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|2012 Core Set (M12)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Common|
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Creature — Human Warrior
When Manic Vandal enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact.
Manic Vandal Discussion
3 weeks ago
How do you deal with enchantments? Ever considered nev disk or o-stone? Maybe even Ugin or Karn Liberated?
Volcanic Offering offers you so much value and politics in 1 card.
I used to run tuk-tuk but I replaced him for Manic Vandal . Comes down more quickly and the lifeloss is negligible.
3 months ago
I forgot to mention Shadowblood Ridge if your vampires have BR in their costs. To keep synergy, Manic Vandal could go out for some more vampires or a Painful Truths . Some of the advantages of playing Vampires is that many of them are really cheap to acquire.
5 months ago
Hi aarnok! I'm not familiar with how to reply to you on my deck thread, or if you'd be notified, so I figured I'd try sending you a comment this way to see if it works.
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions! Here's some insight as to my process:
Sword of the Animist is definitely a bit of a corner case inclusion, but I've gotten plenty of value from it. If my Feldon is on the field and has no targets in graveyard, at least he can get me some lands by swinging away. Plus I've got plenty of low CMC creatures that can be equipped and ramp me some land. It's performed well in all the games I've seen it!
Liquimetal Coating is bonkers with things like Ingot Chewer and Manic Vandal . It turns Feldon activations into "destroy any permanent". I've used it to take out Gaea's Cradle , Kozilek, Butcher of Truth and even planeswalkers. It's fantastic.
Chandra, Flamecaller is used exclusively for the 0 effect. Dumping my hand and drawing a new one plus one is fantastic and desirable since I'm often dumping a ton of threats for Feldon to activate or a bunch of cards I don't need. Yeah, she costs 6 but it's not a huge problem most games.
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded is absolutely a bad card. I run it for the fun of it. I'd definitely say Sarkhan is better in all cases and may consider adding him in addition, but Tibalt is just a fun pet card that I enjoy. :)
Nahiri's Wrath is a newer inclusion but I have it in the deck as an alternate way to pitch big dragons and other buff creatures to the graveyard. It's removal and a discard outlet in one. It's tested adequately thus far, but it's definitely closer to the "gonna get replaced soon" side of things at the moment.
Rowdy Crew is a sleeper hit. Discard effects on creatures is great as Feldon can recur them to keep fueling the graveyard more and more!
I used to run Gauntlet of Power and Caged Sun but removed them to tone the deck back a bit as it was getting a little too powerful. I tone a lot of my decks to match my meta which is pretty casual, so sometimes I sacrifice some super-powerful cards for the betterment of the group. GoP was why I had so many basics, but you're right - I could do to add a few more nonbasics.
Goblin Engineer and Drakuseth, Maw of Flames are both on my "to buy" list. Hazoret's Monument is a great idea and I'm not sure why I'm not running it already, thanks! Endless Atlas seems cool too! Warstorm Surge is definitely powerful but it's another card that was sacrificed for playgroup purposes. The deck is already quite strong, and Surge is a bit "win-more" in my opinion. Godo, Bandit Warlord isn't a bad idea either but I only have four legal targets in the deck. Sure, grabbing Illusionist's Bracers would be slick but getting Boots or Greaves would feel underwhelming for the cost.
Worldgorger Dragon seems super interesting as some insurance to protect against board wipes (though the delayed trigger getting Stifle 'd would feel really bad), but I'm not sure how much else we could really abuse him since all my creatures would get summoning sickness again. It would untap my lands so if I had something like Hanweir Battlements in play I could give Feldon haste and use his effect again, but I just don't know that I run enough instants / flash stuff to warrant it. I'll have to consider trying him out.
Thanks a ton! I'll take a look at your list and let you know any feedback there!
7 months ago
Ooo, i think flickering could be good. Twinflame seems good with feather.
1 year ago
Hello! I love to see how you are updating the list and our versions are kind becoming more different. I start to feel like i have my own deck instead of just a copy and it's quite great :D i'm also glad to have been able to help you improve your list!
