Instant — Arcane
Return target legendary creature card from your graveyard to play. That creature gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.
Splice onto Arcane (As you cast an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell.)
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Goryo's Vengeance Discussion
2 months ago
I'm getting the odd feeling that is getting better at old-school Reanimator decks than , especially in Modern. A lot of key cards are either banned in Modern, or too old to use outside of Legacy or Commander. Recently, it's been getting stuff like Back for More , Return Upon the Tide , and Nissa of Shadowed Boughs ( is trying to be a support color). Yeah, Goryo's Vengeance is still around, but when was the last time it was used for anything but Griselbrand ? Unburial Rites is easier to cast for from the graveyard than from the hand.
Now, I haven't actually seen a competitive dump-and-revive Reanimator deck since Dread Return , Golgari Grave-Troll , and Bridge from Below all went away, and losing Faithless Looting didn't help either. But there's a lot of recent cards trying to do that, and I'm wondering if Mardu or even Boros will be the first to crack the code.
3 months ago
The biggest potential weakness I see in this deck is that there's a sort of "cost void" between your 1-drops and your big demons, and the biggest threats in the deck may not be the most mana efficient. For instance, I'd probably run Desecration Demon or Demon of Catastrophes in a sacrifice deck instead of Goremand . I imagine he's a pet card for you though, so maybe you could lean more into the reanimator angle to cheat him in quickly. Most modern versions seem to be running Goryo's Vengeance into Griselbrand and praetors still, but I tend to prefer the budget alternatives. Some additions to Blood for Bones and Gravewaker are repeated activation creatures like Hell's Caretaker and Whisper, Blood Liturgist . Unburial Rites is also fairly popular if you don't mind splashing white. For the discard, staples include Thoughtseize , Collective Brutality , Ransack the Lab , and Mind Rake . For sacrifice synergy, I think Smallpox and Sinister Concoction could be options too. I'm also a big fan of creatures that mill for this role such as Stitcher's Supplier (which helps to play the very useful Gravecrawler ) or the green Satyr Wayfinder and all its Mulch brethren. Reanimator lets you play other big threats too, some of which could be Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Eater of Hope , or Xathrid Demon to stick with the demon theme. Another card I see as being pretty expensive here is Soul Foundry . The aforementioned Hell's Caretaker can usually produce a similar result without the 1 mana tax every turn. Furthermore, the tokens it creates could interfere with Grim Haruspex , a card draw engine I usually prefer to Dark Prophecy (or maybe Harvester of Souls if I'm feeling spicy.) There is some downside in cutting noncreature permanents for their creature counterparts, so choose the option that is being hit by removal the least in your meta. If creature hate is a problem, maybe a Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos could dissuade your opponents.
4 months ago
The thing about Dragons and Demons is that they are typically large creatures, and with its large size comes large mana cost. Most of the time you'll get run over by other fast decks before you can land your large creature. I can see your playing cards that accelerates your mana and reduces cost for your threats which helps, just not sure if its enough.
What I suggest is that instead of trying to cast your large threats, just cheat them out. You can play Tin Fins / Instant reanimator by using Goryo's Vengeance. Or cheat them from your hand by using cards like Through the Breach, Quicksilver Amulet, or Elvish Piper. Still not that fast, but at least you don't have to pay the full cost of the creature.
Another thing, don't just include large creatures just because they are hard-hitting in combat. Use creatures that have immediate impact upon entering the battlefield (like Griselbrand or Kokusho that you already have) or have abilities that seriously disrupts your opponent when not immediately answered (like Sire Of Insanity).
6 months ago
Hello, I like your deck. I have a couple suggestions that synergize with the sundial and Obeka. First; Footsteps of the Goryo in case you need more reanimation effects. Secondly, since you mentioned "on a stick" which in magic can refer to Isochron Scepter, i thought you might be interested in this nice little combination of cards: Isochron Scepter + Goryo's Vengeance when played in your deck. It only works with legendary creatures but between the sundial and your commander you can get serious mileage out of it as a permanent re-animation engine.
10 months ago
This is something I've wanted to build for a long time, so seeing it makes me happy. I can see a turn 3 win. It doesn't look reliable though for a couple of reasons. 1. Only footsteps to reanimate and 2. no way of getting hulk into your hand to discard. In a nutshell you're playing reanimator, so getting hulk into the yard/play needs to be a big part of the plan. If you want to focus on getting him to the graveyard more then, then you'll probably want more looting type effects. Consider these: Insolent Neonate, Goblin Lore, Thrill of Possibility, Burning Inquiry.
