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| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
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| Casual | Legal |
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| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
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| Planechase | Legal |
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Karn Liberated
Planeswalker — Karn
+4: Target player exiles a card from their hand.
-3: Exile target permanent.
-14: Restart the game, leaving in exile all non-Aura permanent cards exiled with this. Then put those cards onto the battlefield under your control.
plakjekaas on Should There Be a Way …
2 months ago
You can remove aan emblem. Just use the -14 of Karn Liberated.
trippy_mcfly on
Cumly Cube
2 months ago
Introducing Cumly Cube 1.4! Two months ago, Cumly Cube was updated to Cumly Cube 1.3, which was touted as balanced and without any notable flaws. There is no more insidious poison than hubris! Many cards remained that were too strong, or close to unplayable. Many archetypes existed in the cube but had too little support to ever be worth drafting. Many cards failed to fit the ethos of Cumly Cube. With 89 more cuts and adds, I am now pleased to announce that, this time, Cumly Cube has reached a final form! Perhaps a few cards are still too strong, too weak, or out of place, but the vast majority of the draft pool is now in an acceptable state. Any further changes to Cumly Cube 1 will exist as minor updates, swapping out only a few cards at a time. This means that there will never be a Cumly Cube 1.5, only 1.4.1, 1.4.2, etc.
Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:
REMOVED:
ARTIFACT
- Basilisk Collar: equipment is not part of Cumly Cube 1
- Hedron Archive
: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
- Mox Diamond: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
- Mox Opal: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
- Mox Tantalite: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
- Sensei's Divining Top:cut to weaken the artifact archetype
CREATURE
- Academy Manufactor: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
- Archfiend of Spite: madness is not part of Cumly Cube 1
- Arsenal Thresher: too weak
- Augmenting Automaton: too weak
- Autonomous Assembler: Assembly-Workers have been cut from Cumly Cube 1
- Baleful Force: too weak
- Battleground Geist: cut for a better Spirit card
- Belligerent Hatchling: too weak
- Bloodpyre Elemental: too generic of a red card
- Bloom Hulk: there are better proliferate engines available in Cumly Cube
- Copperhorn Scout: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
- Crosis, the Purger: too annoying to play against
- Deathrite Shaman: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
- Deus of Calamity: too weak
- Dutiful Replicator: Assembly-Workers have been cut from Cumly Cube 1
- Dwynen's Elite: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
- Emperor's Vanguard: cut to weaken green
- Farhaven Elf: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
- Fear of Exposure: cut to weaken green
- Fertilid: cut to weaken green
- Galazeth Prismari: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
- Geyserfield Stalker: too weak
- Greater Gargadon: suspend is not part of Cumly Cube 1
- Hallowed Priest: cut for an identical card to support the Cat creature type
- Heedless One: cut for a similar card to better support the Elf creature type
- Hematite Golem: too weak
- Hunted Horror: too weak
- Impetuous Devils: too generic of a red card
- Jeskai Student: too weak
- Junktroller: too weak
- Lashweed Lurker: emerge is not part of Cumly Cube 1
- Llanowar Visionary: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
- Lodestone Golem: we have seen enough of this card in other formats
- Lunar Avenger: too weak
- Maze Behemoth: cut to weaken green
- Mishra's Self-Replicator: Assembly-Workers have been cut from Cumly Cube 1
- Morselhoarder: too weak
- Night Incarnate: too generic of a black card
- Omnath, Locus of the Roil: cut to weaken the Elemental creature type
- Phantom Nishoba: too weak
- Quirion Ranger: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
- Scalding Devil: cut to make room for more interesting Devil creatures
- Self-Assembler: Assembly-Workers have been cut from Cumly Cube 1
- Seton, Krosan Protector: cut to weaken green
- Soul of Zendikar: cut to weaken green
- Teferi's Sentinel: too weak
- Thought Monitor: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
- Torbran, Thane of Red Fell: too generic of a red card
- Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre: cut to make room for more balanced Eldrazi creatures
- Walking Ballista: cut to remove an infinite combo payoff accessible from the Cumly Zone
ENCHANTMENT
- Aura Shards: too powerful
- Blood Moon: we have seen enough of this card in other formats
- Impending Disaster: too weak
- In Bolas's Clutches: cut for a similar but more expensive version of this effect
