Final Judgment

Sorcery

Remove all creatures from the game.

Discussion (39)

CriticalZER0 on Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis Group Hug

7 months ago

kotnash0r (kingquark?),

I'm glad you like the list!

To improve the deck I would definitely change the manabase so lands don't come into play tapped. This means cutting all the tri-lands/scry lands and adding fetches and shocks (or duals).

Cards I'm thinking about cutting:

• Forced Fruition (too situational)

• Final Judgment (we run other, better effects, like Settle the Wreckage or Austere Command )

• Progenitor Mimic (also situational)

• Coercive Portal (you risk losing all your stuff)

• Insidious Will

Cards to add (or try):

• Wilderness Reclamation (can tap out for ramp/draw spells on your turn and use removal/counters on opponents)

• Cyclonic Rift (this seems like the opposite of group hug though)

• Card Draw: Sylvan Library / Rhystic Study

• Counter Magic: Pact of Negation (or Force of Will or Swan Song ) over Insidious Will

• Removal: Wear / Tear (or Chaos Warp ) over Crush Contraband

• Ramp: Farseek / Birds of Paradise

I'm hesitant to add combos because I normally don't have issues closing out games once I'm drawing a lot of cards, it's simply a matter of not losing first. The new Niv-Mizzet might be fun for the extra card draw though.

Mjollnir15 on SLAP IT ON WITH THE MIGHT OF ZEUS!!

7 months ago

Suggestions:

Sunscour : free cast for 2 whites

Final Judgment : for indestructibles, might not be worth adding

Pollen Lullaby : better fog effect

Card draw from lands (Wont die from your wipes):

Geier Reach Sanitarium

Mikokoro, Center of the Sea : Might be over budget?

Desert of the True : Only cycling, no long term digging

Arch of Orazca : Might be too late game?

KIngWiggins on W: Force of Will, H: ...

9 months ago

I am looking to trade for some Force of Wills to put in my Legacy deck. I am willing to trade for any version, and any sleeve playable condition priced accordingly. I know FOW is a higher priced card so I am willing to talk out offers and find other things I have if anything listed interests you.

Some things I have for trade (some prices wrong):
Chandra, Flamecaller
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
Fork
Mana Vault
Capture of Jingzhou (Don’t really want to trade but would work something out)
Final Judgment
Collected Company
Pact of Negation (FUT)
3x Intruder Alarm
3x Bridge from Below (FUT)
Hallowed Burial (EVE)
More random stuff in Binder and unlisted.

I also have a Savannah (LP) that I just bought from another great user that I don’t know if I will trade, but would be willing to hear offers involving Force, or other Duals.

Lastly, I am looking for Spanish Inquisition of Kozileks if anyone has any, long shot, but worth trying.

He_Who_Hungers on

1 year ago

I am still planning to make a deck just like this some time... Have the C17 dragon precon lying around waiting to be turned into this :) Kamigawa flavour is great!

You missed Final Judgment, though.. It even has our boy O-Kagachi on it! Also, I found Kindred Boon will probably fit well into the deck, especially given its synergy with the Myojins.

Hyrs on Help My Narset Deck

1 year ago

Narset Suggestions:

This isn't super sorted, but I tried to keep similar effects together, sorted by cost as well.

General Tip - Since Narset can only cast things whenever they could be cast, instants are a big advantage

About Wraths - You won't want to cast them with Narset out, but it's better than dying(probably get 4-6)

Things to cut:

any equipment - equipment is okay, but since you don't get the equip cost for free you want to focus on low equip costs, or things that protect narset

about aura's - normally they're just card disadvantage but narset probably offsets that

bounce lands - (like Boros Garrison) are usually a little awkward and slow, in three colors you're better off with basics

Aether Gale - tricky since it needs six targets and that won't always be possible

Sea God's Revenge - bounce that only targets creatures usually isn't worth it in EDH, probably better to have hard removal

Breath of Fury - while decent if you have the creatures (and you have some token generation) it's probably not consistent enough, just run sorcs that give extra combats

Dissipation Field - often gives too much value to opponents, maybe even being a lure (lightmine field might be a decent replacement)

Dismiss Into Dreams - you're not targeting that often, and if you are it should be removal anyways

Assemble the Legion - Seems to slow to be effective

Throne of the God-Pharaoh - Need to go wide for this to be really effective

Suggestions:

_cheap$$(around or less than a dollar): _

Swords to Plowshares(removal) - excellent creature removal, cheap if you happen to draw it

Crib Swap(removal) - still exiles a creature outright, but 3cmc

Banishing Stroke (removal, tuck, utility) - expensive hard cast without narset/miracle but tucking is often better than destroying(worse than exiling)

