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DreadKhan on Need help pls (too many cards)
5 months ago
If you're hoping to play vs fairly competitive decks in Modern, I wouldn't run many (ideally none) 5, 6 or 7 drops, even 4 drops are slow and can clog up your hand. In a format like Modern, you want to be doing things in the most efficient manner possible, meaning you want low to the ground spells. If you have more than 1 spell of MV > 4 in your opening hand, it's very hard to make that hand a keep! Also, effects that only gain you life are terrible in practice. Blockers are usually not helpful, they end up too small/ineffective, so I'd hesitate before running cards with Defender in Modern unless you have a big payoff for them. Bodies that aren't big for their MV that lack abilities other than life gain often fail to progress the game, keep in mind that Tarmogoyf has lost huge amounts of popularity, and that could be a 3/4 or better for 2 mana. I feel like Ondu War Cleric is not a very impactful card, the 2/2 body isn't very big and the ability does very little. Tine Shrike seems like a strange inclusion, it's not a bad card in the right deck I suppose, but in this one it's clunky at 4 mana and Infect doesn't 'stack' with regular damage, so you could get the opponent to 1 life, and be stuck with only Shrike and need to deal 10 more damage to kill them. Either run lots of infect or probably skip it. Auras are generally not good cards, it's too easy for your opponent to 2 for 1 you by removing the creature. 4 mana for an aura is not where you need to be in Modern. Angelic Gift is probably more fine, since it replaces itself and Flying is a useful ability to have.
Smite the Monstrous feels awful beyond words in a format where people run stuff like Path to Exile, Generous Gift and maybe Fateful Absence in mono-White, 4 mana to have situational removal that only can hit creatures feels pretty bad.
If you want a low to the ground option to trigger lifegain and deal damage, Healer's Hawk is a nice flying lifelink 1 drop.
If you find it hard to cut cards, I think Yorion, Sky Nomad is Modern legal still, and requires you to use an oversize deck of 80 cards, and it's a fairly beefy flyer you always have access to if you need it, which definitely isn't a bad thing.
Scarecrow1779 on Mono-Colored Beginner Decks
9 months ago
Krikr I'm glad you like them! Whenever I show somebody these lists, I almost always tell them about the card kingdom rookie decks in the same breathe. Not everyone wants to go through the work of assembling lists, even if those lists would be better suited. I'm glad my lists had teaching strengths, though. I always enjoy how easy it is to teach the stack with my lists, but was never sure if anybody else felt the same.
Swapping out Lightning Bolt for Demon Bolt is interesting. I hesitate because of Demon Bolt being a more complex card and Lightning Bolt already having a lot of decision making associated with it, but the point of being slower is a good one. I had considered replacing Lightning Bolt with Searing Spear, but ultimately didn't do it because I didn't want to weaken the matchup against white. Having a cheap removal option is very important for taking out an enchanted Healer's Hawk before it gains white too much life. It's interesting that red was too powerful in your testing. IIRC, red's win rates for me were just a hair below 50% in most matchups. I never worried about it too much, though, because most of the people I have taught tend to not want to play with or against aggro. They're all destined to play value decks in EDH, I guess XD. Was there any particular matchup where you felt red was too strong, or was it across the board?
Sideboards are a really interesting option that I hadn't thought about before. I worry that by depending on new players evaluation, you're more likely to end up with one-sided games. However, I suppose making the learner's deck more powerful than the teacher's is actually the perfect way to show how much card choice matters. I've had times when I was teaching two people at once and they each had a beginner deck and we're playing against each other. In those cases, I could just have a suggested sideboard for each matchup that guides them to an evenly matched game 2.
Thanks for necro-ing the post! I always love talking about these little decks, and now you've got me excited to try sideboarding with them when I get a chance!
SithLord on Birb Storm
10 months ago
There are very few birds to be found here. Odd, because this is a tribal bird theme deck. You aren't even running Maskwood Nexus or Arcane Adaptation
So here are some birds I found that would be fun to play:
Aven Brigadier !!!!!
