As Monaster Siege enters the battlefield, choose Khans or Dragons.
- Khans — At the beginning of your draw step, draw an additional card, then discard a card.
- Dragons — Spells your opponents cast that target you or a permanent you control cost more to cast.
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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Rare|
|Fate Reforged (FRF)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Monastery Siege occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
- Monastery Siege vs Storm
- Do you have to pay 4 mana for two Monastery Sieges in play?
- If i have 2 monastery siege in play and they are both khans,does it mean i draw 3,then discard 2?
- How do Qjutai Exemplars, Clever Impersonators copied as Ojutai Exemplars, and board wipes you cast affect each other?
- If I have multiple cards that increase the amount of cards I draw, do they all trigger at the same time?
Monastery Siege Discussion
4 weeks ago
You have a lot of enchantment-based removal, like Darksteel Mutation, et al. I like these effects a lot but they can be even better with recursion. Starfield of Nyx and Hanna, Ship's Navigator would be good choices if you're looking for more card advantage. As far as deck slots go they can usually be treated as "draw".
They're expensive, but some of the best card draw cards are Kindred Discovery, Phyrexian Arena, and Rhystic Study. Some other fair-to-middling options that are enchantments/artifacts are Honden of Seeing Winds, The Magic Mirror, Coastal Piracy, Underworld Connections, Greed, Erebos, God of death, Vampiric Rites, Distant Melody, Mind Unbound, Well of Ideas, Thassa, God of the Sea (Scry 1 is kinda like 0.45 of a drawn card), Thought Reflection, Dictate of Kruphix, Monastery Siege, Tamiyo's Journal, Staff of Nin, Arcane Encyclopedia.
1 month ago
There aren't a lot of straightforward replacements some of the cards here (particularly time walk) and some might be a little worse and you'll definitely lose some of the synergy, but that doesn't mean we can't keep the game plan. Also this is for the modern format (what used to be extended) and not the current standard. That being said:
- Horseshoe Crab/Thieving Magpie - Still modern legal/Surge Mare also works.
- Thornwind Faeries - Prodigal Sorcerer.
- Raven Familiar - Augury Owl/Sea Gate Oracle.
- Rayne - No functional replacement that affects all your creatures/Monastery Siege might be able to serve a similar purpose of making it harder to target your permanents rather than discourage your opponent from targeting.
- Curiosity - Still modern legal
- Hermetic Study - Viridian Longbow/Sorcerer's Wand, though not an enchantment, it functions the same way.
- Soothsaying - Descendant of Soramaro
- Sigil of Sleep - No functional replacement, Gorgon Flail/Basilisk Collar might be a nice alternative here.
Counterspells. This one is a bit tricky as they moved away from the classic Counterspell and there's a lot of variety here and counters have changed a lot. So I'm just going to recommend a few to consider:
- Quash and Rewind are still modern legal
- Also Lullmage Mentor can be a pretty good finisher/cornerstone of a counter deck
- Saheeli, Sublime Artificer/Talrand, Sky Summoner can also add some nice value to play counterspells.
Well, that took a bit of time, but I hope this helps.
1 month ago
Here is some stuffs I think would fit great with your deck:
Dragonss---> Lathliss, Dragon Queen: Great for extra dragons. Nesting Dragon: Fantastic for adding board presence after a wrath. Intet, the Dreamer: Fun, big dragon that can get you fun, cheap dragons. Ojutai, Soul of Winter: Mean, but can get you leagues ahead after a few swings. Ramos, Dragon Engine: A bit pricey, but is an all-around great card. Morophon, the Boundless: Four mana Ur-Dragon ain't no joke.
Extras---> Palace Siege and Monastery Siege: These sieges can give you ridiculous value if left unchecked, also monastery siege is great when facing control strats. Fist of Suns: If you get this out with Morophon you can cast any dragon for free, also just a great card. Last one, Sarkhan the Masterless: Amazing defense card, who would dare swing into the might of dragons.
2 months ago
It really depends on your meta and your budget. However for now i'll try to list some cards that i really like in that type of deck.. In the creature compartment i would suggest Diregraf Colossus, Undead Warchief, maybe Death Baron, Cryptbreaker, the obvious Gravecrawler, Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Lich Lord of Unx. For card draw i would add Graveborn Muse or Midnight Reaper. Soulless One can be a good card if you are on a budget. Grimgrin, Corpse-Born is a great card too as he gets really big and destroys your opponents' creatures fast.Zombie Master is good on its own in a tribal deck but becomes great with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. More expensive cards are Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Ghoulcaller Gisa; if i had to pick i would choose the first. Also Grave Titan can get you a lot of tokens.
Enchantments: Grave Pact for removal, Phyrexian Arena/Kindred Discovery/Rhystic Study and the great and cheap Monastery Siege for card draw, Black Market for ramp, Rooftop Storm enables a lot of Gravecrawler combos, Paradox Haze doubles your commander's effect while Training Grounds makes his second effect cheaper.
