Thrasios, Triton Hero

Thrasios, Triton Hero

Legendary Creature — Merfolk Wizard

: Scry 1, then reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped. Otherwise, draw a card.

Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Thrasios, Triton Hero occurrence in decks from the last year

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All decks: 0.03%

Thrasios, Triton Hero Discussion

ArtistaFeo on Anything you can do I can do Better(Ikra +Ludevic

2 days ago

I love this deck soooo Much!!! I've wanted to build my own version since watching you pilot it on Game Knights. Great job! I was curious if you have ever experimented with other partner commanders that would result with the same color combinations? Such as Thrasios, Triton Hero and Vial Smasher the Fierce (Even though people get salty towards the pairing, this build wouldn't be broken.) It seems that the deck doesn't depend on the commanders in order to perform so it could be fun to try others out. I do see the appeal of Ludevic and Ikra.

greyninja on Thassa's oracle/jace/lab maniac win cond ...

2 weeks ago

Having a mana sink in the command zone is a good idea: Urza, Lord High Artificer, Thrasios, Triton Hero, The Locust God, Oona, Queen of the Fae, etc

That way you can use one of the many ways to gain infinite mana to chew through your whole library to find the Lab Man or Thassa's Oracle ftw

Just my $0.02

NinjaBunny01 on The Immortal King: The Fable of Oloro [cEDH]

1 month ago

flyinggrizzlybear Thanks, glad you like it. I am trying to decide how I want to "code" it and what items are relevant, so I don't really have a timeframe for when that will be done. As for the Stoneforge Mystic and the equipments, they don't help the decks goal or advance it. Cards like those are better suited towards more voltron/equipment style decks. In this deck, I would have to remove some of my control or life gaining advantage cards to add them in. Thanks for the suggestions though, I greatly appreciate any feedback!

GhostChieftain The win con in the mainboard right now is Debt to the Deathless and Felidar Sovereign as the instant win. The general strategy is to disable my opponent's plans for as long as possible then finish it off with one of the two, or grind it out with my bigger creatures. You are correct about the avg cmc being on the higher end, but I designed the main board to allow me the ability to play with non cEDH decks and not be overbearing. This makes the mainboard a little slower for cEDH. The sideboard is what I am looking at if power increase is needed. Adding in cards like Walking Ballista with the mainboarded Heliod, Sun-Crowned makes and infinite damage outlet while cards like Linvala, Keeper of Silence disables commanders like Thrasios, Triton Hero and Trickbind stops Protean Hulk. So I am looking into enhancing the decks power from my sideboard if needed. I am open to making direct swaps into the mainboard as there are cards like Divinity of Pride that aren't doing as much as other cards in the deck. I am on the lookout for cards to change things like that out for something with lower cmc. As for the Ad Nauseam, I would have to think about other cards to add in to the deck as well. It isn't as good alone, and the deck that you linked to is built more around it. I did have it in the sideboard along with Angel's Grace and Laboratory Maniac, but found that the deck doesn't run well trying to accomplish that combo and it is easily disrupted. I am looking for lower costing cmc variations to cards in the deck if you have anymore suggestions though. Thanks for the feedback, I greatly appreciated it.

Mj3913 on Let's talk Dragons, forgetting symbol:R.

1 month ago

Hiya folks, just gunna drop this here for awhile... As much as I don't need new projects I've me up with another idea while being bored to death at work. That idea though needs your ideas, examples, and input. If you haven't guessed from the title...

Redless Dragons.

That leave the 4 other colors to work with. Commander options are in short supply for these colors being:

I guess we have to ask what do we lose with red, and it's a lot. Fire breathing, most tribal bluffs, cost reduction, and dragon tokens. Could be replaced sort of, but that leans heavy on green for ramp which is the least shiny of the dragon colors I think. So much so that I am on the fence about dropping to 3 colors.

