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Creature — Troll Shaman
Hexproof (This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
: Regenerate Troll Ascetic.
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Troll Ascetic Discussion
1 day ago
Also, it would be a whole different deck, but instead of a control shell, you could go bant. You'd then get Presence of Gond, and you could play Geist of Saint Traft, Thrun, the Last Troll or Troll Ascetic, or even Sylvan Caryatid as hexproof creatures to just put the presence on. You could also play Beck / Call and draw a million cards when you make all the tokens.
3 months ago
Lotleth Troll and Troll Ascetic are just begging to be in a Varolz deck. Also, If you can afford it, Mesmeric Orb is a great mill card to try and get your critters in grave. Sure, It can hurt you late game, but if you're seeing late game, then you haven't done your job right. I am also a huge fan of Nyx Weaver in any self mill deck, as it can save some key cards. On that note, more options (some non-budget than others) include Life from the Loam, Entomb, and Eternal Witness, Nether Traitor, Tormented Soul, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, and Primal Rage.
3 months ago
Happy i could help :)
Kitchen Finks is a great card and the perfect creature for your needs. Eternal Witness is just as fitting, but limiting yourself to 1-2 copies seems right, since drawing too many of them can be become awkward with nothing meaningful to return. It's just a 2/1, so its ability really has to deliver. Unfortunately, Eldritch Evolution exiles itself upon resolution. (However, there are matchups where it's quite powerful to have Eternal Witnesses returning eachother in a loop whenever one of them dies. But those matchups are too infrequent to justify more than 2 copies in my opinion.)
As for other 3-drop creatures to sacrifice, i am not really sure what the best options are for your colors. Troll Ascetic is a good card for sure, but usually you don't really want to sacrifice it. Wolfir Avenger and Yasova Dragonclaw i'm not a big fan of, both require quite a bit of mana, otherwise they aren't all that great. Carven Caryatid is good if you sacrifice it or not, but such a defensive creature unfortunately doesn't fit well into your strategy. Tuktuk the Explorer can be insane if you can make him die, otherwise it's a 3 mana Raging Goblin. Goblin Ruinblaster seems really good, but it usually requires 4 mana. Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Borderland Ranger or Filigree Familiar might be okay, with the Familiar being the best of the three in my opinion.
As for 5-drops, i like the dragons and Thragtusk a lot, Blitz Hellion i don't have any experience with so i can't judge it, but Urabrask the Hidden isn't quite on the same level as the others i believe. An interactive card like Acidic Slime might be better, since that solves problems the other cards can't handle (like Ensnaring Bridge or Oblivion Stone). A total of 8 five mana creatures seems okay, but i would rather go down than up in number.
Maybe you could fit a Kessig Wolf Run into your mana base, it's quite a nice mana sink. 22-23 lands total seems right though.
I think i would sideboard Forked Bolt to beat aggressive decks, Ancient Grudge against Affinity etc, Magus of the Moon to punish greedy mana bases, and Burning-Tree Shaman to shut down some combo decks.
1-2 Reclamation Sage and the Thragtusk can definitely stay in the sideboard, and Loaming Shaman and Guttural Response can be good tools as well, the other cards i don't think you really need.
5 months ago
Thank you all for your suggestions.
Sgt.Pickles I have play-tested this deck quite a lot and 20 Forrests seems quite fine for me. On the other hand, I was forced to run Rancor 4x in the mainboard plus I also put in Silhana Ledgewalker, which is more agressive than Troll Ascetic.
The idea of this deck is to run it Mono-Green so other colors are out of debate. TappedOut is full of GW hexproof decks, I wanted to created something different and unique in its own way :)
5 months ago
I used to have an intruder alarm combo deck in modern. Was purely simic though. I played four Sylvan Caryatid, four Birds of Paradise, four Presence of Gond, four Troll Ascetic, four Intruder Alarm, and four Drift of Phantasms (which can transmute to look for intruder alarm.
8 months ago
Most important thing in modern? manabase. You can't afford mana screw the first three turns unless you have a very weird deck. For budget lists I tend to stick to monocolour- I have some neat mono-black lists that kick butt. Knotvine mystic, as much as I love it, will not survive the turn it is played, and as much as I love Meglonoth and Godsire you will never be able to cast them against any deck playing removal (read, every deck bar some extreme aggro strats).Card advantage and board presence are big things in modern, and broadly speaking you have three strategies- aggro, which runs a lot of 1-drops and just kills turn three/four. Look at Goblin Bushwhacker/Reckless Bushwhacker, Loam Lion, Kird Ape and co if you want to try this. Cards like Vines of Vastwood to protect your creatures. For midrange, you want removal spells like Path to Exile, Condemn and so forth for the first few turns, alongside some acceleration into cards that trade two or three for one, to take out an opponent in those middle turns of the game. Some strategies include Troll Ascetic, Thrun, the Last Troll, Witchstalker or planeswalkers, or a more focussed strategy like Avalanche Riders type land destruction or Demigod of Revenge reanimation. Control decks basically just run removal, card draw and a couple things which eventually win. Its pretty rare to see one of these in naya colours.
