Kamahl, Pit Fighter
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Big Apple Highlander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Freeform Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
PreDH Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Kamahl, Pit Fighter

Legendary Creature — Human Barbarian

Haste (This creature can attack and as soon as it comes under your control.)

: Kamahl, Pit Fighter deals 3 damage to target creature, player or planeswalker.

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halanvaina on Mono Red Control/Mill (Premodern)

1 year ago

Look dude, I'm really trying my best here to make a somewhat competitive mono red deck that's not one of the three deck archetypes. It really feels that I'm never going to win you over with this deck. I did take out Avatar of Fury, but I know even with all of the attempts at mana reductions and technically ramp it's still going to be slow. There's no ritual effects since that's not in the card pool, and we all know mono red can't do land ramp. Mono red can't draw cards good either, yet I feel like your acting like there's infinity better options in the card pool. Instead, can you suggest new cards instead of saying every change I make doesn't matter and is way too slow? Mono red is a difficult color to work with outside of aggro. There is a couple control cards, like Stranglehold(which is not even in the card pool), but it's not much. I know you're trying to help, but at this point it feels irritating and not really helping. Also I'll admit that Kamahl, Pit Fighter is kind of a pet card. But I could switch it out with a different card.

I know that I could put Gamble in the deck, but I feel that the list is tight enough. What I find odd about your arguments is that you note the use of sac lands, yet say that using Feldons Cane is no use. The point of Devastating Dreams is to draw cards to use it well. You also say that opponents will typically never get to seven lands, yet say it will hurt me more somehow. It does damage to each creature, and makes the both of us sac ideally all of our lands. Its also two red, which doesn't mess with the mana curve much. There is also a combo with that card and Mogg Maniac, but i already know you're going to say its not significant enough to do anything since theres no winning with you. It really feels like I'm talking to a brick wall. I know it's a flawed deck and I'm trying to do my best with it. With no ritual effects for red, no ramp, no decent card draw most of the time, I'm doing what I can. But I don't see you helping much other than saying how the mana curve sucks (which I know and trying to fix, yet you don't like it anyway.)

wallisface on Mono Red Control/Mill (Premodern)

1 year ago

halanvaina just to play devils-advocate to your latest comment, I've posted replies to some of the mentioned cards and ideas. I hope this doesn't come across too rude - I just really feel like your deck is lacking some really fundamental deckbuilding guidelines and feels very non-functional because of this.

  • I don't see the point at-all of Feldon's Cane. You have absolutely no way to mill yourself unless you've played Crumbling Sanctuary and then failed to kill your opponent before they've killed you... the entire plan here feels flawed if that's the case. Crumbling Sanctuary itself is already faar too expensive mana-wise, and there's very-good odds you won't even be able to cast it before the game ends.

  • swapping one overcosted card for another doesn't really solve any problems... Kamahl, Pit Fighter is still too high a mana cost to be useful imo. I agree it is a very-strong improvement over Butcher Orgg, but that doesn't mean either should be played.

  • I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve from Devastating Dreams? This looks like it hurts you much more than your opponent, especially considering your mana curve is so egregiously high.

  • You seem to be relying a lot on Jayemdae Tome but I really can't see how the card is playable. Yes it lets you draw 4 cards but at the expense of effectively doing nothing for two full turns - i'm not sure how any deck doesn't just automatically lose when they're taking two turns off doing nothing impactful.

  • I get that Helm of Awakening is there to try and accelerate your mana curve, and that will help, but even then you've only included 2 of them, and your curve is still massively high. You need a LOT more mana acceleration, or to severely reduce your mana curve - and ideally you would do both.

  • I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve with Mangara's Tome, presumably card selection, but this really isn't the answer. Your mana resources are too limited already and either triggering or casting this thing likely means doing very little else in your turn. You're better-off drawing blindly from your deck than paying 2 mana to draw sudo-blindly anyway.

My biggest concern is your statement "While I do agree with opponents choosing two different options a terrible idea most of the time, the thing is with damage and fairly low cmc means that eventually your opponent will just have to do what I want."... the problem is that your deck doesn't have low cmc - I've checked other premodern decks and none of them are even remotely this slow. I don't believe the opponent will have to "choose what you want" because firstly if they're switching to the other choice, that means the first option would be hurting them more, so they're still taking the best path for their own survival, and making your life harder. And secondly, because I don't believe your deck is remotely fast enough to apply any pressure... your opponent will win long-before you put them into any kind of a bind.

I had a look at a bunch of competitive premodern decks here and there is a big gap between these decks and what you're currently running - namely that these decks can enact their plans much more quickly, and run a much lower mana-curve. I see premodern has archetypes like burn, which is effectively what you're doing but without all the extra steps and self-induced complications.

halanvaina on Mono Red Control/Mill (Premodern)

1 year ago

All right I updated the deck more over the past while.

