Liege of the Tangle
Creature — Elemental
Whenever Liege of the Tangle deals combat damage to a player, you may choose any number of target lands you control and put an awakening counter on each of them. Each of those lands is an 8/8 green Elemental creature for as long as it has an awakening counter on it. They're still lands.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Liege of the Tangle Discussion
1 week ago
This is a really cool deck that I think capitalizes on a cute interaction with mutate!
If the goal is to avoid killing your own creatures with Sarulf's trigger, I'd add move ways to animate lands. Budget ways to do this would be awaken and pseudo-awaken spells like Earthen Arms, Awakening of Vitu-Ghazi, and Liege of the Tangle or more temporary effects like Sylvan Awakening. Hissing Quagmire is a bit expensive, but you seem to have a little wiggle room and would also go great in here. I'd definitely add a Darksteel Citadel if you can fit it in your budget, so that way you have an indestructible permanent you can animate and mutate onto.
Thanks for sharing the deck!
1 month ago
Thank you zapyourtumor for your Input!
Maybe this Dude Liege of the Tangle would rly be funny in here ^.^
1 month ago
4 months ago
twechsler, as far as I know, only the creator of a deck can look at the acquireboard. So for me to evaluate any cards there, you'd have to move them to the maybeboard first. I'll give my thoughts on some of the aforementioned cards for now at least.
Woodland Wanderer needs to be cast with Converge 2 to be decent and 3+ to really be good, so I probably wouldn't add it to a mono-green deck. For Wakewood Elemental, I'm assuming you meant either Wakeroot Elemental or Whisperwood Elemental . I really like the latter in midrange decks and would have no qualms about adding it here. The former, on the other hand, costs too much to activate its ability while leaving your lands open to creature removal. Liege of the Tangle sort of does the same thing but better, although you do need to be very cautious of Wrath of God s with it too lest you immediately lose all of your permanents. Omnath, Locus of Mana is a very insane card in the right circumstances, hence its similarly insane price tag. I've seen players go off with Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Gaea's Cradle to produce hundreds of mana in a turn without any major combos and save up for something ridiculous like Helix Pinnacle or Finale of Devastation . In your deck, it looks more like you want to be using all of your mana on each turn to curve out into larger and larger threats. Omnath would still be good, but I don't know that he's worth the price right now. Speaking of expensive cards, Wurmcoil Engine might be something to look for since it's both a strong bomb to ramp into and has deathtouch on 2 of its 3 bodies. Asceticism is another that's good for keeping guys alive.
A card I missed talking about in my last comment is Predator Ooze . It's definitely interesting and I see it working well in a Hardened Scales stompy deck alongside its +1/+1 buddies, Experiment One , Pelt Collector , Avatar of the Resolute , etc. If you're not running ways to take advantage of counters, maybe Steel Leaf Champion would perform better in the 3-drop slot. I'd still be more inclined to put a mana dork or Cultivate or Harrow or something there instead. It just depends how fast you want the deck to be. Stompy doesn't usually run many cards that cost more than 4 CMC, so you'd need some major tweaks to move in that direction.
5 months ago
libraryjoy the way I want it to play is getting ahead on mana enough to drop one of the heavy hitters like Liege of the Tangle or End-Raze Forerunners . I mostly play just with friends who primarily rely on creatures. This is why I agree with the above comment suggesting I add more Lure and deathtouch creatures so I can easily wipe their defense. I also really like Engulfing Slagwurm and I feel like that fits well with how I play so I'm most likely going to get one or two of them and toss one or two of the high mana cost creatures I have. So basically the ideal strategy is to get tons of mana play tons of creatures, don't let them get a chance to block. Doesn't always happen that way but that's the goal. Thank you for helping me out!
5 months ago
Liege of the Tangle is fun if you have a lot of lands.
7 months ago
Sorry for the very lengthy reply. I just got swept up in this.
I've only played two games so my experience overall isn't going to tell me enough about how certain cards perform in various situations or if they're not synergizing enough with your strategy. I'm guessing you're on a budget. If your playgroup allows proxies, or money isn't an issue. Gaea's Cradle is always a great option in a deck that generates lots of token creatures, and you're already running Crop Rotation . The budget option to cradle though is Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip. When I began my 2nd game playing this deck I was very concerned since one opponent was running Angus Mackenzie which usually just neuters this kind of strategy. I mean I lost that game for other reasons, but if it had dragged on I probably would need a lot of luck to have instant speed removal for Angus and enough power to alpha strike or I'd just lose to forever fog. That's certainly an edge case, but a tad more removal could be helpful to rid yourself of problematic creatures or other effects. Song of the Dryads and Kenrith's Transformation are a couple of great options. The only other creature that doesn't do something like fight that shot to the front of my mind to get around Angus was Questing Beast .
