Heart-Piercer Manticore

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Heart-Piercer Manticore

Creature — Manticore

When Heart-Piercer Manticore enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice another creature. When you do, Heart-Piercer Manticore deals damage equal to that creature's power to target creature, player or planeswalker.

Embalm (, Exile this card from your graveyard: Create a token that's a copy of it except it's a white Zombie Manticore with no mana cost. Embalm only as a sorcery.)

Rhadamanthus on I recently heard that we …

9 months ago

The reflexive trigger creates a separate triggered ability that goes onto the stack independent of the ability that created it and follows all the normal rules for how to handle triggered abilities, including choosing targets, making responses etc. For each of those examples, the target is chosen when the reflexive trigger is put onto the stack.

There are different reasons for an effect to use a reflexive trigger.

  • For Calibrated Blast, it's to make the card easier to use effectively and reduce feel-bads (it's a big oof to hit 5 on Erratic Explosion when you just targeted a 2/2 to be safe)
  • If Heart-Piercer Manticore or Grist, the Hunger Tide used an "if you do" then you'd choose the target right away but your opponent would have to decide on their response before you decided whether or not to sacrifice anything
  • If they wanted to make the sacrifice mandatory for Grist, it would need to say "As an additional cost to activate this ability..." due to the way loyalty abilities are templated, so the reflexive trigger here also saves words/space

Delphen7 on I recently heard that we …

9 months ago

Rhadamanthus Where I get hung up is reflexive triggers. Grist, the Hunger Tide, Calibrated Blast, Heart-Piercer Manticore etc.

We only choose targets after the first part happens (I think), but can the opponent know that info before responding to it? The common practice I see, especially with Grist, is they'll choose targets immediately and sac a creature, but then the owner will protect the targeted creature.

IHATENAMES on The Maraxus Molotov

1 year ago

SirHipHopHippo

Glad to see it's working well. It's such a synergy focused deck that has many different parallel plans. Looks fun as hell to pilot.

Imposing Grandeur is such a wierd card. Would suck in most of my decks but here it's a less equal Wheel of Fortune. Ends up suprisingly good considering people mostly play mostly low cmc commander's. Me included.

But I still don't know where to tell you to cut. But here are some ideas. As you have piloted it maybe you can figure out what is better.

The deck is gotten to the point it's full of gas. Id suggest not cutting the pump spells. Cutting down some of the pump spells might be ok but you only have a few and the keldon cards best hit in practice will probably be literally a tutor for one of them to use a Fling effect in hand after blocks/combat.

Now I'd we take it like that. For now. How about replacing Outpost Siege with the Keldon Flamesage take it as a card draw slot? It might be bad 50% of the time.

Do we take enlist as a Fling esc effect and replace Heart-Piercer Manticore or Grab the Reins perhaps.

Or is Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs or Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith not pulling enough weight perhaps and you want a different effect. Maybe more so does the rocks help. Does kazul come into play early enough to matter

IHATENAMES on The Maraxus Molotov

1 year ago

Also how's your deck playing. Is it going off and surprising people or are you facing some problems? I built my equipment/treasure deck this deck inspired me to make on mtgo and it was a good time but I'm holding off on building it in paper unless I can play more magic irl. Work has me jailed practicly.

XD your list is pretty solid beyond Nesting Dragon (hehe) perhaps. I don't know where you would cut is maybe Imposing Grandeur working for you? Or the Heart-Piercer Manticore perhaps?

thefiresoflurve on Ghired, Conclave Exile

1 year ago

Scaretiller -> Solemn Simulacrum - same cost, but scare tiller has fewer cards it synergizes with in your deck. Especially since you don't have an excess of draw, and solemn can help with that a bit, too. Bonus points if you clone it with Feldon of the Third Path etc.

Leaning a bit into the red side of token creation, some things I might recommend:

Growing Ranks/Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage -> Determined Iteration - a lot cheaper for a similar effect. Note: definitely keep the Guildmage if you can manage infinite mana; it's a great outlet.

Heart-Piercer Manticore -> Fable of the Mirror-Breaker  Flip.

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Looking for efficiently large creatures

2 years ago

griffstick: It's one of these terrible cards that are pretty great once in a while.

Has anyone suggested Feldon of the Third Path, yet? Making an Impervious Greatwurm token to fling at someone's face seems pretty dope. Heart-Piercer Manticore is another good fling effect.

I did a quick search and found other fitting cards: Boldwyr Heavyweights, Cosmic Larva, Daemogoth Titan, Daemogoth Woe-Eater, Deep-Slumber Titan, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Phyrexian Soulgorger, Plague Reaver, Traxos, Scourge of Kroog

CaptCreek on Xenagos, God of Revels

3 years ago

I love the list! Xenagos has become my pet deck at this point, and definitely my favorite commander by far.

Stalking Vengeance would be something I'd ask you to consider, because it has the potential to be a way more threatening alternative to Heart-Piercer Manticore. Granted, the manticore is 3 less mana to cast, but Vengeance checks every creature when it dies, so the damage potential is much higher. I've ended plenty of games by getting out Sneak Attack, then sneaking out the vengeance, and Blightsteel Colossus as well as any other big threats in my hand, and then sacrificing them at the end step (Or immediately to Greater Good) and instantly killing one or multiple opponents.

Xenagos is SO fun, and if you wanna take a look at my take on a build, you're more than welcome to!

Xenagos's Party Animals

multimedia on

4 years ago

Hey, you're welcome :)

What's the max budget you have to make card upgrades? When you finish making upgrades what price range can you have for total deck cost? The precon for example at $60 is low and I would hope you could afford at least $50 for upgrades. If you can afford more expensive price cards then my card suggestions will be different then if you can't. Smothering Tithe and Birds of Paradise for example are very good cards for ramp, but they might be too expensive for the budget.

What advice about upgrades would you like?

Some cards from the precon that can be cut since they're not as good as others or don't have good enough synergy with Ghired:

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