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Journey of Discovery
Choose one - Search your library for up to two basic land cards, reveal them, put them into your hand, then shuffle your library; or you may play up to two additional lands this turn.
Entwine (2)(Green) (Choose both if you pay the entwine cost.)
Journey of Discovery Discussion
3 weeks ago
You can definitely make Omnath, Locus of Rage competitive. I have a friend who plays it.
Ramp is your best friend. And Sac Outlets are your best friend along with some wrath effects.
Cards that you need to make the deck function better are Explore type effects: Oracle of Mul Daya , Azusa, Lost but Seeking , Exploration , Explore , Enter the Unknown , Journey of Discovery , Mina and Denn, Wildborn , Summer Bloom , Wayward Swordtooth ... These work to great effect in getting the most out of Omnath's triggered ability and might hinder your opponents' plans of sweeping the board.
Also, you should be running more lands than the usual EDH deck because you want to be able to keep playing lands.
Recursion is also what will assist in the control metas: Regrowth , Eternal Witness , Den Protector , Greenwarden of Murasa , Recollect , The Mending of Dominaria ... These will help you maintain use of the cards that get removed. Also it allows you to let your general go to Graveyard and get it back to cast it for regular CMC.
You could also use some triggers upon a creature entering the battlefield: Electropotence , Impact Tremors , In the Web of War , Mana Echoes , Warstorm Surge , Purphoros, God of the Forge , Colossal Majesty , Elemental Bond ...
The world is your "oyster" good sir! So have at it. And happy shuffling. Hope this helps.
1 month ago
Abundance Primeval Bounty Retreat to Kazandu Seismic Assault Burgeoning Khalni Heart Expedition The Mending of Dominaria Rites of Flourishing Expedition Map Sword of the Animist Traverse the Ulvenwald Journey of Discovery Nature's Lore Farseek Ground Assault Nissa's Renewal Broken Bond The Great Aurora Hour of Promise Skyshroud Claim Nissa's Pilgrimage Verdant Confluence Rampant Growth Animist's Awakening Scapeshift Boundless Realms Sylvan Scrying Explosive Vegetation Struggle Realms Uncharted Crop Rotation
dingusdingo on Flex
2 months ago
Nice deck! A lot of neat combos tucked in here. I have some suggested edits for you though!
Mouth of Ronom is a card you could very easily run. Green doesn't have a lot of targeted removal, and the opportunity cost for playing it is extremely low. If you swap your forests for snow covered forests, you're golden
I'm confused why you're running a fetchland at all. You don't need color fixing, and the deck thinning is extremely marginal when you consider how much it can slow you down against cards like Root Maze Back to Basics Thalia, Heretic Cathar Blood Moon Magus of the Moon Frozen AEther Kismet
Some of the card draw you run is pretty inefficient or extremely expensive. I'm specifically looking at Seer's Sundial and Sandstone Oracle . Sundial costs you 6 mana for the first card, while Sandstone is always dependent on opponents hand sizes for card draw, making it unreliable (and also costing 7 mana). I'm also not a huge fan of Sea Gate Wreckage but the opportunity cost for running it is extremely low. Have you considered Memory Jar or Howling Mine ? With your massive mana production Memory Jar could allow you to draw 7 and dump your entire hand. Howling Mine will accelerate your draws much earlier, although it is symmetrical. Beast Whisperer could be a good replacement if you don't want to give advantage to opponents, you certainly run enough creatures to justify. Life's Legacy is also a solid choice, especially since you're already running Greater Good
You run quite a few basic land tutors, some of them pretty low card quality. When you have access to Gaea's Cradle and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , why are you spending mana and card resources looking for basic lands? Specifically looking at Cultivate Kodama's Reach Nissa's Pilgrimage Seek the Horizon Journey of Discovery and Yavimaya Elder . If you ran fewer than 40 lands in this deck, you probably wouldn't have to run so many cards to deck thin to help your top deck, you could pretty easily cut to 34-36 lands. I'm also not wild about the very high CMC Hour of Promise , but it does search for non-basics. I'm also not very hyped about Tempt with Discovery , if you are playing against even mediocre or up skill level opponents you will be paying 4 CMC to search for one non-basic land. You're only getting more than one land off Tempt against bad players, or against players who can drop a Gaea's Cradle or other super value land against you.