Added Feldon's Cane to try to keep a grip on the late game. Took out Book Burning since it seemed to have too little impact on the game, at least compared to other things in the list. Took out Mogg Bombers for Lavaborn Muse for repeatable damage. Still going to keep the two beaters in the deck, but Took out Butcher Orgg for Kamahl, Pit Fighter. The fact he can tap to do a lighting bolt is better than the former. Another addition is Devastating Dreams as the finisher. Cards like Jayemdae Tome and (hopefully) Browbeat will draw me enough cards, and might even luck out & shuffle my graveyard into my libary afterward.

While I do agree with opponents choosing two different options a terrible idea most of the time, the thing is with damage and fairly low cmc means that eventually your opponent will just have to do what I want. It's not like Library of Lat-Nam, where its too expensive to play too much, and it's always going to be the far worse option. Least the way I see it. Also I'm going to replace Dwarven Ruins with Balduvian Trading Post when i can. Thing that sucks is I already ordered the cards before these recent revisions. So I guess I'll live with it until I see one. Same goes for the most of the other replacements.

Fuzzy003 on When did you start playing, …

3 years ago

Started in 2002 during the Odyssey block. Began with a few friends lending me decks to play. Got a few boosters but couldn't make anything to compete until I got one of the precons. "Painflow" was my first and Thriss, Nantuko Primus introduced me to my love of big green stompy things. My first self made deck was spirits and anthems eg Phantom Nishoba + Mirari's Wake.

Bought and played casually fairly often up to Kamigawa.

End of '05 had some new owners take over one of my LGS. Got them to start hosting FNM and PTQ tourneys. Stuck around for the FNM but wasn't a fan of the PTQ crowd. They sold up around 2010-11 and I didn't get along with the new owner(neither did 90% of the other customers) and ended up saving a couple of decks to play and sold off most of my collection.

Started playing again last year when my house mate began catching up with some of our old magic buddies. Been grabbing singles and making decks but not going as nuts as I had previously.

Still miss when the Fat Packs came with the book for the set they were attached to and probably have the novels floating around in a storage box somewhere...

Still think the Odyssey block as a whole is still my fav and still use cards from them in some of my current decks(shoutout to my barbarian buddy Kamahl, Pit Fighter, the Lightning Bolt on legs).

Still miss some of the janky oddball decks we used to play back in the day when we couldn't find a playset of the cards we wanted so some other synergistic interactions went in and you'd occasionaly come accross a combo that you were not even looking for(looking at you Goblin Sharpshooter and my druid buddy Kamahl, Fist of Krosa).

Not so much a fan of power creep in the game. I like to play and see some of the interesting ideas my friends come up with, just a little disapointed when it's like a turn 3 I win... I've made decks that can compete with the speed but don't overly enjoy playing them.

If one of our players could be bothered making some EDH decks we'd play more of that as most of us enjoy the swings and round-abouts of that style of play rather than the speed of constructed 60's.

I've tried Arena and it's a good way to play when everyone else is busy but the social side of things is why I came back to playing again. Still play other games(board/rpg) with other members of my group so if Magic starts to feel stale again I've still got other reasons to go see people.

nicktibe on Illuna, Apex of Wishes EDH

4 years ago

Is there a reason you put Kamahl, Pit Fighter and Riku of Two Reflections in the deck? Obviously you can't mutate onto either as they're both humans.

WorldEater_42 on What do you have that I cannot obtain?

5 years ago

Hi sSasquatch, thanks for tuning in! The majority of my wins come from

I haven't been able to play in a few months due to a long work trip but would definitely recommend the new Sakashima of a Thousand Faces if you aren't running it already. Happy caging!

GreenGuildKnight on Pramikon's Thunderdome

5 years ago

Kamahl, Pit Fighter

multimedia on Call the Army

5 years ago

Hey, good start upgrading the precon on a budget.

28 lands is not enough land for an avg. CMC of 3.4 which is high. I recommend 36 lands and adding Knight of the White Orchid. First strike with a two drop Human is good with +2 pump from Jirina. You want to take more advantage of Jirina who's a four drop anthem effect for Humans. This means you want to consistently be able to play more impactful one drops (Champion of the Parish)/two drops (Thalia's Lieutenant)/three drops (Frontline Medic) to attack with the turn you play Jirina.

Tribal creature strategies in Commander fold to board wipes. To combat this play more repeatable instant speed indestructible protection (Etchings of the Chosen), creature recursion (Phyrexian Reclamation), reanimation (Alesha, Who Smiles at Death) and noncreature repeatable sources of Humans (Outlaws' Merriment).

Budget lands to consider adding:

Cards to consider cutting to add more lands and other suggestions:

Would you like more help?

Good luck with your deck.

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