|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
Combos Browse all
Target creature and all other creatures with the same name as that creature get -2/-2 until end of turn.
Echoing Decay Discussion
6 months ago
marcello627, thank you for the suggestions! I have found Victim of the night to occasionally not be able to target creatures, so I prefer Grasp of Darkness as it kills a significantly high proportion of threats with significant efficiency, and Echoing Decay is used far more that I had expected to kill two or more targets. Way more than I expected, to be honest. I think both have performed well.
Cower in Fear is absolutely worth the sideboard card spot. That card is GREAT against so many decks.
Another Gray Merchant of Asphodel is fine, but I'll stick with 3. It definitely swings games wildly. I don't know, 3x just seems like a good fit for now.
I like Barren Moor quite a bit, but I think 2x is enough (currently have 1x and have been toying with 2x). There is an element of speed needed for this deck, and tapped lands aren't helpful. Barren Moor is definitely a useful card, so I'll definitely be tinkering with that one.
Sign in Blood is really good; I just haven't needed it and prefer to stick with the removal instead. Personal preference based on play with this so far. That's another card that may make it eventually. At this point, I haven't needed the extra cards. I prefer to keep the creatures and removal higher for now. Still, 2 cards for the casting of a single card is pretty efficient, so it's definitely a card on my radar.
I tried Unearth and found the removal was better to have.
Dead Weight is extremely underrated! That card is amazing for slowing down Gurmag Angler , killing faeries, killing delvers, slowing down other threats, AND it is a permanent (if it didn't kill the target) that helps with devotion. I like Chainer's Edict a lot, but in this case (because of devotion) dead weight synergizes a bit better.
Thanks again for the suggestions!
6 months ago
This is silly in the best way possible, that being said I think these changes would help. -2x Grasp of Darkness and -2x Echoing Decay for +4x Victim of Night , put the decays in the sideboard replacing the Cower in Fear . Decay is good in certain matches and a single target removal in others, making Victim better in most situations. I'd also put in +3x Barren Moor s and -3x Swamp s. I'd try and work in another Gray Merchant too since it's just too good not to have 4 of them. 4x Sign in Blood could also help with card draw and using the big life total to your advantage. Unearth ing the rats sounds like just the right amount of wackiness this deck needs, not sure what to cut though. I'd also remove the 2 Dead Weight s for 2 more edicts. Really cool deck idea, I'll have to try this out sometime.
6 months ago
I really like the idea behind this deck.
How are you planning on handling something like Electrickery , Echoing Decay , or Echoing Truth ? The rats also trade with tokens or elves which means you can't attack with anything other than your gnawers without impacting your Gary plan.
Dealing with flyers will also be challenging. Maybe it's worth adding more removal at the expense of the draw from Dusk Legion Zealot ?
It might be worth thinking about some cards like Ruin Rat or Rancid Rats for the deathtouch to deal with Anglers. Also, Rancid Rats gives you some evasion which may help in getting monarch back in the event that you lose it.
I think Gnat Miser would be an interesting inclusion if you feel like you want more on the hand disruption package. Rotting Rats is a symmetric effect but it has unearth to give an extra activation of its ETB and given your card draw you can use that to your advantage, or before you toss our Gary you can unearth them to pump up your devotion.
7 months ago
Hi guys, i'm an old school MtG player who got on MTGO for the first time 4 days ago. I've only played Mono Black in a casual format until now, so i'm not an expert.
I've chosen to play the Pauer format on MTGO and i've started with a UB Teachings... this is my Decklist:
INSTANT: 1x Dispel 1x Disfigure 1x Tragic Slip 4x Counterspell 1x Deprive 2x Essence Scatter 1x Doom Blade 1x Diabolic Edict 3x Think Twice 1x Soul Manipulation 3x Forbidden Alchemy 1x Mystical Teachings
I've got more losses than wins (probably mostly due to the fact the i'm new to this type of deck) but i'm wondering if you guys have some tips for maximize my chances to win consedering the actual meta in pauper.
I'm not playing in tournaments right now.
I'VE GOT A BUDGET OF 5 TIX TO SPEND FOR THE POWER UPS!
Thanks in advice!!
