Primal Vigor and Hydras and Copies

Asked by belugawhaleonthefloor 9 years ago

Primal Vigor says whenever a counter is PLACED on a creature, double it. What happens if the creature enters WITH counters. ex: Would Kalonian Hydra enter with 4 +1/+1 counters, or 8. Another question about Primal Vigor: lets say you have 1 Master Biomancer, and 1 Primal Vigor. I cast Stolen Identity on Master Biomancer. Would it come in as a 6/8, with 2 counters from Master Biomancer, and 2 counters from Primal Vigor. And also since they are tokens, does one enter as the 6/8, and the other one as a 18/20 because of 6+2 is 8 counters on the other Master Biomancers, doubled from Primal Vigor?? Or are they both just 6/8's?? I know this question is pretty complicated, but when I had all those cards on the field, i had no idea how to distribute the counters.

Kirtanei says... Accepted answer #1

Gatherer@Primal Vigor
"Primal Vigor affects permanents that enter the battlefield with a certain number of counters. For example, if a creature would normally enter the battlefield with three +1/+1 counters on it, it will enter with six +1/+1 counters on it."

The Master Biomancer tokens would enter the Battlefield simultaneously and receive 4 +1/+1 counters from Master Biomancer, doubled by Primal Vigor.

November 12, 2014 1:43 p.m.

Prima says... #2

Simultaneosly another Master Biomancer would come in, receiving 16 +1/+1 counters from both Master's, if I'm correct about priorty and stack. But either way, another Mater would come in due to Primal Vigor

November 13, 2014 4:26 p.m.

Prima says... #3

Shoot, you said that in your description.

November 13, 2014 4:27 p.m.

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