Chittering Rats

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Darksteel (DST) Common

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Chittering Rats

Creature — Rat

When Chittering Rats enters the battlefield, target opponent puts a card from his or her hand on top of his or her library.

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Chittering Rats Discussion

Oloro_Magic on skirge control

1 month ago

Chittering Rats could be an interesting card here, two devotion and disruption is not a bad deal.

As for the sideboard, Harsh Scrutiny comes to mind as a card that could be good.

Xica on Help make a competitive Rat ...

2 months ago

APPLE01DOJ
"If you want to make a deck competitive you simply need to add competitive cards."
The statement above is only true if you are talking about midrange.
Combo decks for example, can do pretty well with rarely played cards.
Same is true about prison strategies.


Pack Rat is an extremely powerful card, but - like many others - its suffered from what i like to card "standard visibility syndrome".

When a card does well in standard, as it rotates out modern spikes pick it up, and keep it for a year or so in the deck, if its not integral to the strategy.Some examples:
Kolaghan's Command, Courser of Kruphix, Huntmaster of the Fells  Flip, Olivia Voldaren... etc.
Such cards go in and out of Jund all the time, while its core of Dark Confidant, Tarmogoyf, Liliana of the Veil, Raging Ravine & Lightning Bolt are always included.

That doesn't mean that Kolaghan's Command, or Courser of Kruphix are bad.
(Tireless Tracker & Grim Flayer are the next two cards to come out from the "only true competitive" Jund lists...)

Its entirely possible to build a prison deck with discard, rats with deathtouch + 6-8x Viridian Longbow, and some crazy stuff like recurring Chittering Rats

casmiel on Rat Rape

3 months ago

No problem, here is what you can do:

  • -4 Elixir of Immortality This is a sideboard card against mill

  • -3 Doubling Chant I can see why you'd want it, when it is good it is really good. But it is expensive and your board has to be good already to make this worth the mana. In long and drawn-out games with a boardstall this could be what breaks the tie, in every other game you'd probably want something else. While tempting, I think your deck is better without it. You can also dismiss your dual lands and have much better mana this way

  • -1 Thrumming Stone A basic rule of thumb in Magic is play 3 copies of a card you want to see once and 4 copies of a card you want to see in multiples. 1 Stone in play is enough, more is already overkill. It is generally very rare to ever run 4 copies of a 5 mana card without any mana ramp

  • -2 Marrow-Gnawer Good to break a boardstall or pump your Pack Rat, but 4 copies is a bit much for the high cost. I'd probably play none, but if your games go long this might be good

  • -2 Ratcatcher 6 Mana is too much for a card that has to survive a turn before doing anything

  • Cut lands to ~22

  • Swap Despise for Duress. Black is the color with the most answers to creatures, but you have no artifact/enchantment removal or counterspells. That is why non-creature spells are more dangerous, you want to discard the likes of Wrath of God instead of some creature. YOu can have Despise in the sideboard if your opponent runs almost only creatures

From this point on there are basically 3 ways you can take the deck

  1. Discard and control. Chittering Rats, Rotting Rats, Ravenous Rats. Pair that with some Ninjutsu like Throat Slitter and recycle their enter the battlefield effects, have backup removal like Fatal Push or Victim of Night to keep their board under control. You kill them slowly and painfully by killing their threats and shredding their hand

  2. All-in Relentless Rats. Close to what you already have here, maybe throw in a Metallic Mimic or 2. You basically go super-wide and try to land your rippler. Ravenous Rats, Pack Rat with Thrumming Stone, ~8 discard spells and 4-5 removal spells to keep you alive until your board is overwhelming. You'll have around 14-16 Relentless Rats in your deck this way

  3. Aggressive Rats. Swarm of Rats, Mogis's Marauder, Typhoid Rats, Bad Moon. Probably splash Red for Gobhobbler Rats and Lightning Bolt. In this build you just try to kill your opponent as fast as you can. I can't really say Rats are very impressive as an aggressive tribe though.

maxon on Modern Budget Competitive Discard

5 months ago

APPLE01DOJ, This is my current brew. All the changes are with cards I actually have, except for The Rack which I have proxies of until I pick up the rest of the stuff I want to change. I was thinking Chittering Rats would swap out with Blightning. I will also be picking up Lavaclaw Reaches.

