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Commander / EDH PartyJ

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First changes for 2017! —March 3, 2017

Hello dear friends,

it has been a hectic start of the year. I've been away alot of time untill now. Lots of time abroad, meaning that I had little to no time to deal with MtG. But............ I have read all the great comments that came by and believe me when I say that I truely admire your thoughts and still encourage all of you to post whatever you wish to share with all of us. You made this deck great and wonderful to play and even when I did not react on your comments, I still read them and use them for future considerations.

This brings me to the latest changes being made:

Nissa, Vastwood Seer  Flip has left the building. Slowly but surely she wasn't able to retain her position. The carddraw was solid, but other tools became more powerful. She recieved an honorable retirement.

Stoneforge Mystic was an one-trick pony that has been 'outtricked' by other more consistent options. No legendary on her dogtag, so I gave this Mystic lots of spare time.

Constant Mists was blown away and will be replaced by something that supports the gameplan. It was fun to play, but it's time for a next step....

***** _ C u r t a i n _ f a l l s _ *********

Inventors' Fair : This card was suggested earlier on, but in 'those' days I wasn't so artifact heavy as it is now. This land can tutor ANY artifact, which makes it more viable and this tutor can be found with Captain Sisay. It's time for action...

Talisman of Unity : An artifact which ramps, aids the new Fair and interacts with Paradox Engine, A good support card!

Reki, the History of Kamigawa : This can become pretty silly when Paradox Engine is out on the battlefield. Both of these cards can be found with the Captain and have great interaction with eachother. A storm of cards is the result. I can't wait to see this happening.


Special thanks goes to Worx and enpc for pointing out some great interactions that mainly led to this update.


Next project that is coming closer to completion: A proper primer for this deck.

Daedalus19876 says... #1

PartyJ: Thought you might be interested in hearing this - I'm in an EDH group on Facebook, and when someone asked for help on a Sisay deck, within ten seconds someone linked to this as the optimal example :)

December 20, 2016 2:13 a.m.

brackcon says... #2

What's the Facebook group?

December 20, 2016 6:04 a.m.

PartyJ says... #3

Hi guys,

I have been pretty busy, so I was unable to get all your interesting comments handled.

I promise I will get to all of them as soon as possible.

For now I want to make you all aware of the newest deck update which I have just posted. You can find it right under the deck's description.

Thanks!

December 20, 2016 4:52 p.m.

Gleeock says... #4

So any Sisay players jazzed up about those new sneak peak cards for Aether Revolt: I am more excited about the Planar Bridge than the Paradox Engine but they both have a lot of potential.

Hope the Planar Bridge is cheap since most players are probably not going to want 8 cost tutoring + battlefield placement.

January 1, 2017 10:30 a.m.

Emzed says... #5

A card that requires as much as 14 mana before it does anything at all is extremely niche, and probably rather bad. It's potentially better than Planar Portal or Ring of Three Wishes, but i don't think the effect will see play outside of EDH. And even in EDH, i expect it to be a casual card, not one for a deck like this one.

January 1, 2017 11:59 a.m.

Gleeock says... #6

I've pulled that kindof mana pretty quick in my Sisay deck, Ive had several games now where I pull Multani, Maro-Sorcerer & a hasted Selvala, Heart of the Wilds I know for me mana base hasn't been so much of a problem as finding a way to tutor & plop my non-legendary on to the battlefield... I could certainly afford to replace Yisan, the Wanderer Bard & it can be tutored out unlike Planar Portal or Ring of Three Wishes.... Same thing goes for Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx..Gaea's Cradle as far as ridiculous Sisay mana pooping engines go.

That card is going to be a fantastic way to tutor & play Seedborn Muse & really put a squeeze on the gonads

January 1, 2017 9:55 p.m.

Gleeock says... #7

Also excited to use Planar Bridge to make a viable planeswalker plopper in my Sisay deck (if I wanted to go in the Planeswalker direction some more)

January 2, 2017 4:18 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #8

If any deck can abuse Planar Portal and Paradox Engine it's Sisay.

My personal opinion: Paradox Engine 1000% deserves a slot here, but Planar Portal does not. Consider:

This deck's playing 12 nonlands that tap for mana - they essentially give free mana with Paradox Engine out. Since Sisay is a tutor that requires tapping, every time you cast a spell you can tutor a legendary. That means you have several combos, but most notably Captain Sisay+Gilded Lotus+Paradox Engine would allow you to cast every legendary permanent in your deck with CMC 3 or less.

It also fetches/casts Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, which is the second combo. With Selvala, Heart of the Wilds+Captain Sisay+Paradox Engine, you can literally cast every card in your deck (especially if you re-add Reki, the History of Kamigawa to the list) by "stepping" upwards in power. More notably...EVERY CARD IN THIS INFINITE COMBO IS TUTORABLE WITH YOUR COMMANDER.

Plus, you know, even if you don't combo, getting an extra tutor with Sisay for every spell you cast is absurd :D

However, I think Planar Bridge is less good here. Almost everything you want to cast is legendary and already tutorable with Sisay. And only two cards in your deck are above 8 mana (the activation cost) - if you want something, you can just find it and hardcast it.

