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Format | Legality |
1v1 Commander | Legal |
Alchemy | Legal |
Archenemy | Legal |
Arena | Legal |
Block Constructed | Legal |
Canadian Highlander | Legal |
Casual | Legal |
Commander / EDH | Legal |
Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
Custom | Legal |
Duel Commander | Legal |
Gladiator | Legal |
Highlander | Legal |
Historic | Legal |
Historic Brawl | Legal |
Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
Limited | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Planar Constructed | Legal |
Planechase | Legal |
Quest Magic | Legal |
Vanguard | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Rules Q&A
- Jon irenicus, shattered one and shroud
- How does donating a creature interact with temporary or conditional mind control effects?
- Using these two cards, can I force my opponent to pay life when attacking?
- This creature can't be sacrificed + Parasitic Implant. What happens?
- When does the targeting of Jon Irenicus, Shattered One happen?
Jon Irenicus, Shattered One
Legendary Creature — Elf Wizard
At the beginning of your end step, target opponent gains control of up to one target creature you control. Put two +1/+1 counters on it and tap it. It's goaded for the rest of the game and it gains "This creature can't be sacrificed." (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
Whenever a creature you own but don't control attacks, you draw a card.
Flarhoon13 on
Nagao, the Uncommon Commander of Seven Samurai
5 months ago
May 3, 2024 I started a new quest. Having built 52 decks, I endeavoured to play them all, in roughly the same order as I created them.
Nagao, the Uncommon Commander of Seven Samurai win* Not a legitimate win. Got shut down from Jon Irenicus, Shattered One's gifted Evil Eye of Urborg, then killed Jesse via milling out Dave. Jesse used Modify Memory to gift me Will's commander, Phenax, God of Deception, while Dave had been given Will's Syr Konrad, the Grim. I milled out Dave and the Konrad damage killed Jesse. Will, tired, just said he didn't know his life total on his fishing rod life counter and conceded 12-11. .522
Flarhoon13 on
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician. No stax!
5 months ago
May 3, 2024 I started a new quest. Having built 52 decks, I endeavoured to play them all, in roughly the same order as I created them.
May 31
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician. No stax! 8-9 Loss, Did get off Pyxis of Pandemonium (I love this card too much to take it out of the deck lol) for 15, possibly could've won but Jon Irenicus, Shattered One foiled my Dismiss into Dream, negating the forced sacrifice. Still, had a couple fetch lands with Retreat to Coralhelm but didn't think to use it--I could have fetched and used the landfall trigger to tap down the potential attacker--this only occurred to me after a Kemba, Kha Regent deck killed me with a massively equipped Archfiend of the Dross, which Jon Irenicus, Shattered One had so kindly donated . .471
Pyxis of Pandemonium won me a couple games. Once, it got me enough attackers to fuel infinite turns via a Magistrate's Scepter. Another game, it undid a Vampiric Tutor. Mike took a couple minutes for his search, too, not realizing that the Pyxis of Pandemonium would exile his card. Hilarious! I held on to win that one!
Crow_Umbra on I wanna be the evil …
8 months ago
I think Red/Black is a great core to have as a component of "evilness". The third color gives you different flavors of villainy.
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Malik, Grim Manipulator - Especially if the Universes Beyond version isn't your cup of tea.
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Extus, Oriq Overlord Flip/Awaken the Blood Avatar Flip - For a different flavor of Evil Wizard that isn't Grixis.
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Anhelo, the Painter / Lord Xander, the Collector - If you want a different flavor of Grixis beyond "Evil Wizard". From having played Anhelo, he's a weird mix of spellslinger and Aristocrats that kinda pushes and pulls between the archetypes.
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Henzie "Toolbox" Torre - Henzie is more amoral than evil in lore. From consistently playing against my best friend's Henzie deck, this is definitely a commander that can consistently become the arch enemy of games. Highly recommend him for how explosive he can be.
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Laughing Jasper Flint - Play a bunch of Outlaws and twirl your imaginary mustache. Olivia, Opulent Outlaw adds white and all the support and excellent removal options from it.
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Prosper, Tome-Bound
- Prosper seems more like an amoral Warlock, than actually evil. Regardless, Prosper has quite a reputation, and can turn into an archenemy at tables. I used to play him, and didn't expect him to get nearly as much Treasure and Impulse/Exile play support as he did since his debut. He could also be a value piece in Jasper Flint or Olivia, since Warlocks are Outlaws.
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Jon Irenicus, Shattered One - Another different flavor of Evil Wizard. Can be a fun kind of evil depending on the creatures you donate to your opponents.
Just a handful of options I can think of off the top of my head.