However, simply looking at the list and thinking about good options in general I would say the following cards should be considered for replacement:
- Colossal Majesty its a bit slow compared to other green card draw. Sylvan Library is probably the best replacement if money is no issue. Beast Whisperer is decent and you can tutor it. There are great one-time effects considering the swarm you usually have like Shamanic Revelation and Regal Force . Harmonize is always a solid option. Oakhame Adversary is usually getting through because of deathtouch and you can always leave him as a blocker. Depending on your meta Runic Armasaur can net you plenty of cards.
- Liege of the Tangle feels like you'd be better off with something that helps finish the game the turn it enters the battlefield for this much mana. Craterhoof Behemoth or something like that would be nice, but if you're content with the pump that you get from Kamahl then perhaps Bane of Progress would be nice to wipe the pesky artifacts and enchantments. God-Eternal Rhonas is another decent buff to finish with. Great Oak Guardian could potentially be a finisher with your ability to turn lands into creatures and Temur Sabertooth as a way to recast the treefolk again and again.
- Nylea, Keen-Eyed I feel like she is a decent card, especially since she is indestructible, but her activated ability is pretty costly for only digging 1 card. I would prefer Duskwatch Recruiter Flip for this kind of effect and if it flips it does the cost reduction. If you're after an indestructible creature here then Rhonas the Indomitable is great for the deathtouch as a blocker or threat, and his pump + trample effect. For other nice cost reducers there's Emerald Medallion and Rhonas's Monument .
- Curious Herd was a dead card for me in one of my games where I drew it. I ended up discarding it when I ended a turn at 8 cards in hand. I can see that it has potential in some matchups, but its is a bit meta dependent. Arachnogenesis would probably be an upgrade in many cases, but again meta dependant.
- Magus of the Order I was surprised when I saw this in my hand because I didn't realize it had been printed. 2020 was a blur. However, as it stands there were not a lot of great targets for this to go tutor into play. Avenger, Nyxbloom, of Baloths were the primary options to me since Leige needs to swing and connect in order to do something and wait a turn before the lands can attack giving opponents a chance to wipe your board (including 8/8 lands). Actual Natural Order would be preferable since it is less telegraphed, but still need better finisher, utility, value to tutor for. Craterhoof, Bane of Progress, or maybe something like Apex Devastator for all the silly cascades.
- Roiling Regrowth -> Harrow (generally won't get countered so the additional cost on cast of sacrificing a land is a minimal risk) or if you want a body Springbloom Druid .
- Bow of Nylea it certainly has its utility, but something like Ohran Frostfang may be better for the deathtouch buff and supplemental card draw.
Other cards to consider:
- Skyshroud Claim it doesn't have the option to cycle, but untapped lands can really help in situations where you've doubled or tripled your mana produced.
- Zendikar Resurgent is just a great card.
- Eternal Witness works great with Temur Sabertooth and is generally just a great card.
- Overwhelming Stampede just a nice alternative finisher to Kamahl incase he's too expensive to get back on the field.
- Kogla, the Titan Ape not a lot of humans in your current iteration to have his bounce ability be useful like Temur Sabertooth , but he's still another way to fight a problematic creature and he can remove an artifact/enchantment per attack.
- Champion of Lambholt with so many token creatures you can get this up to a point where your creatures are unblockable.
- Soul of the Harvest is another solid source of incremental card draw.
- Triumph of the Hordes is a nice surprise finisher, especially against someone with near-infinite life.
- Carpet of Flowers meta dependent, but excellent ramp.
- Elder Gargaroth beefy, and has useful options every attack.
- Bellowing Tanglewurm since Kamahl already can pump, this can help get your alpha strike in.
- Kamahl, Fist of Krosa can just be a fun deterrent to board wipes if you have enough mana available to turn your opponent's lands into creatures in response.
- Oracle of Mul Daya just amazing for landfall theme.
- Gaea's Touch is a budget friendly option to help put more lands into play per turn, but they need to be basic forests.
- Tireless Tracker a bit grindy, but nice way to spend mana when you have nothing better to do. Also the treasure token trigger Kodama of the East Tree to allow you to put another land into play.
Some combo suggestions:
- Quirion Ranger + Ashaya, Soul of the Wild to use the ranger's ability to return the ranger and untap any other creature that can tap for mana to recast the range and repeat for infinite cast triggers, creature ETB triggers for other permanents that care, and "landfall" triggers. Scryb Ranger can also work if your "lands" produce an additional green or if you have a way to give them haste like Lightning Greaves or Concordant Crossroads .
- Cloudstone Curio + Kodama of the East Tree to put a land into play, bounce another land, resolve Kodama trigger to put that land back into play and bounce the first land for as many additional lands you can play per turn. This becomes infinite if you have a permanent that generates any kind of token on landfall trigger.
11 months ago
I could see cutting a couple of top end, cmc wise, cards to run a little more interaction. But that's just my tastes most likely.