Enchantment — Aura
Enchant instant card in a graveyard
Whenever you play a sorcery spell, copy the enchanted instant card. You may play the copy without paying its mana cost. If you do, remove the enchanted card from the game and attach Spellweaver Volute to another instant card in a graveyard.
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Spellweaver Volute Discussion
3 months ago
Last known information refers to if the source of the ability ( Spellweaver Volute ) leaves the battlefield, not if the enchanted instant leaves the graveyard. The first trigger of the ability will move the Volute to a new instant, the second resolution will copy the newly enchanted card, not the old one, and move it again. If you can't enchant a new instant, Spellweaver Volute will be enchanting nothing and move to the graveyard as a state based action. Last known information will see that Spellweaver Volute was enchanting a card in a graveyard and look for that card, but still fail to find it, so you won't get to copy anything.
3 months ago
I was right in the case of Spellweaver Volute . It had been some time since I had read the rules for when last known information is used. This case neatly fits into the usage of last known information.
113.7a Once activated or triggered, an ability exists on the stack independently of its source. Destruction or removal of the source after that time won’t affect the ability. Note that some abilities cause a source to do something (for example, “Prodigal Pyromancer deals 1 damage to any target”) rather than the ability doing anything directly. In these cases, any activated or triggered ability that references information about the source for use while announcing an activated ability or putting a triggered ability on the stack checks that information when the ability is put onto the stack. Otherwise, it will check that information when it resolves. In both instances, if the source is no longer in the zone it’s expected to be in at that time, its last known information is used. The source can still perform the action even though it no longer exists.
3 months ago
Your first two points are correct, So I am not going to address anything you said in them. I will address the rest of the question in the order the ideas are presented. Though it isn't going to be a nice ordered list, because some of your numbered points are mixing cards that operate differently.
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind triggers off of drawing cards, not casting spells. The effect of the spell triggered Niv, not the casting of the spell, so Veyran, Voice of Duality has no interaction. Baral is the same. As is anything that doesn't trigger from casting a spell.
No cards in MtG need an extra cost to trigger. They trigger and go on the stack, and then have an optional cost to have an effect. Lunar Mystic and Mirari will trigger twice. You can pay as each trigger resolves to get the effect. You can pay for none, one, or both.
An instant or sorcery that triggers Knowledge Pool or Eye of the Storm will trigger them twice. Knowledge Pool requires you to exile the spell to have an effect, so only the first to resolve will have an effect, though there will be two triggers. Eye of the Storm doesn't require you to have exiled the spell to get the effect, so both triggers will have an effect.
Spellweaver Volute is an interesting case. I will look up the rules to copying objects that have left the expected zone and get back to you on it. My gut feeling is that 2 copies of the instant will be made.
3 months ago
I'm probably not the only one confused with which triggers Veyran, Voice of Duality works with.
603.1. Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as “[When/Whenever/At] [trigger condition or event], [effect]. [Instructions (if any).]”
So cards like Guttersnipe or cards with magecraft clearly work (she triggers her own magecraft), cool, no problem.
There seems to be a consensus that cards with prowess and similar ( Stormchaser Mage , Aetherflux Reservoir , Wavebreak Hippocamp ) also work so long as it triggers with an instant or sorcery and not another card type. Ok, so maybe the permanent's trigger condition does not need to say 'instant' or 'sorcery'.
What about if something like Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind was triggered with a Brainstorm ? Does the permanent's trigger condition need to say 'cast' too? What 'causes' the triggered ability to trigger? Is it the casting or the drawing? Same question with Baral, Chief of Compliance .
How does Spellweaver Volute work? DO you get two copies of the same instant?
2 years ago
Storm is not my forte I really cant help you with this deck. All I can do is name cards for what you are asking and it sounds like you are looking for spells that can copy spells. Bonus Round, Cloven Casting, Cooperate, Doublecast, Dual Casting, Dualcaster Mage, Echo Mage, Fork, Fury Storm, Howl of the Horde, Increasing Vengeance, Insidious Will, Meletis Charlatan, Radiate, Reverberate, Rowan Kenrith, Sigil Tracer, Spellweaver Volute, Swarm Intelligence, The Mirari Conjecture, Thousand-Year Storm, Twincast, Wild Ricochet, Will Kenrith,
3 years ago
Tapping into their graveyard can be done with Diluvian Primordial, Chancellor of the Spires, Memory Plunder, Spelltwine or Spellweaver Volute. Unfortunately it's only to cast instants or sorceries, you really need black to get their creatures.
3 years ago
I found Reverberate which is basically a fork, but far less $$$. Wish I found it a few months back! Only costs
I believe Spellweaver Volute is the only card of its type, and it is great. Thanks
3 years ago
nibsey Hey, I already have Cyclonic Rift here but I like the other two. I do run Reiterate already so i'll have to test and see if fork is worth it since reiterate is so versatile and combos out. I checked out your deck and I gotta say I really dig Spellweaver Volute! Didn't even know it existed but that is super interesting.