Creature — Angel
Players can't untap more than one creature during their untap steps.
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|Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3)||Rare|
|Shards of Alara (ALA)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Stoic Angel Discussion
5 months ago
This deck is definitely an interesting idea, but how is it supposed to win a game?
I strongly recommend putting Faeburrow Elder in this deck, because, for only one mana more over Bloom Tender, it can potentially have higher power and toughness, it has vigilance, and is far less expensive in terms of money.
I also think that Stoic Angel would be a very awesome card for this deck, unless she would hinder its strategy.
1 year ago
So now I'm going to organize this post is from different types of cards and alternatives and/or strictly better cards that have the same Converted mana cost!
Let's start with enchantments! It seems like your all over the place, which is fine, but you have aura enchantments and land enchantments. which seems a little weird to me! Normally you want to either go a route for your deck, and this seems unorganized, so let us fix that! Serra Aviary is a bad card, cause it also gives opponents fliers +1/+1, we don't want this. So id suggest either going with some like Citadel Siege cause sure, it won't buff all creatures, and it'll give a boost to one creature you want per turn, or it can be used defensively which is always a plus! I'd also suggest going Dictate of Heliod cause it gives an extra +1/+1 for one extra mana, AND IT HAS FLASH! For cards that are better for the 4 cmc are Light from Within , Force of Virtue , Marshal's Anthem .
For protection cards or cards that accumulate value, instead of Angelic Renewal and Angelic Accord , cards which can be good, but you don't have a whole lof of life gain or recursion to run these two! So I'd suggest cards like Sigil of the New Dawn , Kindred Boon , Privileged Position and Asceticism are 100% more effective in protecting your creatures or giving good value.
Now that we got enchantments out of the way! lets work on these instants! I love some of these instants, Absorb is a fun card that I'm 100% gonna get, same with Archmage's Charm ! Disdainful Stroke , Essence Scatter (and the like), Commencement of Festivities and Guardian Angel are all weaker versions of cards like Mana Drain and Counterspell which I'd upgrade with. I'd also suggest getting some artifact/enchantment removal such as Krosan Grip one of the best in this as it has split second, another card I highly recommend is Bant Charm one of the most versatile instant printed in these colors. some other instants i enjoy and have seen good results with are Teferi's Protection , Plasm Capture / Mana Drain , Render Silent , Arcane Denial , Dawn Charm and Heroic Intervention . Those are just some of my recommendations! I may have some more but You'd really need to let me know what direction you want to go!!
For sorceries, you're in gosh darn green! WHERE ARE THE RAMP SPELLS?!!??!!? Add Farseek , and since we have big fatty CMC angels, Recross the Paths puts in some work! Kodama's Reach and Explosive Vegetation are better than cards like Rampant Growth because 1) it gives card advantage (2 lands for 1 card) and 2) gives us more mana to work with during the late game! (this is when angel decks typically win). other ramp spells I use are Cultivate and Traverse the Outlands .
I've noticed this deck does not have a SINGLE BOARD WIPE, as big as our angels are for the CMC, we won't be able to cast them until later, board wipes are essential to have especially since you aren't running any pillow forts kind of cards, I HIGHLY recommend adding some, cards that I've always had in my white decks are Austere Command , Rout , Supreme Verdict , Cleansing Nova , Descend upon the Sinful , Planar Cleansing and Mass Calcify . Some other sources that are more focused with tribal is Harsh Mercy sure each player gets to pick a creature type, but that typically is one creature for them, and of course we'll pick angels, so we get the upper-hand in this!
We need some card draw, and this is important as I don't see any in this deck and that is a HUGE mistake. Think about adding cards like Rishkar's Expertise , Praetor's Counsel , Blue Sun's Zenith , Sphinx's Revelation , Finale of Revelation just to name a few that come to mind.
For Lands, these look just.....fine albeit slow, but not quite optimized. I totally understand how people on a budget don't run cards like Misty Rainforest and the like. But as a 3 color deck, I suggest adding in cards like Temple of Enlightenment and Temple of Plenty at least you'll get value from them coming in tapped. Other cards I'd suggest are Krosan Verge , Prairie Stream , Flooded Grove , Wooded Bastion , Seaside Citadel , Path of Ancestry , Forbidden Orchard (cause what is a 1/1 to our angels? PFFT) other lands that give some utility in a pinch are: Scattered Groves and Irrigated Farmland ! other good cards are Glacial Fortress (and it's kin), Hinterland Harbor and Temple Garden !