Haste is a wonderful ability for your larger cards, and cards with it only rarely break the bank- a Stormbreath Dragon will soon dodge almost all relevant removal in the format, often closing out the game. Cards like Fatal Push, Path to Exile, Lightning Bolt, Abrupt Decay are all there to watch out for.
For mana cards the important thing is those first three turns. that means that lands that come in tapped are a major disadvantage. While on a budget, cards like Battlefield Forge, Inspiring Vantage, and so forth that are cheap, are untapped, but unfortunately don't pump Wild Nacatl and co.Biggest peice of advice? cut it to two colours or to monocolour if you're working on a budget, as lands and mana consistancy is where budget decks struggle, focus on three or four cheap, efficient cards that you want to cast every game and just build your deck to do that. Mayael's Aria/Greater Gargadon for example, and build the rest as manadorks and removal to achieve that. Lightning Helix/Condemn as removal/lifegain, for example.Good luck, have fun brewing, and test your decks before you buy.
8 months ago
Get rid of Talara's Battalion, Deadly Recluse and Troll Ascetic, replace them with Elvish Mystic or Llanowar Elves, useful but cheap big ceatures like terrastomper, Phytotitan or for a really big one like Outland Colossus. Replace Fog with Winds of Qal Sisma, replace Titanic Growth with Groundswell, try to work Predator's Strike, Nature's Way or Beast Within into your deck. And to top it all off, Wild Defiance to make every single one of your buff spells basically DOUBLE in effect, also, mild form of burn protection from your opponents. If you are afraid of fliers, maybe consider Raking Canopy for your sideboard.
9 months ago
seeing the name of this deck got me all excited....seeing the decklist...not as much sadly....(nostalgia of being one of those ppl that actually played Angel Stompy Slide in Legacy on and off during onslaught era and thereafter).
The original Standard lists used Exalted Angel morphed, and then cycle/slide it out to flip it rather than pay 2. Eternal Dragon, Akroma's Vengeance and frequently used Gilded Light and Decree of Justice. This is in addition to Slide/Rift/cycling lands of course.
The Legacy lists at the time were far more interesting. Among the All-Stars of all of the Legacy lists; Fluctuator and the Urza's Saga Cycling Lands... Slippery Karst, Drifting Meadow, Polluted Mire (I'm just listing just Abzan) and sometimes even Blasted Landscape as it doesn't etb tapped. After Life from the Loam was printed one of my favorite variants was Abzan with Unearth, Witness, Slide and Invigorating Boon + Troll Ascetic. Flicker Witness, slide away any blockers and Grow-a-Troll....With a ridiculous dredge draw engine once you get Fluctuator/Life from the Loam & 3x Urza's Cycle lands. (Cast Loam, grab 3 cycle lands, cycle all three for free, decline the draw on the 3rd to dredge Loam back....)
I'm not suggesting you go with any of the variants above per say, just hoping to familiarize you with some of what you might have missed from the era. As for your current list I'd say your thought to ditch red is right on track. I've tried numerous variants of slide with Rift / Land's Edge and or Seismic Assault and while entertaining, I wasn't happy with the way any of these preformed. I think right now is a great time to revisit this casual deck as commander 2016 just gave it a shiny new gift in the form of Ash Barrens. Ordering 4 of these online seems like a must! Sooooo if you go with 3-4 Fluctuators (which is a more disrupt-able/semi-reliant route, but extremely powerful when it works) I'd say 2x of each of the abzan colored Urza's cycling lands and 1x each Onslaught cycle lands. Without Fluctuator I'd still go up to 3x each Onslaught land. This is in addition to 4x Ash Barren, ditch evolving wilds/terramorphic expanse. With a better mana base, we no longer need Edge of Autumn. Rampant Growth with a cycling ability that sacs lands when you've already been playing half your lands tapped on etb in Slide which is already a slow control deck is horrible. I'd probably go -1 Rhino and +1 Unearth (maybe even +2) as well as finding more aggro-ish 3 drops in place of your 6 walls (not that I'm not a fan of either of the walls, this just doesn't seem like the place for them in spite of the etb flavor).
Anyways I'm hoping you find some inspiration within the wall of text I just carved out, and I'm giving you an upvote regardless what you do to the deck from here, just cause it's awesome to see someone actually playing SLIDE!
GL & HF...