8 months ago
Hey there! Your deck needs a bit of work, it looks like it's running a lot that has fallen out of favor lately. It needs streamlining, and some better cantrips too. First off, Ponder , Preordain , Gitaxian Probe and Brainstorm should replace Portent , Opt , Peek , Thought Scour , and Mental Note . It'll give you much better filtering and allow you to dig for answers more efficiently. Second, if you're running mainboard fliers Stormbound Geist is much more resilient than Sultai Scavenger , and easier to get out too. Warped Landscape isn't amazing in this format.. 18 Lands is correct, but it's best to run more fetches to pump out Anglers quicker (3 Terramorphic Expanse , 3 Evolving Wilds , 1 Ash Barrens and a 9/2 Split for basics, Islands being the 9). Gush makes your late-game so much more powerful, and the synergy with Foil is comparable to Force of Will , so you'll want 3 of each. Snuff Out is also important for your removal suite, which should also include a copy of Chainer's Edict and 2 Echoing Decay s. One or two extra Augur of Bolas never hurt anyone. Finally, you might also want to run Curse of Chains and Dispel .
If you need a resource to check what U/B Delver is running atm, you should look at MTGGoldfish's Pauper Meta review, it'll show you the top-tier lists and give you an idea what you should run.
8 months ago
This could be a slick Mono-Black list. Probably a mono-black devotion deck. Gray Merchant of Asphodel , Geralf's Messenger , and Relentless Dead as a mini-zombie theme, Gatekeeper of Malakir , Bloodghast , and Kitesail Freebooter s to finish up the creature-base, with seriously high-value creatures, all of which add to devotion, and the rest of the mainboard can be removal like Fatal Push , Disfigure , Echoing Decay , Go for the Throat , etc. as well as discard in the forms of Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek .
A sideboard filled with Duress against control (as though they could surive your onslaught of discard and recursive threats in the mainboard), Leyline of the Void against dredge and phoenix, Fulminator Mage against tron, Whip of Erebos for needed midrangy lifegain and recursion shenanigans, and whatever suits your meta, be it Ratchet Bomb against artifacts, tokens, or enchantments you find troublesome, Night of Souls' Betrayal for anti-swarm, Phyrexian Arena / Dark Confidant if you need some more grind, etc.
10 months ago
Blue-Black or Mono-Black, with some in Jeskai, Rakdos, Grixis, and Izzet
Really, blue has some reasonably good card draw, specifically Augur of Bolas, Mulldrifter, Preordain, Ponder, and interaction in the form of Counterspell and the occasional Deprive. Otherwise, they don't have a great set of wincons, sweepers, or removal, so they need another color to get those.
In comparison, black has Gurmag Angler, a great wincon, and the best removal in the forms of Evincar's Justice, Echoing Decay, Shrivel, Pestilence, Cuombajj Witches, Disfigure, Chainer's Edict, Oubliette, Doom Blade, they have lifegain, discard like Duress, Distress, Chittering Rats, card draw like Phyrexian Rager, Thorn of the Black Rose, Sign in Blood, and mono-colored payoffs like Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Tendrils of Corruption. There are even more great control cards from hate like Nihil Spellbomb, efficient spells like Cartouche of Ambition that just do a lot, land destruction like Choking Sands, more discard that is splashable like Addle, and the other following cards:
Diabolic Edict, Wrench Mind, Raven's Crime, Innocent Blood (for creatureless lists), Dead Weight, Crypt Incursion, Complete Disregard, Nausea, Reaping the Graves, Undying Evil, Read the Bones, Divest, Rancid Earth, Icequake, Dusk Legion Zealot, Okiba-Gang Shinobi, Tragic Slip, Crypt Rats, Stinkweed Imp
That isn't to say a good mix of both isn't the best option, it probably is. You lose the mono-black payoffs, but get Probe, Forbidden Alchemy, Soul Manipulation. Really though, black is more useful than blue.
1 year ago
NV_1980 Thanks for taking a look and leaving a comment!
Your assessments are pretty spot on as far as speed and the means of winning go. This deck is a grind to play with and against. Which I find fun(not everybody else does). Where this deck shines is against midrange and some control strategies.
Strategies that are really tough to beat are the hyper fast aggro that can drop more than 2 threats in a turn(mono green stompy), and token swarm strategies. I haven't run into life gain with this yet but that sounds like a nightmare matchup. Surprisingly this deck has preformed pretty well against Gruul Cascade, unless that deck explodes with BTE and Violent Outbursts but that's going to be hard to beat with any deck.
Although I'm not big on Jace's Erasure (not a fan of mill personally) I definitely see the strategy and the strength of that as an alt win condition. So I miiiight consider it.
I think the curse is too slow and doesn't do enough for me vs aggro or tokens. I could see getting hit in the face a bunch while my opponent takes 5 damage and I get beat down to 0. I would rather bring in Nausea out of the board or more Echoing Decay.
I do however love the Drake as an option and will definitely be testing with it. Top notch suggestion, I think it can definitely add some real power and inevitability to the list other than Gurmag. Finding a cut will be painful though haha.
Thanks again for you're comments, your the best!
No data for this card yet.