing entirely. Especially if such decks are either:

A: What Everyone Plays B: Are good, but have since been outdated by a year C: Are Tribal Leaders in a Specific Sense (No Morophon, the Boundless please.) D: Not Underdog CMDRs. E: Other.

Let's Just assume we use that cEDH Deck Tier List One-by-One; but w/ a new rule for Playtesting such decks so none of the cEDH Decks win out of overall ratios ~100% of the time; CHANNELFIREBALL-style. That said, From using the Tier List, I require the following CMDR Decks to not have cEDH Level Power, but are these:

Tier 0:

Thrasios, Triton Hero & Tymna the Weaver Partners

Tier 1:

Kess, Dissident Mage

Kraum, Ludevic's Opus

Najeela, the Blade-Blossom

The First Sliver (Not as a Sliver Tribe Leader)

The Gitrog Monster

Urza, Lord High Artificer

Vial Smasher the Fierce

Yisan, the Wanderer Bard

Zur the Enchanter

(NOTE: Unknown if Kraum, Ludevic's Opus & Vial Smasher the Fierce need to be Parters to be of this level.)

Tier 2:

Animar, Soul of Elements (Morph Decks not allowed.)

Baral, Chief of Compliance (Get your Counterspells Ready!)

Brago, King Eternal

Breya, Etherium Shaper

Circu, Dimir Lobotomist

Derevi, Empyrial Tactician

Edric, Spymaster of Trest

General Tazri (Mandatory Ally Tribe Leader)

Ghave, Guru of Spores

God-Eternal Kefnet

Godo, Bandit Warlord

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim

Grand Arbiter Augustin IV

Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  ^Flip

Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge

Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain

Kykar, Wind's Fury

Meren of Clan Nel Toth

Mizzix of the Izmagnus

Momir Vig, Simic Visionary

Narset, Enlightened Master

Niv-Mizzet, Parun

Niv-Mizzet Reborn

Oona, Queen of the Fae

Prime Speaker Vannifar

Prossh, Skyraider of Kher

Ramos, Dragon Engine

Rashmi, Eternities Crafter

Scion of the Ur-Dragon (Possible Dragon Tribe Leader)

Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

Sidisi, Brood Tyrant

Sidisi, Undead Vizier

Sisay, Weatherlight Captain

Taigam, Ojutai Master

Tana, the Bloodsower

Tasigur, the Golden Fang

Teferi, Temporal Archmage

The Mimeoplasm

Varolz, the Scar-Striped

Xantcha, Sleeper Agent

Yarok, the Desecrated

Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder

Tier 3: WIP

But, yeah, you get the picture, right? Since I can't find such decks on my own to put in such a folder for decks worth testing against your own. Rules are as follows though:

1. It needs to be up to date, prior to the Iona, Shield of Emeria & Paradox Engine bans & Painter's Servant unbanning/CMDR 2019's release; or just not include any of those at all.

2. Each deck must not be of cEDH-level power; just imagine how much hell I'd have to playthrough against something just to beat a Thrasios/Tymna Partners deck just to have my claim on this notion nullified.

3. Decks must include CMDRs that are Popular, were Popular as well as Tribal Decks w/ Good Tribe Leaders (For example: The First Sliver & Sliver Queen do not fit this category where Sliver Overlord does fit the Sliver Tribe Leadership. Scion of the Ur-Dragon & The Ur-Dragon can both count as Dragon Tribe CMDRs. Atraxa, Praetors' Voice is actually a bad CMDR to use in Superfriends, but Shines in all Counter Life. Make good use of that instead of making a 4< Color Walkers Deck. The rulings go on...)

I know this is too much for now, but I'm making a folder for Playtesting w/ decks as everyone kept telling me to do so; now I want to hold my end of the Bargain. But I seriously need help from you to do this. If you can find any decks here to add to such a Folder, put it on the comments below.

(& no, It's not like it's a personal thing! Anyone is allowed to use it when it's finished!)