Esper dragons offer control as most esper decks do, but can it go fast enough like a typical dragon deck or will it stall for the long game? Or keep green and drop another color? White seems like the next best choice except I like Taigam, Ojutai Master and Scalelord Reckoner alot for this. Sans black would lose alot of removal options like both Silumgars, Crux of Fate, and Deathbringer Reagent. Blue too also loses the Silumgars, Taigam and control options like counterspells.

So now that my thoughts are out of the way, what are yours? Have any of you done this before and care to share examples/ideas?

Spirits on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

1 month ago

Hi Knixx,

It fairs very well. It depends on your goal, if you just looking to win, consistently definitely go with a Thrasios, Triton Hero or a Kess, Dissident Mage. For myself, I want to win, but want to enjoy doing it. It doesn't have the card advantage of or enough tutor/counter interactions to be as consistent as several of the Competitive+ commanders, but feel Kaalia of the Vast falls in that.

Generally cEDH theory with Kaalia of the Vast is to abandon the damage line, you can see some recommended changes under Maybeboard Sushi. I haven't found that it significantly improves my win ratio, but it may be the way to go.

I have Turn 1-Turn 3 win potentials, and have a Turn 4.x average win. I do find, I'm almost exclusively combo wins now, <20% of wins involve combat damage.

So in short, yes this deck and Kaalia of the Vast can be competitive, not on a level consistent with some others. Abandoning combat damage is key to having success, you'll see I've pretty much abandoned but can still be pushed a little further. Funnest commander, maybe Animar, Soul of Elements, so for me, competitive and entertaining.

dingusdingo on You Are Now a Member ...

1 month ago

Alright, in hypothetical Larryland where I am now in charge of making decisions, here is what I would do

First, establish criteria for the format

Shouldn't be too complicated, as there has already been lots of time spent discussing the format

  • Bans should serve to stop certain combos or deckbuilding approaches from swallowing the meta.
  • Bans should be justified off of power level for winning, not how fun or unfun the combo or style of deck is to play or play against
  • General rules changes about the format should serve to open deckbuilding and allow for more interesting approaches to the meta and winning.

Rules Changes

I think a couple rules changes should take place to open deckbuilding and allow more options, and allow cards to work as intended with the commander specific ruleset

  • Commanders should hit the graveyard before returning to the command zone. This allows commanders like Child of Alara or other death triggers to actually function as intended while maintaining the command zone. Commanders should have the option of returning to the CZ at will from exile, the graveyard, the library, or a player's hand as an ability that doesn't use the stack, similar to mana abilities.
  • Hybrid mana symbols should be perfectly legal as long as the hybrid symbols fulfill a color identity of your commander. For example, Boros Recruit should be legal in a mono-red deck. If a hybrid mana card has a mana symbol in the text box that it outside the color identity, it should still be excluded. For example, if Boros Recruit had a firebreathing ability for in the text box, it would no longer be legal in a mono-white deck.
  • Restriction of the command zone to a single card. Partner commanders are still legal, but not legal to run them as partners in the command zone. Having a mix and match color identity and having guaranteed access to two cards at all times over one card is too strong. Bigger color identity means wider pool of cards to pull from, and the partner players are effectively starting with a 9 card hand as opposed to non-partner commanders starting with an 8 card hand.

Bans and Unbans

First, I would unban cards that the RC has banned because they are "unfun" or don't fit the spirit of the format

