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Fair amount of play. —July 25, 2012
So, I've been playing the deck a decent amount and it has performed well in more or less every matchup I've gone through, which is quite encouraging, most of the times were spread out so I don't remember loads of specifics, but, U/R Delver, Craterhoof Elves, mono-black Zombies and a few other decks have lost to this deck. I just swapped Divine Deflection for Bonfire of the Damned to give it a shot. I have high hopes for that. Thinking about trying out a few other things, we shall have to see.
Inquisitor's Flail is much better on a creature that can't be blocked, otherwise it's a death sentence. Sure I'll block your 2/2 with my 1/1. We'll trade creatures, but not in your favor.
Silver-Inlaid Dagger is much better priced, no drawbacks, and pretty much does the same thing for you because most of your creatures are 3 power or less anyway and that's all you'd gain from the flail anyway.
That being said. I like the idea of taking the G/W INN/DKA Humans shell and swapping all the green humans to red humans. And let your strength come from tokens. Because a single cast of Kessig Malcontents off the back of your Cavern of Souls is a win condition in itself.
So, with that in mind. I like all your little drop humans. Doomed Traveler, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Fervent Cathar, Somberwald Vigilante, Increasing Devotion, Thatcher Revolt... See what I mean. Fifth turn, you've got 6-8 humans, you've already pounded them for 10-12, cast a Battle Hymn, swing, second main cast Kessig Malcontents. BAM!!!
May 20, 2012 2:29 p.m.
I had becomes Wildblood Pack then the flail will give much greater returns off of anything bonded to Silverblade Paladin or Terror of Kruin Pass. The other issue with the dagger is that the werewolves I mentioned don't have Human as a type when flipped making it slightly less good. I can certainly see you're points about it though and I will definitely keep that in mind.
I haven't had an opportunity to test this out yet so I'm going to avoid making significant alterations to the decklist until I can. Barring something beyond phenomenal of course. Thanks for the suggestions!
May 21, 2012 3:02 p.m.
I was attempting to find a way around the very strong Boros humans and after much thought and research found Torpor Orb and Witchbane Orb. And the always popular Ratchet Bomb will mess with your tokens.
So I had written that in relation to your sideboard, and then saw your sideboarded Manic Vandal. Kudos.
May 21, 2012 9:08 p.m.
I think you should find a spot for the ultimate Boros angel. Move over Razia, here comes your less expensive and more wacky sister Gisela, Blade of Goldnight!
I think that 4x Cloudshifts is too many. You're aiming for your Kessig Malcontents mostly, occasionally whatever Zealous Conscripts bring over... I think main-boarding some Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Riders of Gavony and running 2x Cloudshift would generally be all you need. You're protecting your humans more with Thalia or the Riders to maximize your Malcontents more.
Just my 2.5 cents.
May 23, 2012 10:56 p.m.
The card:Butcher's Cleaver idea is likely a sound one. I'll tweak it and slap those in instead. I also have been thinking of throwing in a Gisela, Blade of Goldnight as a one of for the awesome and extreme times that could come of it.
In regards to the Cloudshift s I feel that four of them is actually better than it may seem. If I have four mana and a Fiend Hunter and a Cloudshift in my hand I can permanently exile a creature along with the creature he will naturally hold down after he re-enters the battlefield. It lets me dodge any instant speed removal, lets me reset Soulbond on the Silverblade Paladin s, and lets me get more counters on my Champion of the Parish es in addition to the things you mentioned.
Your point about mainboarding Thalia, Guardian of Thraben or Riders of Gavony is entirely fair. I had actually had the Riders in the mainboard until someone suggested I move them out. If I were going to mainboard them, in lieu of removing Cloudshift , what would you suggest?
Thanks for your suggestions, they are greatly appreciated!
May 24, 2012 11:12 a.m.
May 24, 2012 3:07 p.m.
That is a pretty snazzy idea. I may just give that a shot.
May 24, 2012 3:30 p.m.
With Riders of Gavony , how often do you go up against tribal decks? It's a decent 3/3 vigilance at four, so I like it even if you can't find a really good tribe to protect against. I like the idea that you can chump block a titan with them out, and not even lose your creatures though. That's no small feat.
May 24, 2012 3:49 p.m.
While it is true that barring Humans as a fairly common type there isn't a whole lot of shared typing there is still a fair bit of overlay with decks frequently having multiples of Warriors, Druids, Wolves, Spirits, and that sort of thing. Even if I can only neuter half of their attackers and blockers accomplishing that and getting a 3/3 Vigilance out of the bargain seems pretty good to me.
Examples of influential creatures sharing a type:
May 24, 2012 4:39 p.m.
Good call. And that was an honest question. I've only just recently decided to jump into standard. And I'm definitely a fan of the Riders of Gavony , took me to a top eight finish at the prerelease.
May 24, 2012 9:07 p.m.
dont forget, with Riders of Gavony you can name giant and protect yourself from some red green ramp deck titan combos (at least a smidgen)
May 25, 2012 9:45 a.m.