For Artifacts, I see the signets, I don't typically run the
and X signets just cause I like my land ramp better and won't get destroyed with target removal or artifact/enchantment wipes. but as a 3 color deck, you 100% NEED
basically makes all your mana problems go away, just tap lands for whatever color you need! If you're trying to go for some voltronish cards, I'd suggest going like
, which basically secures that you keep whatever creature you want alive for the rest of the game (unless they exile it with a spell somehow).
is also a good card as people won't want to block because it exiles shit, which is GREAT, let me tell you how many times people didn't block because they wanted to keep their creature(s).
For tribal support cards, there is a very small pool to chose from, So you might want to grab a Vanquisher's Banner , Herald's Horn , Urza's Incubator , Door of Destinies , Coat of Arms , Stoneforge Masterwork and Cryptic Gateway are some cards to look at!
Ok, lets finally get this creature situation fixed! first of, YOU'RE AN ANGEL DECK WITHOUT ITS PRIME GURL!?! WHERE IS MY Avacyn, Angel of Hope ?!?!?!??!!?!?!? I'm disappointed!!!! But for real, add her.
Other cards considering should be Metallic Mimic (if you're going for a 1/1 counter theme.) Solemn Simulacrum should go in here, he's just too good not to have here! Rhonas the Indomitable is a great mana sink, and if you really need to give trample to your creatures, Nylea, God of the Hunt is also a good alternative. Resplendent Angel is a great 3 cmc angel, don't underestimate this gurl! Sephara, Sky's Blade is also a great (shittier) version of our gurl Avacyn, Angel of Hope but still a good effect none-the-less! Iridescent Angel , for a 7 mana angel, I was hesitant at running her in my jenara deck, but has proved to be SO GOSHDARN STRONG! Can literally take ANY damage from ANYTHING (don't mention the Eldrazi to this gurl) but it has soaked up a lot of damage over my games. Archangel of Tithes is a great 4 cmc angel that gives taxes for attacking and defending! great include! Angel of Invention a fabulous card, especially if you have something that gives +1/+1 counters, say a Bow of Nylea , is a great addition to our squad! Angel of Serenity is a good card here as well! great recursion for this deck! since we're in bant, Stoic Angel is also a good include! Akroma, Angel of Wrath can't go wrong with an 8/8 creature with so many keywords and protection(s)!
Also, there is ONE card that is SO GOSHDARN UNDERRATED AND NEVER PLAYED and has literally been the BIGGEST beater I've EVER seen is non-other than Selfless Squire . THIS GURL...Where are my words for this card. It's a fog effect but you get a MASSIVE creature that has to be answered or your opponent die! I've had people swing at me for 20+ damage, not worried because of Selfless Squire and she becomes a huge creature, give her trample and/or indestructible, good game! This gurl is so badass she can oftentimes beat an ELDRAZI TITAN 1v1 (in terms of power/toughness). Best and most fun card I'VE EVER PLAYED IN A CREATURE! 50/10 would recommend!
1 year ago
I love Derevi's ability. She was actually the OG commander on my enchantress EDH deck. This deck looks great, but if you ever feel more in the need for even more tapping shenanigans, maybe try out Glare of Subdual , Stoic Angel , Kismet , Dawnglare Invoker , and Bear Umbra . This deck is pretty creature-heavy, so I doubt this could be helpful, but I always love Defense of the Heart for getting the creatures you want out. The only other things that immediately come to mind are the Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth infinite mana combo and Grim Monolith .
1 year ago
Hey, I'm also in process of cashing out, of Standard. I can't take Wizards bullshit with that format anymore, but I'm still going to play Commander :)
I make and play causal budget multiplayer Commander decks. I try to limit cards to $6 or less each. Of course there are some exceptions mostly lands/tutors, but for the most part I stick to this rule. I love Commander because I can buy a single staple card and then use that card in all my decks.