  • Coalition Victory - If you can pull this off and cast the cost, go ahead and win
  • Emrakul, the Aeons Torn - This costs 15 mana and channel is banned, this isn't going to break decks at all and most likely will only see play as an Ulamog alternate in Gitrog decks
  • Erayo, Soratami Ascendant - This can be countered or removed or smart opponents can avoid triggering it. Once it has flipped, it is still removable although somewhat toxic. It definitely gets good mileage in EDH but people can play around this if they have even half a brain, which is what I would expect from competitive.
  • Iona, Shield of Emeria - This is only banned now because Painter's Servant was unbanned. Certainly reanimator Iona strategies can cause problems, but hitting a 2 card combo for a soft lock isn't game shattering unless you are on a mono-colored deck, at which point it just becomes one of the things you must worry about. If Back to Basics and Blood Moon are totally fine for shitting on 3-5 color mana bases, I'm 100% fine with Iona for shitting on mono color decks.
  • Library of Alexandria - I have no idea why this is banned in the first place. Most competitive decks are so tight on their land base and won't have a slot for this. Also most competitive decks wish to play spells on turn 1 and 2, which makes it harder to get the 7 in hand for the Library draw.
  • Panoptic Mirror - If someone can assemble the ultra fragile Mirror + Free turn spell, and then gets an ENTIRE ROTATION of no one destroying it, I'm 100% fine with them taking infinite turns. Also consider that this combo basically costs to start, 5 for cast and 5 for the free turn. This card is banned because casuals absolutely loathe combos. Its unbanning could make Pox decks somewhat viable in competitive, and would be a boon to stax decks as well
  • Primeval Titan - This card is a double tutor on ETB or attack, but its a double tutor for lands. If someone really wants to set up Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers + Deserted Temple + Inventors' Fair (which fetches Rings of Brighthearth) then more power to them, as it requires either a blink effect or an entire rotation to THEN get the second set of tutors from attacking. Its big value, but honestly no reason for this card to be banned. It costs to cast
  • Paradox Engine - the banning of this card made the format worse, as it knocked out tons of viable decks simply because "Too many casuals put down rocks and PE and oops into an infinite". The unbanning of this card opens up the format significantly, and allows weird decks like Hannah, Ship's Navigator or Dralnu, Lich Lord to be viable commanders, although definitely not tier 0 picks.
  • Recurring Nightmare - Banned because of griefing almost 100%. Nobody likes being hit by some ETB creature that involves saccing or losing permanents, but it isn't fast enough to warrant a ban. It requires mana, AND a creature on the field, AND a creature in the GY.
  • Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary - Selvala is basically a more powerful version of this because of the cantrips and you can play non-basic lands. This would probably become a tier 1 deck by basically copying the Selvala list, but I think the meta would be enriched from adding this as an alternate, similar to how Marwen has added instead of detracted from the meta.
  • Sundering Titan - Banned because attacking a player's resources is seen as an unfun way to win. Its expensive to cast and not exactly game shattering when it enters.
  • Sway of the Stars - This costs to cast for a weird Timetwister that sets life totals to 7. Sure there is potential for abuse with Suspend cards, but this costs 10 mana. Nobody is going to play this if it gets unbanned.
  • Sylvan Primordial - Another board state changer that isn't really going to do as much as it looks when it lands. Sure, -3 permanents on board for opponents and +3 lands is neat, but it costs . Decks would rather win than assemble some blink or recursion loop for this card.
  • Upheaval - This is banned almost entirely from a casual and time perspective. It makes games take longer. In competitive though, this card would be used with excess floating mana to THEN rip your combo. Almost definitely wouldn't see competitive play though, and the banning seems silly to me.
  • Worldfire - If you can run a wacky suspend deck that abuses this to win, you have my blessing. It also costs to cast so someone will probably just win before you
  • Yawgmoth's Bargain - This is a Necropotence that costs with the benefit of no-delay on the draws. If necro is legal, this should be legal.

Bans

My biggest reasoning for bans is that some combos are so strong and so hard to interact with that they become the go-to builds for certain color identities. When the optimal way to build 30 different commanders in the same color pairing is Flash Hulk, you have run into a problem.