- Night Soil: cut due to the presence of two other very similar cards
- Revel in Riches: too powerful
- Urban Utopia: cut to weaken green
LAND
- Ancient Tomb: too powerful
- Flagstones of Trokair: too weak
- Mishra's Workshop: too powerful
- Urza's Saga: too powerful
INSTANT
- Accelerate: too generic of a red card
- Bedevil: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
- Fading Hope: too generic of a blue card
- Fissure: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
- Fracture: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
- Frazzle: too generic of a blue card
- Inside Out: too weak
- Lens Flare: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
- Schismotivate: too weak
- Seize the Initiative: too weak
- Volt Charge: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
PLANESWALKER
- Karn Liberated: too generic and powerful of a draft pick
- Nissa of Shadowed Boughs: animating lands is not part of Cumly Cube 1
SORCERY
- Broken Bond: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
- Chain Reaction: too generic of a red card
- False Dawn: too weak
- Grim Tutor: too powerful
- Ice Storm: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
- Lava Flow: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
- Sinkhole: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
- Tezzeret's Gambit: too powerful
- Wildfire: too generic of a red card
ADDED:
ARTIFACT
- Banner of Kinship: encourages building around creature types
- Conduit of Worlds: supports graveyard synergies
- Pillar of Origins: encourages building around creature types
CREATURE
- Aetherjacket: supports the Thopter creature type
- Ajani's Pridemate: replaces Hallowed Priest to support the Cat creature type and lifegain synergies
- Akroan Conscriptor: supports spellslinger synergies
- Alibou, Ancient Witness: supports the Golem creature type and other artifact decks
- Ancient Cellarspawn: supports the Demon, Horror, and Nightmare creature types
- Angelic Aberration: supports the Angel and Eldrazi creature types
- Axgard Artisan: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Bloodwater Entity: supports spellslinger synergies
- Brass Herald: supports the Golem creature type and encourages building around creature types
- Campus Guide: supports the Golem creature type
- Chief of the Foundry: supports the Construct creature type and other artifact decks
- Chrome Courier: supports the Thopter creature type
- Cursed Wombat: supports the Nightmare creature type and +1/+1 counter decks
- Darksteel Colossus: supports the Golem creature type
- Duergar Hedge-Mage: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Eidolon of Blossoms: supports the enchantment archetype
- Endbringer: supports the Eldrazi creature type
- Essence Depleter: supports the Eldrazi creature type
- Gimli, Mournful Avenger: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Gishath, Sun's Avatar: supports the Dinosaur creature type
- Herald of Slaanesh: supports the Demon creature type
- Hunting Velociraptor: supports the Dinosaur creature type
- Immaculate Magistrate: replaces Heedless One to support the Elf creature type
- It That Heralds the End: supports the Eldrazi creature type
- Kozilek's Channeler: supports the Eldrazi creature type
- Mayhem Devil: supports the Devil creature type
- Patrician Geist: replaces Battleground Geist to support the Spirit creature type
- Petravark: supports the Beast creature type
- Pillardrop Warden: supports the Dwarf and Spirit creature types
- Precursor Golem: supports the Golem creature type
- Prosperous Pirates: supports the Pirate creature type
- Quandrix Pledgemage: supports the Merfolk creature type and spellslinger synergies
- Roaming Throne: supports the Golem creature type and encourages building around creature types
- Rootwater Hunter: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Shambling Suit: supports the Construct creature type and other artifact decks as well as enchantment decks
- Shantotto, Tactician Magician: supports the Dwarf creature type and spellslinger synergies
- Smokebraider: supports the Elemental creature type
- Solarion: supports the Construct creature type
- Species Specialist: encourages building around creature types
- Squealing Devil: supports the Devil creature type
- Tayam, Luminous Enigma: supports the Beast and Nightmare creature types
- The Balrog of Moria: supports the Demon creature type
- The Lady of Otaria: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Three Tree Mascot: adds mana fixing and encourages building around creature types
- Titans' Vanguard: supports the Eldrazi creature type
- Torch Fiend: supports the Devil creature type
- Ulamog's Dreadsire: supports the Eldrazi creature type
- Vengeful Devil: supports the Devil creature type
- Venomcrawler: supports the Demon creature type
- Wavecrash Triton: supports the Merfolk creature type and spellslinger synergies
- Zara, Renegade Recruiter: supports the Pirate creature type
ENCHANTMENT
- Destructive Flow: offers a land destruction engine that can provide a large advantage in some decks
