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Creature — Goblin Wizard
Tap: You may put a Goblin permanent card from your hand into play.
(Red): Target Goblin gains protection from white until end of turn.
Goblin Wizard Discussion
4 months ago
Finally got some time to sit down and work through upgrades, and I am pretty happy with how it went.
Goblin War Party in for Beetleback Chief . I've never been that happy with ol' BBC (huehuehue) or Siege-Gang Commander for that matter. Maybe if I could recur them or capitalize on their ETB effects, but without that ability they are just costly token generators. I like the modality of War Party, and is a tiny mana sink too, which is nice.
Goblin Wizard in for Tears of Rage . Tears has been a flex slot for a while, and after Ashen0ne commented about it recently, it's really gotten me excited about the Wizard again, now that my deck works significantly better than it did when I first used him (~2 years ago).
Jaya, Venerated Firemage in for Outpost Siege . This is just a test, and Siege I've never gotten a lot of value out of. I don't normally like planeswalkers because they get hated out so quickly in my playgroup, but this is a pretty low-to-the-ground one that might stick a little easier since it doesn't have an ultimate.
Pashalik Mons in for Goblin Assassin . I love Assassin, and the flavor is hilarious and fitting for this deck, but politically I can't handle running it in my playgroup. I'm taking it out now for the same reason I did a year or so ago, people hate flipping coins or rolling dice to see if their creatures die, and when they have to do it for every Goblin I make they hate it even more, which gets me focused more than I like.
Still considering Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin , but I'm trying to make sure he doesn't suffer from Goblin Piledriver Syndrome, which is that in my deck it is only good when Ib isn't out, and Ib is out pretty frequently. The fact that Krenko is worth at least 3 bodies may make him fit sort of what was the Beetleback Chief slot, with the potential that he gets better the longer he stays. Maybe I will test him before Goblin War Party just to see.
4 months ago
Thank you for the suggestions and for the +1.
Fortunately I got my Goblin Wizard when it was $6. I have been casually playing for a while but I am a novice just starting to understand how to play. I was looking at the Goblin Wizard yesterday and thinking, I can use this to put Krenko onto the battlefield just before I am passed the turn. That would pretty sweet.
I know I have a Raid Bombardment . I’ll give it a go.
I saw on your thread the reaction to Pashalik Mons. I agree and I am definitely going to get my hands on one.
4 months ago
So I got to playtest and play with a few of the changes I made last night.
First thing's first: Experimental Frenzy , Ghirapur Orrery , and Gauntlet of Power out on the field together is absolutely nuts. Also had a Madblind Mountain for when I hit my third land like 8 cards down. Absolutely swimming in mana. I wasn't expecting Experimental Frenzy to perform as well as it did, even if I didn't have the Gauntlet it would still have been potent. Damping Engine resoundingly out for Mana Web . Sure, it was nice having the Engine to slow my opponents down a tad, and sac a mountain so that I could just Crucible of Worlds it right back, but I really would have preferred the Web when playing against Baral, Chief of Compliance . I took out Mycosynth Lattice , Goblin Welder , Treasure Nabber , Hellkite Tyrant , and Spine of Ish Sah , and didn't feel their presence missing at all. Shared Animosity was immediately removed by Ashen Rider
How do you feel about Chandra, Torch of Defiance ? I also really want to make a spot for Goblin Wizard but my deck is really starting to compete for spots, I don't feel like there are any dead cards 99% of the time, and I probably don't need him anyway.
4 months ago
Also, I really like the Goblin Wizard include. I can't believe it's $30 now! It was $6 the last time I used it, and I wanted to try it again!
5 months ago
You might like Lightning Crafter If you have a sac outlet then it is an damage combo with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker . You champion a goblin that isnt Kiki-Jiki and then tap kiki to make a token copy of Lightning crafter using the token to champion kiki instead. The token has haste so you can use it to deal 3 damage. Then sac the token to return kiki back to the battlefield. and repeat process. I use it in my Krenko deck and it has won me most of my games as it is more consistent than the untap make more goblins type cards. Another one that is more expensive but I use it cause I got lucky and got it when it was cheap is Goblin Wizard can cheat your goblins into play and give protection from white for removal like swords or path.
