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Dack's Duplicate
Creature — Shapeshifter
You may have Dack's Duplicate enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield except it gains haste and dethrone. (Whenever it attacks the player with the most life or tied for most life, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
griffstick on Clone help!
2 years ago
Altered Ego, Spark Double, Stunt Double, Progenitor Mimic, Dack's Duplicate, Vesuvan Shapeshifter, Phyrexian Metamorph, Clever Impersonator, Sakashima's Student, Sakashima's Protege, Irenicus's Vile Duplication
Jabberjaw46 on Niv-Mizzet is your Superfriend!
2 years ago
not walkers, but still some cards to consider
Any 2 color clone just gives you another Niv Mizzet trigger
Dack's Duplicate, Evil Twin, Altered Ego
also
Soulherder and Mistmeadow Witch
more triggers= more walkers
Vallaris on Mizzet's Multiplicious Megalomania
3 years ago
This deck is utterly salt inducing hahahaha. It's so janky, there are barely any instants and sorceries, in a Niv deck of all things, but once the cloning really gets rolling, this thing turns into a mass removal engine with every card drawn.
I think this was the deck where you said Sprite Dragon didn't fit? You might like Dack's Duplicate since that has a clone effect.
Last_Laugh on Animar's Bouncing Friends Rev2
3 years ago
The main thing I'm seeing that this deck needs some work on is lowering your non-creature spells by a LOT and adding bounce enablers. Most Animar decks run less than 20 non-creatures and instead run similar effects on their creatures.
I.e. Glen Elendra Archmage, Draining Whelk and Stratus Dancer instead of most traditional counterspells.
Temur Sabertooth, Equilibrium, and Cloudstone Curio are 100% needed here. Curio is expensive but it's worth its weight in gold here.
Birds of Paradise, Wild Cantor, or many other mana dorks over Artifact and Spell ramp.
Other random suggestions: Walking Ballista is your most mana efficient finisher with Ancestral Statue. Vizier of the Menagerie is excellent draw on a damn good card. Shrieking Drake is a fairer version of Ancestral Statue. Clones like Dack's Duplicate, Stunt Double, etc. work great with land untappers like Great Whale and the others you already run.
Feel free to check out my list for ideas. It's not budget friendly but there's still budget cards to pick through. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Animar, Gaea's Hemorrhoid
ChickenBoy13 on Smashing 1000 faces (vial smasher/Sakashima)
3 years ago
Maybe you could add more clones? (Mirror Image, Clever Impersonator, Stunt Double, and/or Dack's Duplicate)
Nice deck btw.
chriscross25 on
4 years ago
My theft type of cards are there for a "controlly" way. Since those effects are on creatures i have the abilitiy to threaten the board of my opponents with them.
To River Kelpie: In my games i played this deck this card was one of the best cards. It is hard to remove even on its own because of it's ability. Also the cards you can draw with it is too much to value to cut it. Another reason i think it is quiet good is because it triggers on every player. Midnight Reaper and Nikara, Lair Scavenger are in my mind but i do not love their abilities since they are not a may trigger. What i experienced is that for me it works better when i can control my life. At the moment i think i have enough ways to control it to trigger dethrone everytime i need to. But still those two cards are good cards for this deck. Maybe in the future i reconsider them.
To Dack's Duplicate and the fork effects: I put them in because of the meta i play in. Also i really think those fork effects are a bit underrated in EDH because you often do not see them coming and are good for diffrent situations. I like them more than counterspells because they are more restrictive. For example you will not counter a ramp spell but to copy it when you need the ramp is great. But i fully understand why you will not consider them in your build but for me they worked very well. If you have not already maybe try one or two out if it works for you.
Twilight's Call: I think you are right there. It costs to much and you can lose too much. I think i was to blended by Living Death because that won me the game already. :D That is why i swaped it with more interaction (Swan Song).
Dictate of Erebos and Grave Pact: I considered them at the beginning of the deck but i do not need them really. When i want to clear the board i have other ways and also that is one reason why i put those theft effects in. I look more to Butcher of Malakir because i could protect it more and better than both entchantments. But for seven mana i think it is to high. Maybe as another win con i would put it in.
Lokotor on
4 years ago
I'm not exactly sure where you're taking your list. are you going for aristocrats? theft? control? it feels a bit spread out at the moment.
it might help to specifically pick one of those themes and go through the list and ask "how does this card contribute to that theme?"
A few cards i'm not sure make sense generally:
you have a lot of Fork effects. is there a particular reason why? if not you may want to consider some less situational cards.
you should probably replace River Kelpie with something like Midnight Reaper or Nikara, Lair Scavenger since they can come out 2-3 turns sooner and give the same effect more or less.
I personally feel Dack's Duplicate doesn't add much, but depending on your meta it might be a good fit.
I don't think Twilight's Call is a good card for you. Living Death is ok since it can be pretty one sided a lot of the time, but generally i've never found I am in great need for mass reanimation effects. I think between Reanimate and Victimize you'll have enough if you need it.
Grave Pact/Dictate of Erebos would probably be a big help for you.
you should also check out the marchesa subreddit and discord server
NoSoyYucateco on
4 years ago
This deck looks awesome! It looks super fun to play. I think you can tune it a bit more to make it more consistent, though.
I think the fog effects can be cut, personally. In exchange, I would add some more boardwipes, like Evacuation, Chain Reaction, and Anger of the Gods.
I also think some of the higher-costed instants and sorceries can go, such as Steam Augury, Storm Seeker, Prophetic Bolt, Spiraling Embers, and Time Reversal. I think all of these cards are outclassed by cards that either cost less, or do more for a comparable cost.
If you like dealing non-combat damage, I love Price of Progress. It is cheap, affects everyone, and Riku usually can rely on basic lands.
Maybe consider adding more copy effects like Twincast, Narset's Reversal, Refuse / Cooperate, Clever Impersonator, Phantasmal Image, Dack's Duplicate, etc...? I like the versatility of these cards in that they mirror the table. Nobody can complain that you are playing something strong when you are just copying your opponents!
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