If you can work a few more discard outlets into the deck, then you probably need another reanimate spell or two to get hulk into play more often. You don't get the best option in Goryo's Vengeance because hulk isn't legendary so maybe Zombify?
Another option you could try to solve both problems at once would be to cheat it into play from your hand. Through the Breach doesn't seem to be very popular at the moment and might be able to steal a few wins here and there.
A third option you could consider to solve the finding hulk problem and getting it into play is Lukka, Coppercoat Outcast. With a disciple or viscera seer in play your pretty much guaranteed to hit hulk on the -2 ability. Even the + ability is relevant given your high creature count.
The only other things I feel like you should consider for the deck is more interaction and cutting out lands that come in tapped. Modern is a very fast format and letting your opponents do whatever they want could be very dangerous. The simple suggestion is Lightning Bolt and either more shocklands/basics. The basics would work with your blood moons in the side.
But these are my thoughts and hope they help. Good luck in hulking out.
11 months ago
I think you would do well to include a couple more dredge cards and another card or two towards discard. Try moving a couple of your reanimation targets to the sb for specific matchups. Another thing to look at might be dropping some of your removal to work in a Goryo's Vengeance or 2. If you can reanimate an early Grislebrand, his draw ability could help you dredge a large amount.
11 months ago
Thank you folks for your comments and suggestions! I'll be addressing both of you and each of your suggestions in order of appearance within this message for the sake of being concise.
theseax After much playtesting, I have made the seemingly controversial decision of cutting Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth from the list. The pairing itself was a little too cute for my liking as I could never consistently boot it. Even then, on its own, Cabal Coffers requires three other land drops, specifically being swamps in order to net any sort of valuable return from it. Since the mindset of this deck is rather all-in, it often wants to pressure a win between turns 3 and 5, so I've personally opted in favor of a more consistent manabase by dropping the pair. As such, Manascape Refractor probably isn't for this deck I'm afraid. It sort of faces the same issue I had with running Urborg, making it rather dead outside of being used in conjunction with Coffers, especially since I wasn't on Mana Web either.
Meessee Chain of Smog is interesting, but I feel like it could often backfire onto me rather than being a comparable mass discard outlet. Arterial Flow seems solid, although I'm tending to favor permanents like Necrogen Mists and Bottomless Pit that can continuously accrue and churn out card advantage for me in the presence of Tinybones while disrupting my opponents. Tasigur's Cruelty is a rather high top end in the presence of Dark Confidant when I'm already running a risky top end on my curve with him.
Since I'm on Shadowbag, I greatly value the cleanup step at the end of my turn to serve as a sort of discard outlet in case I don't have Skirge Familiar or Zombie Infestation in play to do it for me. Anvil of Bogardan is probably not for my list.
Plain and simple, I like Karn, the Great Creator. Will consider.
For Geier Reach Sanitarium, I think my playgroup is going to appreciate me giving them looting effects a little too much, so I'm going to have to pass on that. I'm also not a huge fan of how Nezumi Shortfang Flip targets a single player and I don't get to see their hand and choose which card they discard.
I don't feel as though I have enough creatures to sacrifice consistently to Contamination in order to keep that sort of effect around, and through a similar vein, Infernal Darkness becomes heavily taxing on me with its cumulative upkeep trigger. I want the stax pieces I'm running to not heavily impact my lines of play while also being able to stick on the board once they resolve without any sort of maintenance conditions associated with them if that makes sense.
Conqueror's Flail is a little too dicey to run in my opinion. It's a bit expensive to boot for a Grand Abolisher effect, and I'm often sacrificing creatures on my board to Razaketh or fast mana outlets so that would be an added layer to play around and pay attention to. I like Defense Grid in here though, considering in conjunction with Shimmer Myr I could play it as a sort of interruption at instant speed to protect my combo from folding to interaction. It's just one of those cards that I should only play when I think I'm going to win and not play it just because I have to mana open to play it. The table often relies on interaction so I could otherwise kingmake if I'm not careful about it. Lastly, Boseiju, Who Shelters All probably won't get enough traction in this deck considering most of my instants and sorceries are either tutors or disruption. A protected Goryo's Vengeance or Shallow Grave would be nice, but if I was on more impactful instants like Ad Nauseam my answer might be a bit different.
Hope I addressed everything fully. Thanks again!
1 year ago
Sorry, never mind. I see. Goryo's Vengeance can be cast in response to the trigger.