Artifacts: Phyrexian Altar for the gravecrawler combo, i love in this deck Bontu's Monument, Door of Destinies/Vanquisher's Banner/Coat of Arms because you are going for a tribal deck (and why not Herald's Horn. Illusionist's Bracers doubles the scarab's firs ability.
PW: Liliana, Untouched By Death does everything you want in a Scarab god deck.
The problem with your deck in my opinion is that even if you play cards with some synergy because of the zombie tribal element and some way to double your commander's drain ability there are a lot of cards that do not enough for you here. Remember that playing a deck that is a constant menace to your opponents gets you a big target on your head. To be more specific with my suggestions i need to know your budget, your meta and the path you want to take with this deck. Also there are too little cards in the removal compartment, in the draw compartment and in the mana base fixing compartment.
2 months ago
2 months ago
I'm pretty sure the interaction between Dive Down and illusion creatures just ends up making the illusion get sacrificed rather than protecting them from and opponents spell/ability... I have used Monastery Siege with success in the past.
3 months ago
So Scarab God is one of my favorite commanders so you're in luck. I have a lot of recommendations for you. Lets start off with creatures. Creatures: Though you want mostly zombie tribal, you do want a few largely impactful cards that you can discard into your graveyard and recast with The Scarab God . Some cards I'd recommend are Sheoldred, Whispering One , Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur , Sower of Discord <--- This card in combination with Paradox Haze + Wound Reflection make for an extremely quick kill for 2 people, Noxious Ghoul , Ghoulcaller Gisa , Eternal Skylord , Gleaming Overseer , Undead Alchemist , Corpse Connoisseur , Lord of the Accursed , Lich Lord of Unx and Gisa and Geralf
Lands: First of all your Crypt of the Eternals isn't legal in your deck as it has red mana. Now lands are usually the most expensive part of a deck but also the most important part of the deck. If you're willing to cough up the money or want to get proxies of them here's my recommendations: Cabal Coffers , Command Tower , Crypt of Agadeem , Fabled Passage , Field of the Dead , Myriad Landscape , Nephalia Drownyard , Phyrexian Tower , Polluted Delta , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , and Volrath's Stronghold . If you have a way of making a proxy I'd also recommend Underground Sea because this card is ridiculously expensive. Then equalize your basic lands a bit more with 13-14 swamps and 7-8 islands.
Sorceries/Instants: My recommendation is remove all of your instants and sorceries with the exception of From Under the Floorboards , Syphon Flesh , Army of the Damned and Zombie Apocalypse . Now simply replace them with Restless Dreams , Mind Bomb and Careful Study so you have more discard outlets.
Artifacts/Mana Dorks: Most of your artifacts and mana dorks are good but could use some tuning. My recommendation is to swap Dimir Locket with Dimir Signet . Swap Prismatic Lens with Arcane Signet . Swap Star Compass with Commander's Sphere . Swap Charcoal Diamond with Darksteel Ingot . Then as an alternate win condition, you can toss in a Mindcrank and Strionic Resonator to mill your opponents as they take damage and then allowing you to double Scarab Gods ability.
Enchantments: You're missing out on some amazing potential with enchantments. Keep all of the ones you have but think about replacing Monastery Siege with a Rhystic Study or The Immortal Sun . Now I'm just gonna list off a lot of enchantments for you that work wonders in this style of deck. Pick and choose which ones you want: Tortured Existence , Zombie Infestation , Curse of Disturbance , Phyrexian Arena , Grave Pact , No Mercy , Dictate of Erebos , Liliana's Mastery , Open the Graves , Rooftop Storm <-- this one is a must have. Wound Reflection and finally Grave Betrayal . Your Endless Ranks of the Dead is new to me btw and I'll definitely be adding that one into my Scarab God deck. That thing is nuts.
Lastly your Maybeboard, the only cards I'd recommend putting in is Torment of Hailfire and Grave Titan . The rest are either unnecessary or do more harm than good. Though if you do want a planeswalker I'd highly recommend Liliana, Untouched By Death . She synergizes with the deck extremely well, especially if you have Rooftop Storm on the battlefield because now you can just recast everything from your graveyard for free.
3 months ago
Progenitor Mimic is a cheaper Helm of the Host type effect but it’s less reliable because it triggers on upkeep instead of combat. Although this is offset by cheaper mana investment and it can target opposing creatures. As for card advantage there’s things like Mulldrifter and Phyrexian Gargantua for ETB based draw. For incremental draw there’s cards like Staff of Nin , Monastery Siege , and Arguel's Blood Fast Flip. For one off draw effects I really like Drawn from Dreams , Urban Evolution , and Game Plan . Also another sweet card in here would be Irregular Cohort . All these cards are very cheap. The mimic is around $2-$4 but that’s cheaper than helm so still worth. Anyways +1 from me and if you get a chance go check out my Pir and Toothy deck.