Speaking of ramp, you should consider running Priest of Titania as well as Karametra's Acolyte . Currently you are very vulnerable to Armageddon and Ravages of War , two cards that see play in stax decks (as well as others). Having Ramunap and Crucible is a good choice, but you won't have access to those every single game you get hit by Armageddon. You should really consider mainboarding Carpet of Flowers as well, its virtually guaranteed someone will be running blue in a pod of 4, and it will let you hit turn 2 Azusa, and provide more value as the game goes later for very small investment.
On the topic of Stax, your deck is super vulnerable to getting caught. Almost all your draw is 3+ CMC, you have basically no removal, and you run a barebones 0/1/2 CMC ramp package. Thorn of Amethyst Sphere of Resistance Winter Orb Static Orb Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Lodestone Golem all cause immense problems for your deck. I understand that if you start your draw engine, you can escape from underneath them by dumping lands with your commander, but what do you do if one of those stax pieces lands on turn 1? Going fast works against stax, but there's no way you're going faster than a deck that runs the full suite of 0/1/2 cmc artifact ramp (which most stax decks do). You aren't going fast enough to threaten a win on turn 3, so you need to include removal. Having no removal is also a huge problem when beatdown is your wincon. What do you do against Moat ? Or Island Sanctuary ? Or Solitary Confinement ? A single piece of removal in the form of an 8 cmc creature is just not gonna cut it against real decks.
I would also recommend casting a really critical eye towards anything 5+ cmc. Cards that cost that much that don't actively win or directly lead to winning are most likely not worth the mana investment or the card space, even though you are a deck that ramps mana and draws cards. To put it in other terms, there are better things you could be doing with that mana. Your primary win con costs 10 mana to cast, 20 more to use, for a whopping 30 mana. Its forcing you to run pretty low quality cards like Mana Reflection and Zendikar Resurgent to get to that absurd amount of mana, on top of 40 lands. Running lower CMC spells will allow you to free up those expensive CMC slots that only enable you to play other expensive spells.
A couple more cards in specific you should reconsider Akroma's Memorial Ring of Three Wishes . Memorial you can replace with Lightning Greaves as a haste enabler for Craterhoof Lines, and Ring happens to cost you 10 mana to get a single card to hand, 15 for 2 cards, 20 for 3 cards, which we would call inefficient.
Would recommend Staff of Domination , especially if you include Priest of Titania or Karametra's Acolyte . Opens up lines for infinite mana and drawing your deck, or just provides a solid dump when you have too much mana and nowhere to go. I would also recommend Eldritch Evolution as another strong tutor. Uncage the Menagerie and Weird Harvest are a bit lower quality, but potentially what you're looking for as well. And I can't stress enough, add some removal to your deck. There are plenty of hyper efficient 1/2 cmc removal spells in green, as well as creatures that pack removal on ETB, which combines well with all the green tutors you run.
3 months ago
I think you'd want to focus on proliferate and putting +1/+1 counters on your creatures.
I think that you have a larger number of enchantments then you need. Here are my suggestions to sharpen this area of your deck. Web of Inertia should be replaced with Inexorable Tide . Sheltered Aerie can be replaced with Hardened Scales . This next swab can be a large chunk of money but is a significant upgrade. Asceticism is an upgrade for Shielding Plax . It is up to you but I would cut Beastmaster Ascension and Bred for the Hunt . You can replace them with value creatures that allow you to utilize your commander.
For Sorcery, I am going to again focus on proliferate. Miming Slime creates a creature who can be powerful but not of value, instead I would put in Tezzeret's Gambit . Verdant Confluence is a good card but beings with it a high mana cost. Triumph of the Hordes is cheaper, buffs all your creatures, and threatens your opponents with an infect trample attack. I would replace Confluence with the Triumph of the Hordes card. Cultivate could be more versatile and cheaper then Journey of Discovery .
Now instants. Druid's Deliverance focuses on populate. This ability is for doubling tokens and not counters. Krosan Grip is more value as you get to remove a target artifact or enchantment. Your other cards are good choices but preventing combat damage just slows you down. I would remove Respite and Root Snare . You can use this spot to add 2 more creatures that will buff your experience counters.
