landofMordor Deckling

Just a Johnny who's been brewing EDH and casual modern since RTR. I play to have fun with friends and family, and if Gisela, Blade of Goldnight happens to cast Impact Resonance for 56 damage (it's more often than you'd think), then that's just gravy. (But if a player at the table is being a bully or a group-slug land-destruction anarchist, I might pull out Talrand or Oloro to help the casual underdogs.)

Primary mono-color:

Primary duos: , , and

Primary tri-color: ,

Favorite Cards:

-Deranged Assistant


- yikes I really dislike mono-B as a color, actually.

-Incendiary Command

- Ageless Entity

- Signal Pest

-gold: Ajani Vengeant

If I were a card, I would be Chief Engineer, both in playstyle and in personality (except I have friends, unlike Chiefy).

If you've got a deck you need help with, mention me! I'm not much of a competitive player, but that does mean that I know a lot of budget solutions and wacky alternatives that make casual play a lot of fun. And I follow Standard even though the tourney life isn't for me.

Highest T/O Rank: 22

Highest T/O Helper Rank: 9

landofMordor says... #1

You're right, Argy. I was looking for a pun like Roast that would only be noticeable to people who were longtime MtG players (and then got carried away by Cabal Coffees). Seems like you've struck a natural balance there.

June 19, 2017 6:29 a.m.

Argy says... #2

A Magic pun, while funny, makes the coffee shop seem that little bit more "removed" from Non-Magic players.

I did have another idea that might attract newcomers and established players.


Coffee beans are roasted, and coffee drinkers will often comment on how good a roast is.

June 19, 2017 3:33 a.m.

landofMordor says... #3

clayperce, I'm dying of laughter here. The Cabal loses all of its menace when you associate it with caffeinated beverages. That's great.

As to your Knight Watch Games, I think that's pretty cool. Although you'd have to be a nerd first and coffee addict second, as Argy noted, I think it's at least a step in the right direction. I'd rather every LGS be more like Knight Watch Games than my local LGS (that's literally exclusively one demographic).

But I do think there's probably a real market for something more along the lines of Argy's and my discussion. My hometown, for example, has an extreme passion for hip coffee and a notable dearth of ANY LGS at all. When that kind of perfect storm makes it feasible, I think an inviting space without oppressive fantasy themes would be ideal for making MtG and nerd culture more inclusive.

June 18, 2017 3:56 p.m.

clayperce says... #4

Butting in over here too ...

Did someone say they were looking for bad puns (as if there is any other kind)? Challenge accepted!

And a totally non-punny one, just because: Braidwood Cup

June 17, 2017 10:51 p.m.

Argy says... #5

How about Magic Lounge for a name?

June 17, 2017 11:10 a.m.

Argy says... #6

You've sold me.

End tables are a BRILLIANT idea.

I think the rental decks could end up almost paying for themselves, eventually.

You'd want to maybe hold on to something like a driver's license to make sure that people didn't just run off with them. Especially Modern decks.

The other thing I think could work are theme nights.

Something like a monthly "Tribal Tuesday" where people can bring Standard decks to play, but a certain amount of the cards in them MUST be of one or two Tribes. They have to present their decks when signing up.

Maybe there could also be a deck building competition. That way you could end with some interesting rental decks that were cheaper to build and interesting to play.

June 17, 2017 8:45 a.m.

Argy says... #7

I didn't feel like you were butting in at all.

I welcome all those interested in talking about player inclusion in Magic.

It always feels special to me when I play against other female Magic players.

It is getting rarer at my LGS. We just haven't had many women taking up the hobby.

I'm in the interesting position where I got my hubby interested in the game, and I build all his decks for him.

I guess, if any women do start playing at my LGS, they will at least see my female face. Maybe that will be enough to encourage them to stick around.

The more I think about the coffee shop vibe, the better it sounds.

I often long for a coffee while I am playing. If the cups were lidded that would prevent most spills.

I could see a relaxed atmosphere happening where people got together to hang out, drink some coffee, play some games, etc.