6 months ago
The new Krenko will fit just great in the 99 of this beauty. Would probably take Goblin Wizard out
6 months ago
Great looking deck you have here!
I really like the idea of Goblin Wizard because he helps to dodge counterspells for clutch creatures like the lords or Krenko, but he can also save a lot of mana on things like Goblin Goliath since rather than cast him you can put him into play and have mana left over for using his damage doubler. I think to really make the Wizard work best is to get Goblin Lackey and/or Warren Instigator for some redundancy of the freecast effect, but you can also chain T1 Lackey into a T2 Wizard into a T3 Goblins (x2) just for the original cost of the Lackey. I think I'm going to add the Wizard now...
Speaking of Goblin Goliath as you probably already know he has bugged Legality which is why your deck is showing as not legal for the format. What I discovered is that decks that are flagged like that also don't show up in deck searches for that format. To get your deck more visibility I would suggest moving it to the Maybeboard and using an equally costed placeholder for him so your deck shows up again. I had Goliath in for months before I realized my deck wasn't showing up anymore :/
I think the only vital Ib-related card you are missing is Soul-Scar Mage . Its only non-bo is Repercussion (creatures wouldn't be dealt damage anymore, so nothing to carry over to the player), but otherwise it makes every exploded Goblin much better. It also improves the potential of Blasphemous Act so it can permanently maim say an Emrakul, but it can also kill Indestructible creatures. The number of counters can also be doubled with the damage doublers in the deck, as you can choose to have the doubling resolve before the replacement effect does.
Your landbase looks good, and I like the inclusion of Path of Ancestry . I miss having fetches and have started to add them back in, because they also help a lot with Scroll Rack / Sensei's Divining Top , Experimental Frenzy , and the Surveyor's Scope .
I've been considering adding Goblin War Drums for a while now, and after reading your list last night and walking through a bunch of combat ideas, I am definitely going to make some space for it. Not so much for the free shots at players where the Goblin doesn't die (why Blood Moon + Goblin King is so good), but also the idea of having a very tiny Nemesis Mask effect spreading blocked damage (and Repercussion damage) to at least 2 creatures. I think it even makes Goblin Sledder better by proxy just because you get more Goblins through unblocked sometimes.
I really like the effect of Vicious Shadows but the CMC always turned me off. I've never actually ran it though, so it may be better than I think just because I see how leery people would be of boardwiping, and that's half the struggling in my meta anyway, rebuilding after wipes. Boggart Shenanigans would be the budget CMC version, but it also has the more budget effect.
You'll have to let me know how you like Ashnod's Altar in place of Phyrexian Altar . I don't think either one is the only choice, I just think it depends on your high end spells. Now that I am thinking about it, I don't need the red mana out of Phyrexian all that often (it does allow me to sac all my lands with relative comfort), but Ashnod's would make it easier to get out the larger creatures, the Vicious Shadows, get a Chancellor of the Forge or a Kindred Charge back in, etc...
So I'm not kidding when I say I didn't even realize Massive Raid was an Instant until I read this, haha. I just knew I wanted another Goblin War Strike and Massive Raid is the next best one. Looks like it is even better than I thought! Saccing mountains and killing, blocking attacks, and then killing someone with Raid all on their turn just sounds awesome.
That's all I can think of right now. I still am really happy that you've built out the deck! 2 years ago when I started working on it and no one thought Ib could command anything but a chaos deck I never thought it would get to this point.
If you have any other questions or ideas, let me know!
6 months ago
Hey there Liquidbeaver. Doing great, as usual. I actually posted my own Ib build that yours inspired. Think you can take a look and give me some tips? I’m trying out some new stuff like Goblin Wizard to see how it goes. Debating on how much money I want to dump into him to make him as competitive as possible lol
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