  • Flash - Arguably the worse part of Flash Hulk. Potential for abuse in a post-Hulk world with Academy Rector. This card has the potential for abuse with every single new creature printed. I don't think this card makes the meta more interesting, and I think it pigeonholes deckbuilding into "well why don't you run Flash Hulk, or Flash _". Flash combos are also difficult for other decks to interact with outside of Counterspell, which means when you're building for playing in a competitive meta, you are almost expected to play Blue due to how strong and warping this card is.
  • Protean Hulk - Even with a flash banning I still wand this turd of a card gone. Finding hulk, reanimating hulk, and sacrificing hulk isn't interesting. There isn't very much skill there. The decks aren't interesting. There is a combo in practically every color combination for winning immediately after you get a Hulk trigger. It can be viewed as a 6-card into-play tutor, or a 5-card into-play tutor, etc. etc. I don't think the meta is more interesting or better for having this card be legal.
  • Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact - More boring and tired combo archetypes. Once again, tutoring for 2 cards and ripping the Consultation + Oracle combo doesn't really require much pilot skill, and it doesn't make decks more interesting to build. These cards are simply too efficient at what they do, and they are hard for non-blue decks to interact with meaningfully. The presence of this combo and Flash Hulk has basically relegated all stax decks to being tier 2 builds, as they have such an impossible time locking down these combos. The banning of these two cards and Flash Hulk would bust the competitive meta wide open. Also, between these cards or the Laboratory Maniac + variants in the combo, these are the cards that are way way way more degenerate than the other part of the combo.
  • Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora - These are annoying and burdensome mono-blue staples that slow gameplay, and are auto-includes in practically any deck that includes blue. They function much better than intended due to the multiplayer nature of the format, and deckbuilding is less interesting and diverse because these cards are legal. They can singlehandedly run away with games when you have a single player in the pod who ignores them, and having your combo shut down because someone draw a Force of Will after getting 6 free draws is frustrating and extremely obnoxious. They also prop up extremely mediocre mono blue decks like Urza, Lord High Artificer and Baral, Chief of Compliance. Once again, I don't really think there is any skill in playing or building around this card, and the power level of "auto-include for any deck with blue" stifles deck building. Blue really doesn't need any help being good in EDH, let alone cEDH.
  • Nature's Will and Druids' Repository - Targeted bans for Najeela, the other obnoxious tier 0 commander deck in the current meta. I'm not a huge fan of 1 card combos with commanders, because you always have one of the cards available at all stages of the game, and tutoring + playing a single card once again doesn't really speak to high skill or interesting deck building. The banning of these cards will peripherally splash and hit other decks, such as Edric, Spymaster of Trest, but I'm fine with that. Najeela and Edric will still have other options for executing these combos, such as Sword of Feast and Famine or Bear Umbra, but these are more mana intensive or more fragile combos with lower utility outside the combo.
  • Tymna the Weaver - I have already advocated for removing partners from the command zone, but this card is so dummy strong as to be included in the 99 of other decks with some frequency. You can get the draws even if Tymna didn't attack (i.e. it just came in). You can get 3 draws a turn for the same mana cost as Phyrexian Arena, except that if done correctly you'll get the draws before you would get the Arena draws. This card is meta warping, this and Najeela are a big part of the reason the meta is so creature heavy right now. Decks either run this card, or they run ways to handle this card because a Tymna sitting on the board for 1-3 rotations gives such a fat advantage the pilot runs away with the game.
  • Timetwister - A card that sees play because you save slot efficiency by spamming TT to create a loop of infinitely recasting spells, plus its a wheel effect for 3 mana that shits on decks assembling combos through the GY with cards. I'm totally hunky dory with high efficiency combos, but losing to a timetwister loop is boring, cumbersome, and takes the pilot 30 years to demonstrate and explain the loop to those who haven't seen it. Combined with the ridiculous price of the card, and the ridiculous powerlevel even outside the combo, this card should go. This is also another card that makes fast mana extremely degenerate, as someone going first and sticking Mana Crypt into Sol Ring into Chrome Mox into Timetwister feels extremely bad, and opponents don't even have the benefit of recurring their starting hand from the GY later on.
  • Sylvan Library - The green Rhystic Study. Doesn't make decks more interesting. Doesn't make games more interesting. Its just cheap ways to get cards that becomes more ridiculous in the context of a format where you have double the starting life of the format this was printed for. The auto-include nature of this card means decks open up more when this card is removed.
  • Lion's Eye Diamond - No, Razakats is not an interesting combo. No, bomberman is not an interesting combo. These are both degenerate and more shoe-horn "oh I need a combo to win" style combos. Bomberman is extremely degenerate as LED can be recovered in the face of targeted GY removal by simply stacking the Salvager trigger on top of the removal if you have extra floating mana, and pretty much the only way to really stop it is a replacement effect like Rest in Peace. Seeing someone play a bomberman combo then dump mana into their outlet from the CZ (whether it be Thrasios, Triton Hero or Breya, Etherium Shaper) isn't interesting, although I will admit it is fast. This card is much lower on my list of requested bans, but it is still there for how annoying Bomberman and razakats are, plus how easy this makes Doomsday piles.
  • Hermit Druid - I want this gone for the same reason Consultation and Pact should go. Boring deckbuilding that becomes "UGx deck can run Hermit and Oracle to win", and thus you end up with twenty different UGx decks that look the same. Once you have seen this combo once, there isn't much merit to seeing it again. This card isn't as bad as Consult or Pact in my opinion, and once again it is a much lower priority for banning than those cards, as it requires a haste enabler to make it truly degenerate, or a way to flash it in at EOT before your untap step.