It would be perfect for EDH.

The other thing I think would work would be "renting" decks to players.

If someone wanted to try FNM the shop could have a deck people could rent for a night, to try it on for size.

Same with EDH.

This would also work for people who just wanted to try out a different deck.

The rental decks would be Tier 1.5.

They would be a way for people who didn't want to fully invest to see if they liked a format, and to give newer players a chance to be competitive.

June 16, 2017 10:41 a.m.

Haxxzor says... #8

Absolutely, any help is appreciated.

June 10, 2017 6:12 p.m.

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Said on Made in Heaven ......


Yeah! Negate, Spell Pierce, Censor, Void Shatter...pretty much anything 2 mana and under is a good counterspell in Modern -- just pick the one that serves you best!

June 24, 2017 8:42 p.m.

Yeah, you could probably take out an artifact hate-card or two, given your recursion and tutors, unless you play a few rounds and you realize you're never sorry to see one topdeck. Hornet Queen is a great add. Maybe Yisan, the Wanderer Bard?

The list seems really tuned to me! Tons of ramp and ETB effects and sacrifice triggers, with tutors and recursion aplenty! This deck will perform for you and at least take you through the midgame no trouble.

As for win conditions, that depends on your playstyle...Pathbreaker Ibex is obviously good. I've found that Mogis's Marauder is surprisingly good, as is Kessig Cagebreakers. Vraska the Unseen is crazy if you can boardwipe, ult her, and then cast the Marauder... You can also win by attrition, using Butcher of Malakir, etc, but I personally find that strategy pretty boring, with a long time-to-kill.

I'm trying, therefore, to think of some unusual win conditions. I think this deck is good enough at tokens to use Overrun effects as your main win condition -- there are some interesting BG cards like Dance of Shadows, Dirge of Dread, Enlarge (those Lure effects would be a unique way to do it), Chorus of Might for an instant-speed alpha strike, Ridgescale Tusker for some jank grindy that what you're looking for? The consistency of Craterhoof minus the annoying "seen-this-before" factor.

June 24, 2017 9:49 a.m.

Said on Abzan Tokens...


Like I said, depends on your playtesting. But I would value the instant speed of Wastes highly, and I would also be wary of the color-intensive cost and sorcery speed of Spectral Procession. Idk, because it really depends on how it plays. See if cutting Alarm raises your average CMC too much (remember that T/O will be incorrect, because you'll be casting Wastes for more than 2), and then see if cutting Procession instead plays better. Hope that helps!

June 24, 2017 9:41 a.m.

Said on Made in Heaven ......


Hey, friend. Love the deck idea, and I love that you're willing to try out some unconventional cards here.

I think a couple of Jaces could help you, even if the Mind Sculptor is super illegal in Modern. Jace, the Living Guildpact in particular provides topdeck manipulation on the way to his ultimate, with a relevant second ability. I would perhaps cut your Angel creatures for that plus some good counterspells...but that's just to optimize.

June 24, 2017 8:03 a.m.

Said on Abzan Tokens...


Add Secure the Wastes for Spectral Procession, and then cut Raise the Alarm if you need more black disruption. You could probably test by cutting one of each 'walker or Intangible Virtue, if you're finding that your opponents are able to outrun you. I think Duress is a pro discard spell for cheap, since it hits pretty much every competitive card that's not a Goyf (and you can kill those with Push or Decay).

I hope that helps! The only thing I can recommend for finding the right numbers of cards, and whether you need creature-ramp, is to playtest. A lot. You'll find the numbers when you realize you've lost one game too many by having a dead draw of card XYZ, or that ABC single-handedly wins games.

June 23, 2017 9:18 p.m.

Said on When to Combo ......


abby315 thank you very much! The Shota Yasooka matches are amazing. And I love the podcast. You went above and beyond, and I appreciate it!

TMBRLZ, thank you! I was fearing the same thing, but I couldn't think of a way to bait out my opponent either. I appreciate your help!

June 23, 2017 6:55 p.m.

