Karn's Temporal Sundering
(You may cast a legendary sorcery only if you control a legendary creature or planeswalker.)
Target player takes an extra turn after this one. Return up to one target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. Exile Karn's Temporal Sundering.
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Karn's Temporal Sundering Discussion
1 week ago
Honestly, I've brewed it as more of a tempo turns deck; Time Warp, Capture of Jingzhou, Temporal Mastery, Temporal Trespass, Nexus of Fate, Karn's Temporal Sundering, Walk the Aeons and Part the Waterveil all help you dig your heels in as you amass a rouge army and you inevitably mill or kill everyone with card advantage or they scoop out of boredom.
2 weeks ago
I spot someone looking to play my favourite dragon!
First off, what's your budget like? You're running cards such as Mana Drain so I'm going to assume a high budget at least for this comment.
Starting with your lands, you generally want to avoid cards that always enter tapped. This especially goes for a more aggressive list like this where you don't want to be waiting until the next turn for your mana. I recommend dropping all of the lands you have that enter tapped including Temple of the False God, and instead look at picking up others like Adarkar Wastes, Prairie Stream, Seachrome Coast, Nimbus Maze, Skycloud Expanse, Port Town, or even just replacing them with basic Islands/Plains. If you have a lot of money to burn there's always cards like Ancient Tomb, Cavern of Souls, and of course fetchlands.
I highly recommend picking up a Stoneforge Mystic and Batterskull if you can afford them, they go extremely well together. Umezawa's Jitte is another really good piece of equipment but also is a bit more on the expensive side. I recommend cutting Whispersilk Cloak as Shroud makes you unable to equip Ojutai with anything, and Swiftfoot Boots is redundant due to Ojutai's natural hexproof. If you want another way to protect him, there's cheap options such as Sword of Vengeance which gives him a tonne of stuff.
As for other cards there's Fabricate, Steelshaper's Gift, and Enlightened Tutor if you want to get pricy. I also recommend cutting Karn's Temporal Sundering, Time Warp, and Ojutai, Soul of Winter since they won't help you in your overall gameplan much.
Apologies for the wall of text, but I hope some of this helps!
3 weeks ago
This commander is on my list to brew but I'll probably go the turns route. Capture of Jingzhou, Time Warp, Karn's Temporal Sundering, Temporal Trespass, Part the Waterveil, Temporal Mastery and Temporal Mastery will all be jammed in there. Then I'd add in the value wizards you already have most of them but some to think about Spellseeker, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, Sea Gate Stormcaller and Baral, Chief of Compliance
3 weeks ago
RNR_Gaming Thanks a bunch for the comment! Im gonna add some of the suggestions into the maybe board to keep them present. Hard thing is gonna be the cutting part, what to switch. Im also considering an Oko, Thief of Crowns and if Capture of Jingzhou gets a reprint Im taking out Karn's Temporal Sundering for sure. Also considering 32 lands instead of 31. Completely forgot about Kenrith's Transformation.
PaulMuadDib on Sens
2 months ago
cut stifle, disallow or tale's end for Trickbind. The split second plus prevent the ability from being activated again is so useful I can't stress it enough.
Even though your average cmc is impressively low at 2.33, I still think you don't have enough draw to justify having only 25 lands. You will most likely have to mulligan at least twice to get a decent hand. I suggest considering adding 3 to 5 and to test from there. I get that you can play your opponent's lands, but it's not always a guarantee that you'll get to 5 mana quick enough before your opponent's play all the lands they draw.
The deck has a decent amount of ramp, I think I counted about 12 cards that I'd consider ramp. It's lacking a threshold of draw cards which would fill up your hand if you're hellbent. Sure you can play one of your opponent's hands, people will probably get annoyed at the control deck and kill your commander asap. This of course means that if you have an empty hand, you won't get to use your control spells to stop them from removing your commander or other artifacts.
You seem to have a taking extra turns subtheme. I personally wouldn't run those because often if you play with strangers, they'll target you because of that. My suggestion is to remove Nexus of Fate, Beacon of Tomorrows and Karn's Temporal Sundering for lands. Though you don't have to do that, since I get that they let you choose a different player for your commander's trigger. Alternatively you can use Strionic Resonator for that purpose.
I'd suggest a Vedalken Archmage since the deck does have 26 artifacts, so having them replace themselves is really nice. Syphon Mind is a nice 3 for 1 against a regular 4 pod.
Anyways those are my suggestions, add a few more lands and more draw spells. Also something like Prosperity can help you if your opponents often end up hellbent themselves and is a great card to have alongside the notion theif
2 months ago
I like playing turns decks and have found these extra turn spells to perform very well, Karn's Temporal Sundering,Capture of Jingzhou, Part the Waterveil, Temporal Trespass, Temporal Mastery, and Walk the Aeons. Also, Teferi, Master of Time will fit your theme beautifully.
4 months ago
5 months ago
Things I'd cut: Frost Marsh just a tap land, not worth it
Spire of Industry not enough artifact to turn it on early and you don't really need it late
Diabolic Tutor too slow, you'll be drawing so many cards anyway
Karn's Temporal Sundering also slow and expensive, you'd need upwards of 10 mana to make this thing worth it
Folio of Fancies nonbo with much of the discard stuff, and mill is not the way this deck wins so why let your opponents keep extra cards?
Exquisite Blood same deal, you don't really need lifegain and at 5 mana youd rather play nek himself
Psychosis Crawler this one's a hot take, but in a deck dedicated to making your opponents draw, he is looking for the opposite. Also 5 mana is neks spot.
Niv-Mizzet, Parun casting cost is fucking rough, but this is a maybe cuz he is really strong
Psychic Corrosion same deal as folio about this not being a mill deck
Sangromancer you don't need much life gain
Spark Double not sure what you're copying, an extra nek is nice but doesn't seem like that huge of a difference, nothing else seems worth it.
Torbran, Thane of Red Fell triple red is tough and he doesn't really change the clock that much. This is more a matter of preference though
Mission Briefing you're almost certainly using this for a wheel but why not just run another wheel and not have to pay an extra UU?
Before I say what I'd add specifically, in general I think you need a little more speed, a few more lands and a lot more interaction. 2 counters, 2 spot removal, and 3 board wipes does not feel like enough, especially for a relatvely slow deck that doesn't combo out. I would add a mix of 4-5 spot removal and counter spells and 4 more lands before even looking at any of the cards below.
Cards I would add:
Another land or two in addition to the above. Your commander is 5 mana after all and your average CMC is over 3. Average CMC times 10 or 11 is my baseline for lands
Curiosity stellar, cheap card draw
Nightscape Familiar effectively a mana dork, helps with the speed
Whirlpool Warrior another wheel
Archfiend of Ifnir pet card, turns wheels into board wipes
Vision Skeins fun card, works perfectly with your strategy