Relentless Assault(extra combats) - Extra attack steps with Narset is dumb, do it

Fury of the Horde(extra combats) - extra attack steps (they're the best)

Boros Charm(protection, burn) - versatile, keeps narset alive

Return to Dust(utility removal) - Exiling artifacts and enchantments is better than not

Vandalblast(Mass artifact removal) - not an exciting card, but taking out only opponents artifacts cripples some decks

Sunforger(tutor/equipment) - only good if you have enough cards it can search for, is mana intensive but if you have enough cards it can fetch it'll be worth it

Lightmine Field(pillowfort/defense) - Narset can attack through it, and keeps token swarms off your back

Crawlspace(pillowfort/defense) - Against, stops large swarms, still you'll probably get hit by the two biggest creatures

Counterflux(counterspell) - strong counterspell, wins counter wars

Render Silent(counterspell) - Makes people sad, locks them out of whole turns

Insidious Will(counterspell, spell copy) - versatile, let's you copy stronger effects from narset as well

Reverberate(spell copy) - often is what you need it to be, can be a counterspell or raw value, great for piggybacking on green ramp

Wild Ricochet(spell copy) - copy a spell, twice!

Spelltwine(spell copy, recursion) - recursion is great since you're putting so much stuff in your graveyard

Call to Mind (recursion) - you have spells, may as well re-use the best ones

Mystic Retrieval (recursion) - same but with flashback!

Mirari(spell copying) - copying any instant or sorcery for three is a pretty good deal if you don't have to pay for the spell already

Clone Legion(wincon) - With how many etb creatures people run, this can be a game ender, or enough raw value to put you ahead

Blatant Thievery(card advantage, removal) - stealing things makes people mad, but it's very effective

Journeyer's Kite(ramp) - slower than rocks, but more reliable, a slow and steady way to get mana

Thaumatic Compass  ^Flip(ramp, utility) - like kite but only until 7 mana, then it's a nice form of creature protection

Brass's Bounty(ramp) - only good if you need a lot of mana one time

Chain Reaction(mass removal) - board dependent, and kills narset, sometimes you need more wraths

Day of Judgment(mass removal) - very strong

Final Judgment(mass removal) - against some decks destroying all creatures isn't enough, exiling is

_LANDS(can be boring, but are often a big part of how your deck performs): _

Command Tower - Must have in three colors

Mystic Monastery - Tapped lands aren't great, tri-color tap lands in your color are

Rogue's Passage(unblockable) - Being colorless is bad, being unblockable is good

not so cheap$$(around three or more dollars):

Path to Exile(removal) - a second StP, not all decks need it, but it is strong

Darksteel Plate(protection) - keeps your commander safer, isn't super powerful, cheap equip

Rite of Replication(wincon, value) - You still have to pay the kicker but this card is incredible

Waves of Aggression(extra combats) - take extra combats, plus you can play it from the graveyard

Wrath of God(mass removal) - it's the best, but day of judgment is as good 99% of the time

Austere Command(mass removal) - hit's only what you need it to hit, can ignore narset if necessary

Cyclonic Rift(mass removal) - one sided, but you have to pay for the kicker with narset, still can steal games

Blasphemous Act(mass removal) - often one mana

He_Who_Hungers on Kyoto or bust, baby.

1 year ago

Surely the theme isn't complete without Final Judgment.. Look at our boy O-Kagachi out there kicking ass.

Mostly just want to keep updated on this as I plan to make a similar deck because Kamigawa is the best (well, not the best... Ravnica is the best, but you know what I mean).

J_Tal on Kami War

1 year ago

I agree with you completely, I even purchased all of the spirit dragons. However, I ended up cutting almost 50 cards to get where this is right now. I ended up focusing on the: "Whenever you cast a spirit or arcane spell..." ability. Unfortunately, Final Judgment isn't even an arcane spell.

I even wanted to include all of the Genju and the Hondens, but they didn't provide enough benefit to keep. (Though I did keep Genju of the Realm :D )

He_Who_Hungers on Kami War

1 year ago

Exactly the type of deck I'm planning to build with O-K. 5 color Kami deck ho. Mine's probably going to be a tad more focused on the theme then yours, but still a delight to see it out there. Glad to see my namesake in there, too! You're missing Final Judgment though... It has our boi O-Kagachi on the card! Can't make a deck without that. Also, maybe some of the Dragon Spirits? They're thematic, awesome, and some of them even pretty useful: Yosei, the Morning Star, Jugan, the Rising Star, Ryusei, the Falling Star, Kokusho, the Evening Star, Keiga, the Tide Star.