For spot removal, give it hexproof (green is great at that, often for 2 mana or less). For mass toughness, Tower Defense or Spirit of the Hunt effects. For mass exile...there's pretty much nothing except flickers, counters, and "leaves the battlefield" triggered abilities to gain card advantage when your stuff dies, like Thragtusk.

June 23, 2017 4:36 p.m.

Said on When to Combo ......


So, I've long had a couple questions concerning timing combos. Especially when you're ready to commit to combining off. Take the following scenario:

You have 2 tapped Swamps and New Perspectives on the field, with two Esper Sojourners, Resounding Thunder, and 2 Shadow of the Grave in hand. Your opponent is at 18, and you know you can kill her by cycling your hand, untapping your Swamps, and then Shadow-ing twice to get a total of 18 Resounding damage. However, your opponent has 1 unknown card in hand, 2 untapped Islands, and has not played any of her Negates.

How do you stack the triggers here to minimize damage if your opponent is waiting to Negate your Grave? The question revolves around who gets priority and how to mitigate the risks of getting blown out.

Any strategies here would be most appreciated. I'm used to being the one with counters, so learning to avoid them is new.

June 22, 2017 4:49 p.m.

The above definition is excellent. Staples are the cards in each color that are widely played regardless of archetype. This especially pertains to EDH, but applies to other formats as well.

It's important to note, however, that a deck full of staples will never win if it is not piloted well. And decks full of jank cards will beat staples if they are played skillfully. So it's probably for the best that you're a little confused by staples, because that way you will learn which cards are good on your own, which will make you a better player! But I hope we cleared up some confusion(:

June 22, 2017 6:37 a.m.

clayperce, sadly, I think you might be right. It's competing for spots with TGearhulk, but doesn't have I could see it as a sideboard slot (because the evasion and un-killability is real), but probably not mainboard unless you made tons of deckbuilding concessions. Or, I guess maybe it could be a Temur Energy Monsters card. Not bad with Rogue Refiner, Glimmer of Genius, and Shielded Aether Thief, especially because it will be valuable outside of its finishing capabilities.

I am still loving the flavor, though. These three death-gods have a good fit between their arachnid/insect and their color identities.

June 21, 2017 9:07 p.m.

Said on MS: Hour of ......


Yikes. Super intense. Not only did I enjoy the Eygptian cosmology with its parallels to other Ancient Near Eastern texts, but just in terms of magic this story was harrowing.

spoilers to follow

RIP Rhonas. I hope his sacrifice alerts the other gods to Bolas's lies. I know Bontu is probly dead too, and maybe Oketra, based on spoiled cards, but I feel a need for at least Hazoret to survive. That way, I feel there will be real tension and suspense for when we revisit Amonkhet, and also so it's not a 180 degree change for Wizards as far as which faction wins unrealistic victories. Like, I'm okay if the bad guys win one (in fact it's more satisfying), but I don't follow Magic story so that I can experience New Phyrexia lore moments. If I wanted dark and brooding with no hope at all, I'd watch BvS. And that's not to mention that it'll be much less satisfying to revisit Amonkhet if it's another enemy-occupied plane like Zendikar or Mirrodin.

So, in summary: I'm waiting with bated breath to see if the 'watch and the gods can protect their people, despite their emotional and real losses before they've even glimpsed Bolas!

June 21, 2017 12:16 p.m.

Said on Many Cats - ......


Ok, so if I were you, I would cut: Oketra, Attune with Aether, and Compulsory Rest. If you do cut those, I might add 1-2 Forests even if you don't cut Attune, since the Caracal is 5 CMC and you'll want to cast multiples of that every game. Then, Declaration in Stone or Cast Out act as more effective removal than a Pacifism effect.

Hope that helps! Also, if you're trying to get your partner to play MtG, it might be helpful to vary your archetypes. Cats are cool, but maybe she is a combo or control or aggro player at heart. My partner's favorite deck is mono U mill, for example. At any rate, best of luck!

June 21, 2017 9:36 a.m.

Said on Rattle Pains...