That is indeed helpful. If I name Giant Inferno Titan can only bolt me with its ability and its firebreathing is useless. haha
The area I've played with the most has mostly used tribal spirits and tribal werewolves if they went for that sort of thing.
May 25, 2012 9:52 a.m.
i did a fast 3 round playtesting vs your deck with my delver deck:
I knew i had a hard matchup, cuz i tend to strugle vs the faster decks.
we raced, you won. final score 0-4.. not much to say about this game, your deck is just faster than mine.
score ended 0-2, and i feel i got lucky.
I might aswell not have been here. Everytime i pulled a sorcery or an instant, my delver was exiled. You mulliganed to 5, but your draws was perfect, and i never got anything done. Its funny, cuz this was the round i was shure i would win, when i looked at your starting hand.
that was instant death since i was @ 11 life and you had 2 human tokens on the table.
final score 19-0.
this is the first out of 5 decks i have playtested against tonight i havent rolled over, just thought it was worth mentioning.
i know white/red humans are a hard matchup for me, and if anyone have any ideas on how to improove my gameplay vs decks like this, i would be very happy to hear them... im gonna try Torpor Orb in the sideboard, as ''MyRevival'' talked about, but i dont think it will do the trick tbh.
3 card:Faith's Shield seems like alot to me, i might cut 1, but thats proberly the only thing i would change in this deck.
sry for bad gramma, and thx for the beating.
May 25, 2012 5:31 p.m.
The other strong tool against decks like this is Day of Judgment . But yeah, other than that, the Boros Human archetype just has a way of beating up control decks and taking their lunch money.
May 25, 2012 10:47 p.m.
why not mirran crusader for anti zombie and werewolf or primeval plus double strikeinstagator gang could be switched out with it
May 27, 2012 7:35 p.m.
i just play tested your deck against my red white humans deck and in every game you didn't play anything until turn three and i beat you by turn 5 each time. you should add in more one drops and take out the fervent cathar and the riders of gavony for more beatdown. i suggest a pillar of flame for more removal.
May 27, 2012 7:55 p.m.
@Dirt3pz Thanks for the play-test. I definitely appreciate it. My top suggestion for ways to deal with this deck is basically to sideboard in more spot removal than might seem reasonable at first. Most of my creatures are at least equivalently costed with most removal so after not so very long you will have a boat load of instants and such to pump up your card:Runechanter's Pikes and I'll be about out of steam. Obviously it isn't perfect as I have Cloudshift s but I would prefer to use them on Kessig Malcontents and the like rather than having to drop them on every creature I play. Just my two cents, thanks again!
@cver Eh, I don't have Fervent Cathar in the deck. Also, while I'm not impuning your deck's strength if I didn't play a single Champion of the Parish or Gather the Townsfolk or Lightning Mauler until turn three then I am going to go with some freakishly bad luck on my deck's half. Also, I already have three Pillar of Flame s in the deck. Thanks for the advice though, I appreciate it.
June 2, 2012 1 a.m.
@cver Oh, I also don't have Mirran Crusader in here as I am trying not to include any Scars of Mirrodin goodies even though I would like to. The major potential exception is Hero of Oxid Ridge as I already own a full playset of him.
June 2, 2012 1:04 a.m.
Add a Silverblade Paladin
please check out and +1 my standard deck
June 2, 2012 8:15 p.m.
you should add more lightning maulers and doomed travelers and maybe less strongholds i've found that there very hard to use cus your spending mana on getting lots of guys out early and by the time its late game you shouldn't be still paying if its actually a good aggro. so may be only 2 of. Cool deck though +1
June 4, 2012 12:59 p.m.
June 6, 2012 1:53 p.m.
I'm trying not to dilute the Human tribal aspect in relation to their interaction with Kessig Malcontents which is why I haven't added Hellrider . I do have a full playset of Hero of Oxid Ridge which I could include though. Anyone else have any ideas on the matter?
June 7, 2012 9:42 p.m.
This deck is insane. Usually (hypothetical) turn 3-4 kills, only thing I'd really change would be Pillar of Flame(you said no Scars, so maybe Forge Devil/Bonfire/Thunderbolt), and Butcher's Cleaver for bladed bracers(Tormetor's Trident if I was feeling lucky).
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June 7, 2012 11:19 p.m.
it's a shame you can't equip card:Butcher's Cleaver to the Kessig Malcontents in response to it's trigger! Brass Squire , anyone? xD i absolutely love the deck. i feel like i've never once seen card:Slayers' Stronghold, and will begin using that in my builds asap :P i know the hardest thing to balance with an aggro deck like this is maintaining presence if you get forced into late game, and that's what i love about card:Butcher's Cleaver. Nearheath Pilgrim should be seriously considered for mainboard, imho; that guy does wonders. maybe -1 Cloudshift , potentially one other thing? even -1 land might be permissable, with a low curve like this, for +2 Nearheath Pilgrim in the main. just my two cents, seriously try it out, even if all he does is chump block T2 after pumping your Champion of the Parish , you net 2 life and kill an attacker! seems good to me ;) +1 fo sho