How does donating a creature interact with temporary or conditional mind control effects?

Asked by meecht 1 year ago

I'm building an EDH deck for Jon Irenicus, Shattered One and I want to make sure I understand how donation and mind control effects interact.

Situation A: I use Sower of Temptation to steal a creature from Player A.
1. If I use Jon's ability to donate the creature to Player B then Sower leaves the battlefield, does Player A get their creature back?
2. If I donate both Sower and the effected creature to Player B, then Sower leaves the battlefield, does Player A get their creature back?

Situation B: I use Reins of Power to trade creatures with Player C.
1. If I donate one of the creatures to Player A, does Player C get their creature back at the end of turn?

Situation C: I use Shield Broker to steal a creature from Player B.
1. If I donate the creature to Player C who then removes the shield counter, does Player B get their creature back?

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1

In each of the examples you described, the player who the creature was donated to will keep control of it.

Because control-changing effects all apply in the same layer, the one with the most recent timestamp will take precedence. If an effect with an older timestamp ends, it doesn't force the most recent one to end as well. For each of your examples, the effect created by Jon Irenicus, Shattered One (or whatever you used to Donate the creature) has the most recent timestamp, so it will determine who controls the creature.

August 16, 2022 2:09 p.m.

meecht says... #2

Thank you, Rhadamanthus! I had a feeling that would be the case, but I wanted to make sure before I started creating confusing board states.

August 16, 2022 2:38 p.m.

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