Some coments about stuff you said that called my attention:
1) I've been consistently and surprisingly impressed by Lightning Bolt! Acts like a doom blade most of the time, instant speed is huge, and the fact that can hit walkers is the best. I've noticed there's not much efficient red removal that hits walkers! I wish they printed something like a Flame Slash that can hit walkers too, and the lack of it is what's keeping me out of Mizzium Mortars, it's sorcery and doesn't kill walkers. I'm gonna stick to bolt for now, and i can't honestly believe i'm defending that card in edh multiplayer xd
2) I also like Rolling Earthquake despite it not hitting walkers cause it's the most efficient X damage boardwipe that there is, and i love the fact that hits players. It's a fireball, can end the game on the spot, or can help take out problematic opponents. The alternative i was considering for an effect like that was Comet Storm, but for now i'm sticking with the earthquake until further testing.
3) I'm very curious to hear how Tilonalli's Summoner goes for you. To me that card has always looked like a win-more thing or a bad Tempt with Vengeance, but i'm willing to be proven wrong. Pia Nalaar looks good to me cause it's very consistent value (i always loved her activated abilities) and the fact that thopters seems to be grenzo's best friends.
I'm still a bit on defense about Legion Warboss. I like from the rabblemaster that he can pull out a shitton of damage on its own. I'm gonna be playing warboss in standard so i'm waiting to get some general experience with the card before i put it in.
Furthermore Experimental Frenzy looks really good and something i wanna test after i get some games with Stolen Strategy. I feel it's mostly an enabler for strategies that want to be super proactive at some point, and i'm not sure it fits ours as we wanna be very controlling and oportunistic at times. I'm also not sure we have as much ways to do things with the cards that get stuck in our hand. The fact however that you can just destroy it when it stops being good is what makes it worth the shot, so i'll be testing it at some point, probably after i get the chance to see it playing a bit in standard too.
5) I forgot to mention last time, but i was also considering taking off Insurrection for Molten Primordial. The cealing of the primordial is lower, as he steals less stuff, but i like that he offers more consistent value and gives you a big body you can keep, which make it better than insurrection against spell-based decks.
Now that i have more time i'll work on putting my version on tappedout with a bunch of anotations for these specific cards that are different from your take on the deck, and i will link your version so people can see the basic explanation of the concept, general card choices and your videos. We will have a nice place going on for people wanting to make a strong Grenzo list, which is exciting!
1 year ago
But, i was actually worrying about some enchantment/artifact removals that I could put in the deck that have a nice synergy. Something in the lines of Manic Vandal for the etb. Perhaps an Rakdos Charm for the grave hate as well...
1 year ago
You definitely need more card draw Elemental Bond, Mouth / Feed, Skullclamp, Deathreap Ritual and Culling Dais would be my card engines of choice. With eight of them in the deck you should be able to have one most of the time.
2 years ago
Why Manic Vandal over Tuktuk Scrapper? I see it is 1 CMC less, but if you ran 4x Goblin Warchief like most legacy decks you could easily drop for 1-3 mana in most games, or just Vial it in. Plus, it won't go to the bottom of your deck with a ringleader drop pull.
Krenko, Mob Boss is a 1x staple for most decks now.
You don't see many decks in this format running Warren Instigator since it an RR and there are much rougher choices for a 2 drop for goblins I think like Mogg War Marshal, or obviously Goblin Piledriver.
I agree with the above comment that Goblin Grenade is not good in legacy. I do however, think a 1x Legion Loyalist is worth it to give your other goblins great buffs as a 1 drop, especially piledrivers.
Boggart Mob can get pretty out of control and lets you retrigger matrons and ringleaders with a sac mechanism like Goblin Sledder or as most decks run, 1x Skirk Prospector. This isn't a popular choice, but worth considering. I run it in my RB goblin deck, but thats for casual. The champion effect of Lightning Crafter has the same retrigger potential.
Frogtosser Banneret could help you reduce costs of some of your goblins just like a Goblin Warchief, but you have neither. I think these are important for tribal goblins (most run warchief over frogtosser for the haste/monored).
1-2x Ancient Tomb seems to have dropped off most top8 decklists, but I like running 2 in mine. I run Food Chain Goblins and dirty kitty though, so my mechanic is different (and more vulnerable, but faster) than vial gobs.
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is nuts.
As for the sideboard, many people like running Krosan Grip if they splash with green. Also consider Thoughtseize. I also think that Blood Moon like stated above is great for MONORED in the sideboard if you choose to drop black. I think a 1x Goblin King is nice in the sideboard as well. Red Elemental Blast might help in the side as well.
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