Cards I would avoid banning

As the title reads, things I think aren't a problem but usually draw comments for bans.

  • Cheap tutors like Vampiric Tutor and Imperial Seal - Every single 1 CMC tutor goes to top of deck (besides Gamble and Steelshaper's Gift), which means you're -1 card advantage for casting them. Having the ability to assemble combos or seek a problem solving card doesn't blow the format out of proportion. Having players be able to assemble threats in a timely manner makes the format faster and more interactive. If you see an opponent tutoring, you know to hold up interaction or try to race them. I'm more interested in removing hyper degenerate combos that are hard to interact with or are resilient enough to win through interaction.
  • Fast mana like Mana Crypt or Mox Diamond - If fast mana is banned, all decks will require Green for speed purposes from the high amount of turn 1 dorks (read: accelerators) available. Stax would become 100% dead as an archetype with these bans outside of Hatebear builds that include Green.
  • Free counterspells like FoW or Pact of Negation - Keeps combo decks in check. Similar to how Force of Will keeps Legacy from being overrun by super speed combos, these cards also keep Commander in check.

SideBae on Flash Consultation [[cEDH Primer]]

1 month ago

Why not just run Thrasios, Triton Hero and Tymna the Weaver? Then you could run Nomads en-Kor and Cephalid Illusionist to win with Flash+Protean Hulk+Thassa's Oracle...

I think running white would be beneficial. You get access to things like Dovin's Veto and Swords to Plowshares, and you can use Tymna the Weaver to draw cards. I have a feeling Tasigur, the Golden Fang is likely too slow for cEDH. At least, that's my experience.

enpc on Polymorph vs Pod decks

1 month ago

Pod decks are designed to leverage Birthing Pod lines, i.e. creatures of increasing CMC. There is also Prime Speaker Vannifar and Yisan, the Wanderer Bard who fit into this category.

A really basic Birthing Pod line might be (using Thrasios, Triton Hero/Tymna the Weaver as your commanders):

From here you can generat infinite mana, recast Thrasios and combo off.That line is quite compact however has to be done over multiple turns or requires an external untapper. There are lines which include cards like Felidar Guardian which can combo off in one turn:

On the other hand, Polymorph or Mass Polymorph decks are designed with a very low creature count, however all of the creatures have huge impact (think Blightsteel Colossus). Then you use non-creature token generators (e.g. Lingering Souls) to give you fodder to polymorph into big stuff for cheap.

There is also Proteus Staff decks which can be polymorph decks, or can be completely creatureless except of the commander. Since staff lets you order the cards you put back (as opposed to it being random from most polymorph effects), you can stack your library basically let you play the whole deck in one hit. Elsha of the Infinite is a good example of this, since she can play the top card of your library. So you stack your deck andthen use cost reducers/untap effects to let you play all of your mana sources (e.g. mana rocks) and make them mana positive.

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