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|2012 Core Set (M12)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Common|
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Creature — Human Warrior
When Manic Vandal enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact.
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Manic Vandal Discussion
3 months ago
Hello! I love to see how you are updating the list and our versions are kind becoming more different. I start to feel like i have my own deck instead of just a copy and it's quite great :D i'm also glad to have been able to help you improve your list!
Some coments about stuff you said that called my attention:
1) I've been consistently and surprisingly impressed by Lightning Bolt! Acts like a doom blade most of the time, instant speed is huge, and the fact that can hit walkers is the best. I've noticed there's not much efficient red removal that hits walkers! I wish they printed something like a Flame Slash that can hit walkers too, and the lack of it is what's keeping me out of Mizzium Mortars, it's sorcery and doesn't kill walkers. I'm gonna stick to bolt for now, and i can't honestly believe i'm defending that card in edh multiplayer xd
2) I also like Rolling Earthquake despite it not hitting walkers cause it's the most efficient X damage boardwipe that there is, and i love the fact that hits players. It's a fireball, can end the game on the spot, or can help take out problematic opponents. The alternative i was considering for an effect like that was Comet Storm, but for now i'm sticking with the earthquake until further testing.
3) I'm very curious to hear how Tilonalli's Summoner goes for you. To me that card has always looked like a win-more thing or a bad Tempt with Vengeance, but i'm willing to be proven wrong. Pia Nalaar looks good to me cause it's very consistent value (i always loved her activated abilities) and the fact that thopters seems to be grenzo's best friends.
I'm still a bit on defense about Legion Warboss. I like from the rabblemaster that he can pull out a shitton of damage on its own. I'm gonna be playing warboss in standard so i'm waiting to get some general experience with the card before i put it in.
Furthermore Experimental Frenzy looks really good and something i wanna test after i get some games with Stolen Strategy. I feel it's mostly an enabler for strategies that want to be super proactive at some point, and i'm not sure it fits ours as we wanna be very controlling and oportunistic at times. I'm also not sure we have as much ways to do things with the cards that get stuck in our hand. The fact however that you can just destroy it when it stops being good is what makes it worth the shot, so i'll be testing it at some point, probably after i get the chance to see it playing a bit in standard too.
5) I forgot to mention last time, but i was also considering taking off Insurrection for Molten Primordial. The cealing of the primordial is lower, as he steals less stuff, but i like that he offers more consistent value and gives you a big body you can keep, which make it better than insurrection against spell-based decks.
Now that i have more time i'll work on putting my version on tappedout with a bunch of anotations for these specific cards that are different from your take on the deck, and i will link your version so people can see the basic explanation of the concept, general card choices and your videos. We will have a nice place going on for people wanting to make a strong Grenzo list, which is exciting!
9 months ago
But, i was actually worrying about some enchantment/artifact removals that I could put in the deck that have a nice synergy. Something in the lines of Manic Vandal for the etb. Perhaps an Rakdos Charm for the grave hate as well...
9 months ago
You definitely need more card draw Elemental Bond, Mouth / Feed, Skullclamp, Deathreap Ritual and Culling Dais would be my card engines of choice. With eight of them in the deck you should be able to have one most of the time.
1 year ago
Why Manic Vandal over Tuktuk Scrapper? I see it is 1 CMC less, but if you ran 4x Goblin Warchief like most legacy decks you could easily drop for 1-3 mana in most games, or just Vial it in. Plus, it won't go to the bottom of your deck with a ringleader drop pull.
Krenko, Mob Boss is a 1x staple for most decks now.
You don't see many decks in this format running Warren Instigator since it an RR and there are much rougher choices for a 2 drop for goblins I think like Mogg War Marshal, or obviously Goblin Piledriver.
I agree with the above comment that Goblin Grenade is not good in legacy. I do however, think a 1x Legion Loyalist is worth it to give your other goblins great buffs as a 1 drop, especially piledrivers.