This is currently what I'm doing is buying singles of all the budget staple cards for Commander. It's especially helpful with lands because lands take up the largest portion of cost of a Commander deck, but I only need a single copy of a land which I can then use in all my decks. The cost of lands is one reason why I'm leaving Standard. I can no longer justify the cost of playable manabases, there are not enough options.
Some staples in Bant colors as well as other Angels to consider:
- Mystic Remora
- Smothering Tithe
- Swords to Plowshares
- Eladamri's Call
- Mystical Tutor
- Arcane Denial
- Beast Within
- Return to Dust
- Nature's Claim
- Supreme Verdict
- Day of Judgment
- Detention Sphere
- Sublime Archangel
- Stoic Angel
- Karmic Guide
- Shalai, Voice of Plenty
- Angel of Serenity
- Luminarch Ascension
Jenara can grow her own power with her ability this makes her a good attacker and an excellent source of Commander damage to your opponents. Exalted is a way to take more advantage of Jenara by giving her additional power as long as she's the only creature attacking.
I'm offering all these other cards suggestions, but in my opinion priority for upgrades to consider here are the lands and mana production.
1 year ago
i didn’t think about that. Seems like a good addition as soon as i tested the deck and find something to cut. But a few cards like Stoic Angel are also waiting for some spare slots. Thanks for that suggestion!
1 year ago
My only problem with this deck is that my opponents just focus on killing Arcades and removing Assault Formation so I added some 1 cost hex proof spells like Mizzium Skin and Dive Down. Also added Mimic Vat to exile Arcades if really needed and play him each turn, pretty dangerous but get's the job done :D Stealing some good enemy cards is also nice!
Would also add some win-con planeswalkers as this deck is king at keeping them alive.
1 year ago
2 years ago
In your maybeboard I like:
Giltspire Avenger Exalted and can deter attackers, but 3 colors and $1+ makes sense to be a cut.
I would make room for Battlegrace Angel, has exalted and gives your Exalted Attacker lifelink. $0.56!
Cathedral of War was the land I was thinking about Friday, but it's $1.50! Can't include.
Sovereigns of Lost Alara is very powerful, tutors the exact aura you need for any situation, and probably makes them unblockable or lifelink in the process. With every strike it becomes lethal. $5 hard to account for but might be a way.
Rhox Charger is exalted and he has built in Trample, 3/3 Exalted for CMC4 isn't too bad for $0.25.
Stoic Angel would be an auto-include for me, especially with all of your guys making creatures come into play tapped. Swing with your Vigilance (Flying) Angel alone, and avoid any type of counter-strike from opponents. No going to find a better card for $0.50.
Grunn, the Lonely King is another option, he's CMC6 for 5/5 no Trample, but when he attacks, Stack his triggered ability, and then layer on all the Exalted, after the exalted get added, he doubles himself. If you have the kicker 3 a 10/10 for 9 is still ok. Needs a Rancor but he's pretty reasonable, especially with all the built in evasion effects.
Suprised you don't have Knotvine Paladin, he gets +1 from the Exalted ability, and stacks a second +1 for each "untapped" creature, which they all are, so doubles the Exalted when he attacks, another good finisher like Grunn, the Lonely King when evasion is available.
Cold-Eyed Selkie can draw some cards, since your not using blue much you don't have as much draw, since he's still works. Also if you can Exalted and Islandwalk someone, can repopulate your hand.
Swords to Plowshares is the best removal in Budget for $1.
Sigil of Valor is the exalted equipment because it doubles the Exalted effects!.
Sigil of the Nayan Gods not bad, because if it useless, it has Cycling.
I'll continue further review later, off the top of my head,
Reciprocate generally bad, once it's hit your life it's too late, someone (situational) it will be good, but most creatures you NEED to remove aren't attacking, and if they are, the specifically have to attack you, and you have to choose to let them hit your life. Condemn is better because it can attack anyone, and doesn't have to connect to your life specifically.
Skarrg Goliath is too high CMC to be useful, and his bloodlust is also too high CMC.
More to come later, I used to have a Daxos of Meletis deck, so I have some ideas, but I utilized the quite a bit more. Fun Selesnya build. +1.