Hexproof v. can't be the target of spells?

Asked by Kutdra1 8 years ago

so I'm wondering if there's a difference between a card like Privileged Position and Asceticism? Like with hexproof cards like Supreme Verdict can still get them, but will a card that like Asceticism prevent that?

DJSeras says... Accepted answer #1

Asceticism was just written before Hexproof became the shorthand for exactly what Asceticism says, its the exact same, if Asceticism were to be reprinted in standard it would say "Creatures you control have hesproof..."

On another note, Privileged Position and Asceticism are the same in terms of hexproof except PP is for all of your other permanents while A is only for your creatures

August 1, 2015 1:56 a.m.

DJSeras says... #2

*hexproof

August 1, 2015 1:56 a.m.

Kutdra1 says... #3

oh okay! cool. I was just wondering because with hexproof it says "target" creature. And Asceticism sounder more broad. but that makes sense. thanks!

August 1, 2015 2:24 a.m.

nobu_the_bard says... #4

You should check the Gatherer for the most recent text on a card before using it if possible. Changes to the game rules and vocabulary sometimes mean older cards have had textual updates. In this case, Asceticism actually does now read "Creatures you control have hexproof." This matters because this means it can be nullified by such as Glaring Spotlight.

August 1, 2015 8:47 a.m.

BlueScope says... #5

Note that while the above is correct regarding Asceticism, it's not the correct answer to what the difference between Hexproof and "can't be the target of spells and abilities your opponents control" - they are not the same!

For once, one is a keyword ability, the other is not. So Asceticism gives creatures Hexproof, which can be nullified by Glaring Spotlight indeed - however Vines of Vastwood, which has exactly the same wording, hasn't been reworded to say Hexproof, so Glaring Spotlight won't be able to get rid of the effect.

Because of that, if you give an opponent's creature Hexproof, it's controller will still be able to target it, while you won't. That is because card abilities don't have a controller, only the creature holding it does - and it's controller will be your opponent.
However, if you cast Vines of Vastwood on your opponent's creature, you can still target it. That's because the Vines's effect has been created by you, and is not a characteristic of the card, such as a keyword ability would be.

August 1, 2015 2:24 p.m.

This discussion has been closed