If you face a lot of control I could see it I guess (since the PB targets can't be countered, and it grabs at instant speed) but I think that's enough of a corner case to be useless here.

January 2, 2017 4:52 p.m.

Gleeock says... #9

Yeah, I spose Planar Bridge makes more sense in mine, I play a small amount of non-legendary cards that are in there because they are very solid if I draw in to them. If I already have Avacyn out I like to plop down one of my many non-tutorable mass-hexproof cards like Archetype of Endurance or Privileged Position or the 2nd half of a busted combo like; Worldslayer for my Avacyn.... & as I mentioned Seedborn Muse Then I spend the next upkeep Sisay-searching Yeva, Nature's Herald -- Then you are running around with a mock prophet of Kruphix

January 2, 2017 6:05 p.m.

You'd be surprised at how powerful an Eye of Ugin backing those Eldrazi's would be. Just remember not to count it as a land!.

February 4, 2017 12:14 p.m.

Daedalus19876 and you can finish that combo by grabbing Azusa, Lost but Seeking + Inventors' Fair, cracking it for a Aetherflux Reservoir and with enough storm count win right there without any fuss. I find the relationship with the Fair and Crucible of Worlds clowny.

As someone's who began EDH with Sisay I think you're mad for not running Saffi Eriksdotter.

February 6, 2017 6:01 p.m.
February 7, 2017 5:48 p.m.

TheSisay says... #13

Check out Hua Tuo, Honored Physician if you want to have reliable graveyard manipulation.

February 16, 2017 5:14 a.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #14

You know what I just realized? You don't have Land Tax in this list. Has it ever been under consideration?

Because 1) your deck is somewhat mana-hungry, and 2) you're already playing Scroll Rack so why not put in the most broken draw combo in all of magic? :D

I do acknowledge that its power is somewhat lessened given that you only have 6 basics in the deck. But I still think it's worth considering.

Also! Many congratulations on reaching +300 upvotes - only the 10th EDH deck ever to do so!

February 16, 2017 4:11 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #15

(I misread, you have 10 basics. My point is the same, though.)

February 16, 2017 4:44 p.m.

clubfivesix says... #16

I have a Sisay deck that is about 75% similar to this. I run more spot removal in mine, but that is as much a meta decision as anything else. This is a great deck. The best Sisay deck I've ever seen. You do a beautiful job of taking the toolbox aspect that Sisay allows but still having a clear and preferred Plan A to victory. Leaving yourself Plan B and Plan C if it all goes to crap.

I would strongly urge you to run Illusionist's Bracers. It is absolutely nuts and is almost always my tutor target with Enlightened Tutor. Maybe a just a twinge more stax elements to slow the table down as you also ramp lightning fast into your endgame?

February 17, 2017 4:29 p.m.

Gleeock says... #17

I find that with Paradox Engine & the 2 Selvala out I can basically put down my entire library in 1 turn if I want. It is ridiculously powerful & not even all that slow to happen. Also if someone breaks up the combo Paradox Engine or one of the Selvala are still strong cards in their own rights

February 19, 2017 2:29 p.m.

I just can't believe he's choosing to skip the Land Tax while already running Azusa, Lost but Seeking and Stone-Seeder Hierophant ~which incidently is pretty good with a Terrain Generator~

Unrelated, but you probably should consider Thalia's Lancers.

February 20, 2017 12:35 p.m.

Wynh says... #19

One of your combos has Command Beacon but it's not on your decklist. and wouldn't Quicksilver Amulet be good in here or even Blightsteel colossus?

February 20, 2017 3:33 p.m.

Isn't running Honor-Worn Shaku. Insanity.

February 20, 2017 4:57 p.m.

enpc says... #21

the_earl_0f_grey: Land Tax isn't really that good here. Having green means that typically you'll be the ramp player. On top of that, you have very few ways to tutor into it and you don't want to waste things like Enlightened Tutor on Land Tax when you could use it to get Umbral Mantle which outright wins games. While it's cute playing parfait, most of the time you'd rather it be something else.

Honor-Worn Shaku falls into the same category as Land Tax. Occasionally it's ok, but most of the time it's just slow. A 3 cmc rock that only taps ofr colourless is too slow, and while you can potentially get some additional mana from it, cards like Talisman of Unity are better as they can help you ramp into Sisay.

Wynh: Quicksilver Amulet used to be in the deck but was cut in place of more ramp. Ultimately, having a solid ramp package is better off than relying on a few "cheat into play" cards as you will hit the ramp more conistently and ramp menas you have more mana for non-creature spells, or consecutive creature spells.

Blightsteel Colossus is ok in more relaxed metas, but here just runs into the issue that it's not tutorable and expensive to cast. While yes, it demands an answer, so do cards like Elesh Norn which have just as much impact on the game but come down 5 turns earlier and synergise better with the rest of the deck.

February 20, 2017 10:32 p.m. Edited.

bantrules12 says... #22

have you thought about Saffi Eriksdotter and Blasting Station with Sun Titan you can deal infinite damage

February 28, 2017 10:25 a.m.