|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Commander 2015 (C15)||Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Rare|
|Duel Decks: Sorin vs. Tibalt (DDK)||Rare|
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Death Grasp deals X damage to target creature or player. You gain X life.
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Death Grasp Discussion
1 month ago
Thank you Darkshadow327 for your suggestions! Not overbearing at all, it's exactly the kind of help I'm looking for. Debt to the Deathless was a no-brainer and I'm still mad at myself for not getting it the original list. Exsanguinate is half cmc for half effect but can still win games by itself and I'll be including it in the next upgrade. Death Grasp would be great in 1v1 or to take out a single opponent but my play group is usually a 5 man free for all so hitting all opponents is very important. Both Erebos, God of the Dead and Athreos, God of Passage are fantastic additions with Erebos, God of the Dead allowing me to trade the life I'm taxing for more cards and Athreos, God of Passage giving me free recursion or more damage whenever I lose a creature. As for the other enchantments I'm still deciding on them because they're very situational and don't quite sync with the rest of the deck. When they work they grab the opponents best creatures and you can win pretty quickly but when all you're getting is mana dorks and 2/2s the value isn't really there. Probably just my own personal bias so I'll keep them in the maybe board. I really appreciate you taking the time to look over my deck and offer such a detailed response! Sorry I didn't respond sooner but I'm kinda new to using this site so I'm still getting used to the formatting. Anyway thanks again!
1 month ago
This deck seems very similar to my deck
Commander / EDH
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For your CMC you are running a lot of lands, I would recommend cutting down to about 36-38 lands.
Since this seems like a life gain/drain deck I would recommend:
are all goods cards that will mass drain opponents.
Erebos, God of the Dead will prevent opponents from gaining life so that you can drain them out.
Athreos, God of Passage can protect your creatures. Even if they do pay the life, that just furthers your game plan.
I hope this helps and that I wasn't overbearing. If you want more suggestions my list can give you some ideas.
3 months ago
Cards I'm not a fan of:
- Mirrodin's Core
- Temple of the False God unless you add 2 more lands; your land count is a little low as-is
- Gideon's Intervention
- Paradox Haze
- Evra, Halcyon Witness
- Sanguine Sacrament
- Death Grasp
- Never / Return
- Phyrexian Revoker
Cards I'd add:
5 months ago
Hey, you asked for my help. This is a well built budget Commander deck. Only $137 for a complete playable Commander deck is nice, good job.
Chromatic Lantern is down more than 60% in price (less than $5 now) since it's been revealed to be reprinted in Guilds of Ravnica. Lantern is now a budget Commander card, as it should be :) The prices haven't updated yet for this site, but if you add (GRN) to the end of Lantern in the text editor it will show up as the GRN version with the updated low price.
Your decklist is already really well done/streamlined, it's going to be difficult to make cuts without adding some additional price... Here's a list of cards to consider adding/cutting:
Exsanguinate: does X damage to each player and you gain just as much life. This single spell can kill everyone at the table. It could replace Death Grasp because Grasp only does X damage to one player.
Exotic Orchard: good land for multiplayer Commander.
Tainted Field: can ETB untapped and if you control a Swamp it can be tapped to make black or white mana. If you don't have a Swamp you can still tap it to make colorless mana. It could replace either Orzhov Guildgate or Scoured Barrens?
If these lands upgrades are too much then I think you're better off playing more basic lands then the three Guildgates, Barrens, River and Boneyard. More basic lands at least work better with the Bounce lands (Azorius Chancery, etc.).
Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
here are some suggestions:
- Hero's Downfall
- Alms of the Vein, or Sovereign's Bite
- Tainted Remedy
- Trespasser's Curse
- Read the Bones
7 months ago
Conviction isn't really that good imo, you can find better aura's for cheap. Cruel Reality while good later in the game you have no mana rocks that I saw meaning it won't come out soon enough to get really good usage. Dreadbringer Lampads kinda like with Nyx-Fleece Ram it isn't really serving a purpose other than to be an enchantment. Fall of the Thran You dislike when people target you, don't give them a reason. Archetype of Finality imo it's too slow for how weak the creature is. Crystal Chimes already messaged you. Daxos's Torment I'm not that sure but I feel like this again is only really there for it to be a creature that's an enchantment, not to be a valued card. Death Grasp again, not too sure but unless you have more mana ramp and sources not going to do too much. Grim Guardian Again feeling like it's only there to be both a creature and an enchantment, power isn't too strong. Mourning Not to strong, -2/-0 not going to do much in most cases imo Myth Realized Like the Daxos's Torment but slightly better imo, still feel it's only there to be both a creature and enchantment Nyx-Fleece Ram Just restating. Skybind Without more strong normal creatures not benefiting you, just maybe hurting opponents a little. Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts What's the purpose of them? They do nothing for the deck.
7 months ago
You may want to consider putting Azor's Gateway Flip in here. Once it flips it can produce absurd amounts of mana and can help you pay for a lethal Exsanguinate, or Debt to the Deathless, or just a huge Death Grasp.
8 months ago
cards to consider adding: Exsanguinate, Debt to the Deathless, Death Grasp, Profane Command, Devil's Play, Fall of the Titans, Dictate of the Twin Gods, Exquisite Blood, Furnace of Rath, Curse of Bloodletting, Havoc Festival, Hissing Miasma, Price of Knowledge, Palace Siege, Repercussion, Heartless Hidetsugu, Personal Sanctuary, Land Tax
cards to consider dropping: Vampiric Touch, Blind Obedience, Athreos, God of Passage, Combustible Gearhulk, Mother of Runes, Queen Marchesa, Scab-Clan Berserker, Selfless Spirit, Vampire Nighthawk, & you probably have a few too many targeted creature removal spells
Death Grasp occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%