Sarkhan420, thanks for your reply! Maybe we can dialogue a little more on this subject. What I meant, when I said you corrected other users, was that your posts on that thread have a tendency to point out the errors/oversights of others' posts, which isn't necessarily bad, but over time could discourage users who felt like you were talking down to them. "Correct" was just shorthand for that.
Let me be a little more blunt. It seems like you're assuming that every other user on T/O should be responsible for ensuring that their posts are as accurate as possible, and if they're not, then you usually reply to fix their error. (See your replies to myself, legendofa, DemonDragonJ, and Hi_Diddly_Ho_Neighbor on the forum as examples.) There's definitely a place for accuracy, like in tuning decks and developing strategy, but my point was that the Spoiler forum is a place people go to just have fun and speculate, not be accurate. And I've noticed that the people who are on the receiving end either disengage from the conversation (DemonDragonJ), or reply a little defensively (see my, legend's, and Neighbor's replies to you).
So I mention the "typing on phones" as a shorthand way to say, "The spoiler thread doesn't really need a fact-checker, because it's possibly the most causal forum on the site. Fact-checking just turns the checker into the bad-guy whose posts, in aggregate, just look like they're splitting hairs and poking holes in others' posts, instead of fostering conversation about the new set." In other words, I was hoping you'd read that as permission to kinda chill out and let yourself gloss over the errors in favor of continuing and focusing on the really interesting dialog you've been having re:Mentor and your opinions on shock reprints.
I've been kinda wordy, because I'm not face-to-face with you, and unfortunately can't smile or use tone to tell you that I'm not mad or tilted or anything (: I'm just trying to be super kind, yet clear. Maybe you could adopt a similar strategy on the forum -- add half a sentence to your posts that signals that you're interested in engaging in conversation? There's a big difference between a fact by itself, and a fact paired with something emotive like "I'd love it if that were true; it'd make my XYZ deck so good! But Surveil really works like ABC" or "I, too, would have loved to see another fetch printing, but they were just printed in KTK..." That way, the recipient feels like you're on their side, rather than just you popping up to say "here's a fact you overlooked".
Let me know what you think about this! I'm especially interested to know your motivations for posting and your feelings about the forum. Again, I'm not trying to embarrass or frustrate you, just hoping to foster some conversation(; Cheers!
September 1, 2018 7:38 a.m.
i'm not sure what you mean by "correcting other people's posts", because you followed it by mentioning "typing quickly on their phones" which implies that i was correcting spelling or grammatical errors. so far, i have not made that type of correction. the only "correction" i have made of any type, that i can recall, is correcting someone that shocklands require life and not mana. imo, no amount of typing quickly, or using a phone, should cause a person to say "mana" when they mean "life".
August 31, 2018 2:17 p.m.
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Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor I’m buying a box, so I’m gonna have time to draft all the guilds, but I’m totally going to force a Surveil deck first, since it’s the new mechanic I’m most excited to try(: and then I’ll play Boros and Golgari over and over, splashing blue in each as needed(: you are right that Golgari is consistently the most fun guild to play
September 23, 2018 7:53 p.m.
dbpunk that’s such a good point. To your point, check out recent rarity shifts like M19’s Pelakka Wurm and Narcomoeba, or the downshifting of Kongming, "Sleeping Dragon" and others in A25. Just the environment of a card can change its power level, which really puts the discussion of ability costs into context.
September 22, 2018 3:24 p.m.
AgentGreen, my bet is a totally new planeswalker for Azorius, per that key artwork for GRN with some rando person who isn't Kaya.
September 21, 2018 9:25 a.m.
Here's a question for the group at large: What cards from GRN do you think will have an impact in Standard? Modern?
(And no, you can't just say Assassin's Trophy over and over!)
My guess: Crippling Chill and Charnel Troll might sneak into Modern Dredge, and Mission Briefing might go with Snappy in some Modern control lists.
As for Standard, I know UBx control will appreciate pretty much the entire Dimir guild, especially Price of Fame, Sinister Sabotage, and Thought Erasure. I also am predicting that RB aggro will be replaced by Boros or Ru aggro, 'cuz Tajic and friends are pushed.
And I'm also predicting that, after the initial postrotation shakeup, we'll see a BGx Rock deck (either Sultai or Abzan) utilizing the grindy card selection of Underrealm Lich/Mausoleum Secrets/Midnight Reaper with the power of Nullhide Ferox/Llanowar Elves. That's the deck I'm personally most excited to play on Arena, etc.
September 20, 2018 10:38 a.m.
Hm. Tough situation here. My two cents would be that you could make your own personal goal something besides winning. The folks at The Command Zone podcast talk about this a lot -- in a four-player pod, everyone's win rate should be 25% (plus or minus, since there's always variance). So, if you're winning 75% of the games, maybe you should take out a group hug deck, or a politics shenanigans deck, or even a "I put this deck together to teach y'all about threat assessment" deck. I appreciate that one of your goals is to teach people better gameplay, but unless those people are having fun, they're not going to want to improve. And people are less likely to have fun if you win the lion's share of games. Instead of dumbing down your decks, challenge your piloting and deckbuilding even more by building decks that foster that healthy kind of fun.
All that isn't to say, though, that player A doesn't need a major attitude adjustment (he does). But you might be able to actively improve the situation, which your concerned and self-aware post leads me to believe you are perfectly capable of(: good luck, friend!
September 19, 2018 3 p.m.
To be fair, Dimir needs some love. Cipher and Transmute were terrible, and it's nice to see UB branching away from their repetitive "mill and profit" themes.
Unmoored Ego will probably be a worse Extirpate/Surgical Extraction in most cases except Tron lands, in which case there might still be better options, especially since it won't affect lands already played.