Boggart Mob can get pretty out of control and lets you retrigger matrons and ringleaders with a sac mechanism like Goblin Sledder or as most decks run, 1x Skirk Prospector. This isn't a popular choice, but worth considering. I run it in my RB goblin deck, but thats for casual. The champion effect of Lightning Crafter has the same retrigger potential.
Frogtosser Banneret could help you reduce costs of some of your goblins just like a Goblin Warchief, but you have neither. I think these are important for tribal goblins (most run warchief over frogtosser for the haste/monored).
1-2x Ancient Tomb seems to have dropped off most top8 decklists, but I like running 2 in mine. I run Food Chain Goblins and dirty kitty though, so my mechanic is different (and more vulnerable, but faster) than vial gobs.
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is nuts.
As for the sideboard, many people like running Krosan Grip if they splash with green. Also consider Thoughtseize. I also think that Blood Moon like stated above is great for MONORED in the sideboard if you choose to drop black. I think a 1x Goblin King is nice in the sideboard as well. Red Elemental Blast might help in the side as well.
1 year ago
I think a reclamation sage or even a Manic Vandal type dino would be very on flavor.
We already have Deathgorge Scavenger doing great things against graveyards so I don't know that wed see the angel ability. But thanks to that card its on flavor for sure.
Flavorwise I don't think Mindclaw fits at all. Love the card but it just can't see a dinosaur involved in spell casting.
In my head Dinosaurs are beasts. They aren't magic really in any way so most of the things they can and will do will be built around combat and buffs etc. I would love to see them go after the minor lifegain theme they have going bringing in something like Ravenous Baloth type effect. They also need a strong way to close out games. Gishath is great but I still think an etb Overrun esque effect would be awesome to have on a dino like Pathbreaker Ibex. Really just more faux Lords that grant abilities and such like Bellowing Tanglewurm.
My favorite green card has always been Eternal Witness and while i don't think it makes a ton of sense I would love that type of effect on a dino, even if it cost more for a bigger body like Greenwarden of Murasa.
Also a large flier that can hold its own against the usual suspects in commander like Steel Hellkite would be a great addition.
1 year ago
I like Urborg, but unless youre needing a lot of black mana or benefit from swamps for some reason (swampwalk and Cabal Coffers come to mind) then the budget could be better spent elsewhere. Having your tainted lands function as duals is a nice upside though.
I see what you mean with Oona's Blackguard and your guys not getting through. Its the challenge for any midrange/aggro deck in this format. I like the Nightblade for the same reason, your guys become much more difficult to block, so they get through more. Hmm...
As far as dealing with those artifact and enchantments, the best solution Grixis has for them is bounce. I like stuff like Dinrova Horror. There are lots of red Manic Vandal effects that you could use to Smash artifacts, or you could just Clone their etb effect guys that blow up enchantments, but thats not super reliable, even if thats a common enough strategy lol.
1 year ago
Here is a list of budget cards I think you should consider:
Here are some cards that has a little more value:
Another thing I noticed you are lacking is card draw, here is some suggestions:
1 year ago
I have an Alesha deck too, but it's more focused on combo rather than reanimating. If you're interested, the combo is Murderous Redcap + Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit/Vizier of Remedies/Cathars' Crusade + any sac outlet.
For general suggestions, I'd recommend using any creature with the <2 power with an EtB effect. Manic Vandal, War Priest of Thune, Duergar Hedge-Mage, and Avalanche Riders are all cards that destroy something, doubling as reccuring removal. I'd also recommend more efficient removal, like Swords to Plowshares, Anguished Unmaking, Terminate, Wear / Tear and Path to Exile (if it's not too expensive for you). Also board wipes to deal with board states that you dislike, such as Retribution of the Meek (once again, if you can afford it) and Dusk / Dawn.
Other general suggestions are more ramp like the signets, and looting effects like the properly-named Faithless Looting, Reforge the Soul, Cathartic Reunion, and Tormenting Voice. These cards all supply draw power to the deck, which is much needed.
I know this is a lot to talk win, but if you want me to help you out with cuts, feel free to ask! Hope this helps!