What do you think of this build so far? Feel free to pick it apart.

maxon on Rat Heavy Discard

5 months ago

Titilanious Thanks for the suggestions. Yeah, Patron of the Nezumi is not very good. I was having problems with late game blocking especially, and with the rat offering option of Patron, I could cast if for only 4 mana if I had a Chittering Rats. Unfortunately it was usually dead in my hand. Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni actually wasn't bad in earlier versions of this build which was way more rat heavy and included more Typhoid Rats, Nezumi Cutthroat, Swarm of Rats as well as Skullsnatcher. I would swing with my army of rats, and just ninjutsu him out. It was more about sneaking in 5 damage than stealing a creature. However, as this deck progressed, I cut more and more rats in favor of discard spells and removal which kind of forced me to hold back the few rats I did have for blocks.


Thank you for the advice. I will definitely be doing some thinking and tinkering.

Jantun on Alesha Combo/Control (Competitive)

6 months ago

I very much like this take on Alesha and also your detailed explanations of the combo breakdowns. Well done!

This deck seems to have it all, I cannot think of much for helpful suggestions. There's Faceless Butcher which is just a black Fiend Hunter if you are looking to give that mechanic greater odds of showing up. And if you are pulling off the ETB-LTB loop with a creature of choice, Chittering Rats might be a good utility to bleed your opponents of answers, like an ever painful Stifle.

+1, and lots of fun!

Whiskerbro on I Get By

6 months ago

I'm curious exactly what you like with black here. Gets you a mediocre exalted effect and a mediocre unblockable dude, but I think blue is just a much better fit, as it gets you more and better unblockable guys, as well as better exalted, and can let you dig for more creatures.

Now on to replacements for Mind Rot and Doom Blade. And I forgot to mention, Duress is good, but you probably don't want to be running more than one or two in the mainboard, as it can be a completely dead card in certain matchups. Snuff Out is a potential option that can be cheated out for a big life swing. I also like Chainer's Edict because it's very good against Bogles decks, but it does struggle against stuff like aristocrats or stompy, really anything that has Young Wolf. Hideous End, Grasp of Darkness, or Victim of Night are all options here as well.

Past removal, there are some utility cards that could be good here. Unearth is great cause everything's low CMC. Night's Whisper or Read the Bones can stop you from running out of steam lategame. Maybe you could just run some solid creatures as well, Chittering Rats provides some sweet disruption and has a fine body. I'd look to cut your Guardians of Akrasa as well, as the card is pretty bad. I think you'd be better off with another solid creature rather than running one just because it says exalted on it.

Bulletproofcats on [Primer] Nightmare by Design (Chainer) UPDATED

7 months ago

Vasseer Thank you again for reading through my explanations. Now as for you suggestions, everything but Chittering Rats has been in the deck at some point.

Nether Traitor's body is irrelevant as he won't be around to block or attack. Is ran Reassembling Skeleton over him for awhile and since I always have a creature dying Traitor is cheaper to bring back.

Dictate of Erebos was also in the deck along with Butcher of Malakir. Decided I didn't need all that.

Library of Leng is there as a just incase. If I have Necro out and need my cards it allows me to put them into my hand and not exile the rest. and I don't need Chainer to waste mana keeping a creature. Don't want to replace the lands I already have.

Mindcrank over anything else because it doesn't require anything after its cast. I don't need to dump mana into Chainer into it. I have Mindslicer for that.

Dark Depths is a card i have never really liked, plus 30 mana is better used else where.

Despise will be switched out for Thoughtseize I was using it in another deck and slipped my mind on putting it back it.

Night's Whisper will probably find its way in as I want to run both.

Darkness being able to tutor for it and cast in response to being dealt lethal has saved me quite a few times.

Rune-Scarred Demon ran for a long time. decided I had enough tutor effects. I do side board it though.

Infernal Darkness I figured I have the tutors to pull and stick Contamination I don't need a second one.

Skullclamp was omitted because of Necro, I have it side boarded though.

Laquatus's Champion I decided against this as that is really mana intense and its a dead card IMO if I draw it.

All in all you are right that Chainer isn't that best at all. I liked that challenge of it. Also never played the deck 1v1 as I know Ill be murdered. But I don't mean to come off rude! I am always playing this deck and all your suggestions are in the side board. They will be rotated in and possibly permeant as the deck evolves! Thank you again! and happy deck building

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