September 17, 2018 noon
Flalafell we're not the experts here, but you can toggle "Skip Validation" in the editing page for now, because it usually takes the admins a couple weeks to get the entire set uploaded.
September 17, 2018 8:27 a.m.
Wow, "Flesh Thresher" is a ... visceral epithet(; love the description too.
This is a powerful list! I especially love the reliable token production this deck has, because even if somebody casts Nevermore on Kresh, that just means your worst case is a combo-y token deck, which can still be excellent!
As for potential improvements, I notice that the majority of your sacrifice outlets require mana, which can be a problem when trying to go off with Kresh and power him up for a lethal Chandra's Ignition (which is already a little mana-intensive). Sure, you'll win if you randomly draw Ashnod's Altar, but I don't want to leave that up to chance, which is why I include redundancy like Scarland Thrinax and friends, so that I'm more or less guaranteed to have free instant-speed shenanigans. I would cut some less relevant cards like Predator Ooze, Vona's Hunger, Darksteel Plate, or Anger that are great in a vacuum but don't directly support the sacrifice theme.
September 17, 2018 7:56 a.m.
zAzen7977 good point -- you're the expert on such effects (;
September 17, 2018 7:38 a.m.
legendofa I also noticed the change in this cycle of Guildmage. I think the tap abilities on on average more powerful than the old abilities, but I think that's a sacrifice for power and versatility over raw mana-sinkiness.
clayperce those were literally the best things I'd ever seen in my life. "Aurelia, with the good hair" will be the only way I can ever refer to her from now on.
September 17, 2018 7:08 a.m.
Point taken, dbpunk, I'm convinced! (: RIP Isperia.
DemonDragonJ, when DOM came out, MaRo actually said in his card-by-card design article that black was phasing out life loss in exchange for dealing damage to themselves. There have been relatively few damage-prevention-for-player effects printed ever since the New World Order, but the subtleties between life loss/damage to self were tough for new players, so this is a way to reduce the complexity of Magic without sacrificing mechanical integrity. Note that this only applies to damage to self; when it comes to drain effects, Black hasn't changed at all.
I get your concerns about power creep on the Ferox, but you gotta remember it does have downside (can't cast non-creature, which means that the decks that utilize it will be bad at defending it), and, like many folks have already said, creatures have gotten better since '95, for better or worse. I see a trend in your comments that you prefer things to stay the way they were when they were first printed (guild leaders at mythic, low P/T, very fixed color pie, etc), which I understand, because it leads to familiarity, but you gotta remember that MtG's constant change is a strength! It is what keeps us in this game for 10+ years. Sure, WotC might look back on this period of design and regret some pushed creatures, but if they hadn't been willing to change, we'd still be stuck in the paleolithic era of Channel+Fireball, or 0-mana counterspells, or playing 9 copies of Demonic Tutor...
September 12, 2018 7:38 a.m.
dbpunk, such a cool observation on the gates!
Anybody have confirmation that Vraska killed Isperia, specifically? We know she was tortured by sphinxes during her time in the clink, so it could be any Sphinx, and the art of Assassin’s Trophy kinda looks like that statue has been around long enough for mushrooms to grow up around it. Granted, since it’s a Story Spotlight, that is less likely, but I’m interested to read any proof that Vraska’s victim is Isperia.
September 11, 2018 5:55 p.m.
Phaetion I think you're on point for this set's guilds. Izzet and Golgari are all-but-certainly confirmed, given that MaRo said each Bolas-aligned guild is led by a planeswalker that serves Bolas. With Vraska and Ral confirmed henchmen, there's really no other options.
For next set, I agree that Azorius will probably go to Bolas. Orzhov seems a little dubious (despite Kaya showing up in some artwork), since what I know of Teysa tells me that she has a genuinely good streak, but I could be wrong here. I doubt that Gruul would ever let themselves be controlled by an outsider, which leaves Simic and Rakdos to fall under Bolas's control. Rakdos just follows the bloodshed, which makes sense, and I could see Simic slipping into the "serve Bolas in exchange for limitless experimental subjects" mentality all too easily.
September 11, 2018 9:54 a.m.
September 10, 2018 10:43 a.m.
Arvail love the new name. It also has the upside of being harder to confuse with "Deceiver" (;
OP, thanks for your honesty. It always seems like the first step towards personal healing is the admission that there is a real problem, and the first step towards the growth of a community is when people like you give us permission to realize that none of us can be as perfect as the curated Internet profiles we use as disguises. As a community, we can lower the masks and be our true, messy selves, and that will make us stronger even if it's tough at first. (It might sound like wishful thinking for a somewhat loose community like T/O, but this also applies to our families and friends IRL, as I'm sure you've learned.)
I think a lot of folks here, myself included, have had to take a hard look at our commitment level to MtG and perhaps also confront more pernicious addictions. It's good to be reminded that we're not as perfect as we'd like to sometimes pretend, but despite our failings and our insecurities about those failings, there's a community that accepts us, loves us, and upvotes our janky decks no matter what (:
I'd like to offer my ear, along with you, to be a listener and friend to anybody who wants to reach out about an addiction to Magic or anything else. We've all been there; we all need help sometimes, and if a friendly ear can be helpful, then I'm glad to offer it!
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AgentGreen, Azorius control was huge back then with Sphinx's Revelation, Jace AoT, and Detention Sphere. That's the one I'm most familiar with, and I'm not sure any other guild was that powerful in Constructed. It really depends on the meta, though, because Elixir of Immortality was in Standard at the time, which pushed Azorius over the top.
September 5, 2018 7:12 a.m.
Anybody have a guess on how to pronounce the newest split card, Status // Statue? Status or Statue?
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor Gatecrash was extremely aggressive. Dragon's Maze was pretty unfocused. I started in RTR, though, so I'm not the Limited expert here(:
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