Crow_Umbra on Edh options
10 months ago
A bit more unconventional compared to some of the other options here, but my best friend recently put together a Jon Irenicus, Shattered One deck that donates creatures with hefty downsides or with Infect. It's a different take on Goad and combat control compared to many of the options listed here.
He's not active on Tapped Out anymore, but here's his deck list if you want an idea of what he brewed up.
Gabolicious on
Pooping Outside the Litterbox (Marisi Goad)(C)
10 months ago
I have my own group slug deck I'm tweaking still before play testing, with Jon Irenicus, Shattered One as the commander (lots of creatures that do nasty stuff to their controllers to give away). But I really just came here to say I logged in and this deck was on the splash page, right as one of my cats took a dump a few feet away (in the box, but still). Felt pretty fortuitous. ;p
This looks like fun, both for you and to play against - I hope it works out for you!
TheoryCrafter on No sacrifice
1 year ago
Coward_Token on Murders at Karlov Manor
1 year ago
Disappointed with the new cards in the Boros deck. Too much politicking and random burn, not enough goading synergy. And the one good goading matters card doesn't work with Marisi, Breaker of the Coil or Jon Irenicus, Shattered One, my favored goading commanders. (Well, at least my rank #3 Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer is happy.)
Mave on
endles whispers edh
1 year ago
I read the thread when I tried to look up the rules for the cards which is kinda important for EDH Endless Whispers. (I plan on including it in Obeka)
In a 1v1 match it mostly tries to get the best creature of an opponent while donating negative effects. But in commander it becomes a game of "hot potato" where you can never be sure who gets the creatures of another player but you can decide what "garbage" you donate. That is the gist of what the deck will do in a multiplayer game.
Depending on what you give away you may want cards that can counter triggered abilities in case ove Leveler, Sky Swallower, Boldwyr Heavyweights, Eater of Days, Hunted Wumpus, Inverter of Truth, Dust Elemental, Avatar of Discord, Indentured Djinn Ebon Drake Plague Reaver Master of the Feast Tempting Wurm, the haunted one like Hunted Troll, Hunted Dragon,Hunted Dragon, Hunted Lammasu or Hunted Phantasm. Personally I would use Obeka, Brute Chronologist to counter the ETB of the creatures you play by ending the turn and then giving them to an opponent. But that only works for when the creature with negative effect enters the battlefield during your turn. But it is a great plan B in case you don't have Endless Whispers to give your opponents creatures from the list above by simply playing an 8/8 trample for then ending the turn before the trigger resolves.
Other options are Jon Irenicus, Shattered One or Blim, Comedic Genius both want your opponents to control your creatures. If you just want the effect of giving your opponents negative ETBs you can also build a deck on The Beamtown Bullies. But including Endless Whispers in this deck can backfire by giving you one of the negative effects if the creature dies. And it also is hard to let e.g. Leveler enter the battlefield to donate it through endless whispers. What helps with that may be to manifest a creature with a negative effect with e.g. Scroll of Fate. You can also manifest creatures with negative effect from your library but that is a bit more random.
To prevent getting creatures with negative effects from your opponents you to gain hexproof. There are plenty of effects giving yourself hexproof in white but I couldn't find a good commander for that. To gain hexproof yourself in a non white deck you most likely need Orbs of Warding which may be the way to go to prevent opponents to return the hot potato to you. Which is what I do in Obeka (sadly I don't have any list online of that deck).
If you like Endless Whispers to take your opponent cards however you might rather want to play Grave Betrayal or Lim-Dul the Necromancer. Overall it can still be used as a politicle tool. Especially if you donate one of the Haunted once you can build a pact with another player that you always trade them with each other to get more and more tokens.
Talking tokens it is also possible to put Endless Whispers in Grismold, the Dreadsower which gets into the direction of Dagger Burn known through Rampaging Ferocidon, Trespasser's Curse, Massacre Wurm, Slaughter Specialist and e.g. Illness in the Ranks/Virulent Plague. Whenever you donate Hunted Troll to an opponent or it enters the battlefield you let the 1/1 faeris directly die causing Grismold to trigger and also cards like Poison-Tip Archer.
It is also possible to play with effects like Plaguecrafter, Abyssal Gorestalker, Gravelighter. The player who gets the creature has to sacrifice one creature less and choses who sacrifice one creature less the next turn. But as long as you profit from death triggers via e.g. enchantments or artifacts you will profit most from your favourite card.
I also like Rakdos the Defiler to use Endless Whisper. After all one can donate some negative effects and if the opponent sacrifices creatures they have to donate them to someone else. Altough that also works better in 1v1.
I hope the explanation helps to find the right deck to play Endless Whispers in Commander.
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