- Efficient Construction: supports the Thopter creature type
- Keldon Twilight: offers a creature destruction engine for aggressive decks
- Lay Claim: replaces In Bolas's Clutches as a more expensive control spell
- Might Makes Right: encourages large creatures and can be used in conjunction with sacrifice synergies as a creature destruction engine
- Porphyry Nodes: offers a creature destruction engine for slower decks
- Retreat to Kazandu: supports landfall synergies
- Shivan Harvest: offers a land destruction engine and supports sacrifice synergies
- Sunken Hope: offers a creature bounce engine for slower decks
- Whirlwind of Thought: supports spellslinger synergies
LAND
- Foundry of the Consuls: supports the Thopter creature type
INSTANT
- Atarka's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Aura Mutation: quite similar to Artifact Mutation
- Brokers Confluence: confluences have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Cabaretti Confluence: confluences have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Dromoka's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Kolaghan's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Lorehold Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Maestros Charm: rounding out the charms in Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Maestros Confluence: confluences have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Obscura Charm: rounding out the charms in Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Obscura Confluence: confluences have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Ojutai's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Pulse of the Fields: supports lifegain synergies
- Quandrix Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Riveteers Charm: rounding out the charms in Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Silumgar's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Silverquill Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
- Siren's Ruse: supports the Pirate creature type and blink synergies
PLANESWALKER
- Saheeli, Filigree Master: supports the Thopter creature type
- Vraska, Golgari Queen: supports sacrifice synergies
SORCERY
- Renegade Tactics: replaces Accelerate as a less typical red card
- Roar of the Crowd: encourages building around creature types
- Temporary Insanity: stealing creatures is a small but important part of Cumly Cube
- Witherbloom Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
Profet93 on
millipede succer
1 year ago
Cut Voltaic Key - There are only like 4 rocks that go positive with it, you don't get much value of out it.
Cut Gravestorm - Nice repetitive draw but often times player's gy's are filled and this won't help mid-late game.
Cut Soul Stair Expedition and Epicure of Blood - There are much better cards to add
Cut Lotus Field + Lotus Vale - Anti synergy to coffers, one of the lotuses can be strip mined against. No synergy benefit for the deck. Swap them with either a Deserted Temple, Thespian's Stage, or more swamps. Should you wish, including a fetchland or 2 is a nice instant speed way to bring out bojuka bog. Moreover, Urborg allows you to keep your lands as swamps and then shuffle the deck with top should you not like your upcoming draws
Introduction to Annihilation - I know you need artifact/enchantment removal. Add in a Feed the Swarm and/or a Karn Liberated if it's really given you issues.
Bolas's Citadel + Aetherflux Reservoir + Sensei's Divining Top = Good times!
Some lower costed ramp to get your commander out more quickly such as Dark Ritual and Mind Stone are helpful
Imp's Mischief - "Counter" counterspells while redirecting targeted removal, draw and extra turns! Given your deck is commander reliant + Your lich enchantment, this can serve you very well.
legendofa on Karn Liberated
1 year ago
Not officially. Karn Liberated is not a legendary creature, and it doesn't have the "CARDNAME can be your commander." text that Aminatou, the Fateshifter and others have.
Still, if your group is okay with it, you might be able to "rule zero" it as a commander with permission. Commander is a very freeform format, and many playgroups allow commanders that wouldn't otherwise be allowed for the sake of fun.
MrHighscore on
Annihilate with Rocks
2 years ago
I'm still assembling the deck (expect the last pieces to be in my hands this week)
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- I like Mazemind Tome, but will need to playtest it before making a cut call on that. If that goes out, I'll probably replace it with Rise of the Eldrazi.
- Don't want to get rid of Karn Liberated. I like him, and I have a borderless version I want to see table time.
- Blinkmoth Well, does not seem that important to me. Arch of Orazca is for sure a cut candidate. Could make room for Sensei's Divining Top.
- Yeah, no change
- Not win more. Adds a nicely scaling ramp at X >7, would not be without it. Voltaic Key combo is just a bonus, but cutting it would reduce value of adding Voltaic Key in the first place.