Lands look great! Some suggestions would be Yavimaya Coast , Temple of Mystery , Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse , Botanical Sanctum , and Hinterland Harbor . Sand Silos can slow you down somewhat and Darksteel Citadel only produces colorless mana. It is up to you on how you want to combine these suggestions. My last note is that your land count should be between 37 and 39 to make sure you can constantly play mana and don't get stuck.
Creatures are the bread and butter of your deck. You need them for those experience counters, so let's start putting in some value creatures that benefit you. Wall of Mist is a defender that will never attack, instead lets try to put in Chasm Skulker . Skulker can get very scary and when he is removed, you have an army of tokens. Cultivator of Blades can help to power up your creatures on an attack, triggers an experience counter, and is cheaper in mana then Oran-Rief Hydra . Druid of the Cowl can be upgraded with Gyre Sage . Sakura-Tribe Scout and Wayward Swordtooth allow you to play additional lands but this doesn't benefit your gameplan. Herald of Secret Streams and Champion of Lambholt are good value cards to replace them. Gladehart Cavalry is very expensive mana wise. Vorel of the Hull Clade is a great replacement that doubles your counters. Overgrown Armasaur should be replaced with Managorger Hydra .
3 months ago
bushido_man96 glad to be of help.
Both cards allow you to drop lands from your hand into play, which synergises well with your Moonfolk army. Journey doubles up as Basic Land tutor, if drawn late game, you can easily pay the entwine cost to enjoy both abilities.
Throwing it out for your consideration. Happy tweaking and play testing!
3 months ago
For removals, other than what I mentioned in my first comment, I'd suggest taking out:
- Essence Warden - you aren't a lifegain deck and have no other support for it
- Genesis Hydra - maybe it's just me, but I'm not a fan of this card, especially compared to Genesis Wave, which you have
- Sphinx Ambassador - it just seems like it doesn't match the rest of the theme of the deck
- Mind Over Matter - you don't currently have enough draw power to support this
- Journey of Discovery - replace this with some other ramp spell/ramp artifact that can get non-basics for less than six mana
- Quicksilver Amulet - this is a worse Planar Bridge, isn't it?
- Nissa, Steward of Elements - her +2 is meh. Her +0 is also meh since you have so many non-land, non-creature cards in the deck. And her -6 is also meh. I'd much prefer something like Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip as her +1 gives a similar effect but her other abilities are more useful. Vivien Reid would (though expensive) be fantastic as would Garruk, Primal Hunter or Garruk, Caller of Beasts .
- Tamiyo, the Moon Sage - you aren't trying to play staxy
3 months ago
If I may, I would suggest putting in Llanowar Elves and Elvish Mystic to keep your curve down and help with the ramp as you try to fish for more lands early on. Borderland Ranger is another good budget option that can get you more lands early. Journey of Discovery is a fantastic sorcery for land ramp. Depending on your group's meta, Runic Armasaur might be another cheap option for card draw. I see you have some hydras lined up as possibilities, Mistcutter Hydra is a fantastic card against control decks that run blue and Savageborn Hydra will be absolutely titanic if it hits the field! Polukranos, World Eater is another fun hydra that fights opponents creatures when you make it monstrous.
I don't think you should discount having other enchantments either since Nikya tries to discourage that. Zendikar Resurgent has dipped in price and having good card draw on top of ramp can be a win-win.
It would be good for you to have some redundancy for making your creatures uncounterable. Prowling Serpopard and Spellbreaker Behemoth are both good options and Vexing Shusher if you want to spend extra. Adding something to give creatures haste from the get go is also nice to have outside of your Rhythm of the Wild. Anger is just a solid option at about 50 cents and Urabrask the Hidden does that and then some, too.
These are just some of my thoughts as a fellow G/R player. I honestly love Nikya and seeing someone putting a deck together is exciting! Hope some of the suggestions get you on the track you want, whether you take them or not.
4 months ago
So here are some suggestions. You already have the additional land drop cards covered, but I think you could use more cards that put lands directly into you instead of the battlefield. That way you can maximize your commander (and Sasaya) to their full potential. I think additions like Thaumatic Compass Flip (it even becomes a Maze of Ith later on!), Journey of Discovery, Life from the Loam (not very budget, but suuuper powerful here), Abundance, and Realm Seekers would greatly benefit you deck.
Good luck deck building!
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