Nice list. How is Metallic Mimic doing for you? To me, the counters seem a bit like a "win-more" on top of the control lock. So maybe add control redundancy like Censor instead.

June 21, 2017 8:33 a.m.

Hm. Tbh, I was thinking of that guy as a win condition for Arjun, the Shifting Flame...

But if your heart is set on him as a general, I would check out Arjun and Niv-Mizzet decks, since they both want you drawing a lot.

June 21, 2017 8:22 a.m.

Skyship Plunderer as a 1-of will potentially double your energy. But G has a ton of flying-hate like Clip Wings too

June 19, 2017 10:25 a.m.

Said on Need help for ......


Yeah, so the problem with mono-G stompy is that it is the epitome of "no backup plan." Control, in particular, thrashes G.

I would most recommend switching to Rashmi, Eternities Crafter, which opens up U countermagic and also ramps insanely, so even after a nuke you should be ok by ramping out more stuff. Or Surrak Dragonclaw, which is like Gruul stompy PLUS countermagic. And it supports the landfall subtheme of your friend's precon, if I recall correctly.

I suggest U over B because the ramp possibilities are expanded, and you also get immense card advantage. And also because every wannabe Spike and their best friend plays reanimator, and it's more grindy than stompy, and easy to trash with graveyard hate.

June 19, 2017 8:46 a.m.

Said on Dreaming of 8s...


Yeah! My first comment tried to establish that 8-Rack is good on a budget, but will struggle against some archetypes unless you upgrade the weakest bits.

Hm. I bet I have some ideas for that. Assuming you mean sub-50 budget, I've got some other lists @ 5 Color Aggro ($15 Budget), Esper Spirits Tempo, Phantasmal Blast, Icy Bear, Casual Lantern. The user Sargeras has tons more budget Modern builds and might be an interesting page to check out, too. Hope that's helpful, as opposed to information overload! (;

June 19, 2017 6:37 a.m.

Said on landofMordor...


You're right, Argy. I was looking for a pun like Roast that would only be noticeable to people who were longtime MtG players (and then got carried away by Cabal Coffees). Seems like you've struck a natural balance there.

June 19, 2017 6:29 a.m.

Said on Dreaming of 8s...


UnleashedHavok, as you know, I usually build on shoestring budgets, and this list is actually not one I've papered out yet, so honest answer is "no idea". But I think there's promise, and with a little extra tech, this deck's chances improve rapidly.

Raven's Crime, The Rack, Necrogen Mists, Ensnaring Bridge, Pack Rat, and Inquisition of Kozilek would be my first potential non-budget adds. Then Grafdigger's Cage and other grave hate in the sideboard.

8-Rack has some inherent problems because of the way it approaches winning. Decks with resilient attackers like Loxodon Smiter, Lingering Souls, artifacts like Lantern of Insight, or graveyard interactions like Dredge will be tough matchups, but this deck is geared to demolish anybody running on low resources, like Jund, Bogles, and typical midrangy stuff. You can mitigate the dangers of the grave by running good SB hate.

Hope that helps! What kinds of modern decks catch your eye? Are you wanting to play decks that are less-than-ubiquitous, of a certain archetype, or just anything that's budget?

June 18, 2017 9:13 p.m.

Said on Corpse bride...


I see where previous poster is coming from, even if they were too blunt about it. Maybe I can translate.

Essentially, there are more efficient ways to lose life than cheating out Griselbrand. So if you're wanting to lose life intentionally for Shadow, why bother jumping through the (large) hoop of cheating out a card that would already win the game for you anyways?

If I were you, I'd make this into two decks, because it's got two really neat concepts behind it. One deck with Death's Shadow; the other with Dredge and Grisely. As it is, you dedicate 12 slots to tutors that could otherwise be used to support your main theme, which weakens overall deck quality.

Hope that helps! I really do applaud the originality of your concept here, because it's always worth it to pursue unconventional brews to improve your deckbuilding. Let me know what you decide to pursue, though, and I'll do my best to help you if you like!

June 18, 2017 8:55 p.m.


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