- Not going to cut Rogue's Passage. I feel I owe the table (and myself) some way to make those Eldrazi count! But I may be able to drop lands, just not too happy about it
- Budget is not a real concern, and I do have a metalworker somewhere. I don't think it will add enough to the deck, as I want my artifacts on the table and not in hand.
- Drownyard Temple is for sure not important. Can also do without Sanctum of Eternity though.
- I can't really find a good use case for Rise of the Eldrazi. I do think Artisan of Kozilek carries its weight with Annihilator 2. But could be a valid swap. They are both candidates for swapping in ulamog, the ceasless hunger
I guess potential changes could be:
- Arch of Orazca -> Sensei's Divining Top (semi-mitigated by ability to dig for more lands)
- Drownyard Temple -> Voltaic Key (semi-mitigated by ability to generate mana with 2+ rocks)
- Tyrite Sanctum (or just give up on the Urza's lands) -> Blinkmoth Well
Other thoughts:
- I want to find room for a Dark Depths, just because Thespian's Stage, but deep down I know it's not feasible!
Cheers
legendofa on
infinite rats
2 years ago
I'm a little skeptical of the "remove anything" claim. doesn't go big into "destroy target permanent" or "exile target permanent," that's more and . The closest I can come up with after a few searches is Decimate, which is definitely powerful, but can be played around. Unless it's something like Scour from Existence, which is very mana-heavy and single-use, or Karn Liberated, which is the one I would worry about the most.
StopShot on I still don't understand why …
2 years ago
Caerwyn, technically speaking there is a way to remove emblems that every color has access to and it's through Karn Liberated's ultimate.
Personally, I'm okay with emblems only because the format has a lot of other effects that are just as impossible or impractical (Karn) to get rid of. Take for example Edgar Markov or Oloro, Ageless Ascetic which give you free effects just by existing in your command zone. You also have Theros gods who can exist soley as indestructible enchantments which aren't impossible to remove, but may require very inefficient forms of removal to get rid of them for many decks. Honestly, the fact this format can allow you to have an infinite combo piece as a commander such as The Gitrog Monster can be another gross example as the threat still remains no matter how much removal you throw at them.
Obviously non-interactable effects are very easy to make unbalanced, but I don't see Sorin, Lord of Innistrad as busted. In any game of EDH the sum of removal spells in all decks will be less than the sum of nonland permanents in all decks. There are always going to be nonland permanents that no one will ever get around to removing, because many other nonland permanents will take greater precedence to use removal spells on. Non-interactable effects should match the power level of these spared nonland permanents in my opinion. An Orcish Oriflamme is probably the last anthem effect you'd delete anyway if you're up against an anthem-tribal deck.
Profet93 on EDH - Kill 1 opponent …
2 years ago
"Logic" is nice, I value it tremendously over emotion and it has served me well in all areas of my life, except when dealing with emotional people.
Perhaps it's just me. But from experience, everyone always has some axe to grind against someone else, regardless if its justified or not. For example, the Muldrotha player at the point could aruge they are the lesser of 2 evils by killing the (enter more evil deck/commander here).
Everyone looks out for their own interests, everyone is gonna get mad one way or another. So rather than trying to justify it, I've learned to just give them the same shit back, should I be inclined. I've learned that people play MTG typically to relieve stress and have fun. When they dont have fun and you cause them more stress, they will intentionally or unintentionally let it out on you.
Also, at the risk of being TMI ... I once went to a new shop and was playing with this guy, call him "Bob." Being the new guy, I wanted to be friendly and got to talk to people about MTG and other stuff in their lives (jobs, hobbies, etc...). Bob got mad at me because I play more expensive decks and would always make offhand comments. For my most expensive deck, I ramped into a Gilded Lotus with Mishra's Workshop into a Karn Liberated in order to exile his Doubling Season for his atraxa deck. Solid plan right? 1v1 game, exiling his most important piece. He got up, gave me a death stare and left. Later that night, I had an associate of his come up to my place and threaten to kill my family. While I am/this situation is an outlier, it is important to remember the primary motivations behind this game. The fact that people get so mad over a game to the point they are willing to degrade their own character just to lower your own, or even worse, threaten violence, should not be forgotten, especially in these times
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