Whippoorwill an exile for so little the cost
Storm Crow why isn't this here?
Spire Owl cheap, but nice
Sephara, Sky's Blade this hits the field by turn 4 for 1 white mana!
Ledger Shredder badass name and badass ability
Cartographer's Hawk a fun card that empties your deck of plains
Flurry of Wings and Settle the Wreckage There is so much fun to be had
Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker_ look at this scawwwwww _ Warden of Evos Isle not needed, but nice for making 5 mana birds cost less
Empyrean Eagle lord
Kangee, Sky Warden all it takes is one 1/1 bird token to scwwwaaa
Kangee, Aerie Keeper you can't run one bird and not have any feathers ay?
Shabraz, the Skyshark its a sharknado
Wingmate Roc the best wingman
High Sentinels of Arashin use your mana ramp to buff your army
Nimble Obstructionist _a tale's end _
Emeria Angel dude
1 year ago
There's some quite good birds you could add if you still want to go mostly bird tribal. Healer's Hawk, Watcher of the Spheres, Aven Mindcensor, and Empyrean Eagle come to mind. Also Lofty Denial is great.
TheReal_MtGHaystak on Pigeon tribal
1 year ago
Augury Owl Aven Mindcensor Battlefield Raptor Healer's Flock Healer's Hawk Nimble Obstructionist Sage Owl Wingmate Roc. All of these are really good birds that I've seen or have. Wingate Roc is an amazing card in a lot of decks but super good in this build as it's two big pigeons in one card.
wallisface on Flyers
1 year ago
Celestial Colonnade is only really played in hard-control decks that generally lack any other practical ways to win. In general, i'd say ditch all of your taplands and just ru basics. You'll find that a land coming in tapped will trip up your tempo faaar too often, and with your current card selection I don't see you having many issues at all just running basics anyway. If you are wanting a better manabase on a sudo-budget, I'd suggest getting cards like Glacial Fortress, Adarkar Wastes, and Seachrome Coast. You want to avoid lands that enter tapped at all costs.
Warden of Evos Isle and Watcher of the Spheres don't look like they'll do too much as they won't be able to reduce the cost of a lot of your team (i.e. Skycat Sovereign, Healer's Hawk, Watcher of the Spheres, realistically Sephara, Sky's Blade). I'd think it would make sense to reduce the number of these you're playing (personally i'd ditch Warden of Evos Isle entirely)
a playset of Squadron Hawk should be useful here.
As Foretold does almost nothing for you here, I'd suggest ditching it. Griffin Aerie should probably also be ditched, because there are just too few ways to get value from it in your current list.
Creature based lists like these oftentimes can't make good use of countermagic, like Absorb and Counterspell, because they're using their mana on their turn to play creatures. I thing you would be better off playing proactive-spells instead of reactive ones. Stuff like Path to Exile is going to get you a LOT more value, because it lets you keep playing aggressively on your turns, without having to slow down so much for countering stuff.
Modern decks should always aim towards 60 cards. While running 64 might not seem like much more, it will make your hands & draws weaker overall, and create less consistency. I would suggest strongly to aim to get down to 60 cards (there are a lot of suggestions of stuff to remove above so should be an easy job)
Endersword334 on Orzhov Life Gain
1 year ago
I would also remove Anointed Chorister since it really just isn't that strong. If you are looking for small lifelink creatures then I would try Speaker of the Heavens, Alseid of Life's Bounty and/or Healer's Hawk.
Simerix on Just Don't Get Hit
1 year ago
Some cards to cut: Akroan Jailer , Accorder Paladin , Healer's Hawk , Mesa Unicorn , Stone Haven Pilgrim , Story Seeker , Banishing Light , Blind Obedience , Journey to Nowhere , Stasis Snare
If you want an explanation why, lmk. There are a lot more cards I would take out. In general, gaining life and doing nothing else isn't worth your time. There's too much gaining life and not enough synergy
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