if you're not trying to keep it extended mercadian-masques/brainstorm.jpgBrainstorm allows you to draw three cards and then place two back on top of your library which adds 3 tokens to the alara-reborn/lorescale-coatl.jpgLorescale Coatl, i'd also suggest at least 1 less 2010-core-set/jace-beleren.jpgJace Beleren since you can only have one in play at a time.
I could use the zendikar/sphinx-of-jwar-isle.jpgSphinx of Jwar Isles, but I don't have any myself, as hard as that is to believe. But I think I am going to stick in the zendikar/bloodchief-ascension.jpgBloodchief Ascensions somehow.
DBT for the win lol i love the thoctar probably one of the most underestimated cards in the game but if used properly can be a frigin bomb shown as such above haha , rep them zombie beasts boy!!!
Firstly: my deck was not based on yours. I was adamant about building a grixis deck before I knew you were making one. However I decided not to let that affect me. I dislike having a similar deck to you, no matter which came first.
Secondly: Like any good deck of any archetype, they tend to have similarities eg most good standard jund or now vampire decks are pretty much the same as it is an archetype they tend to lack creativity.
Thirdly: Red is always good for burn. Blue for mill or control. Black for aggro or discard. I love quests and ascensions, for grixis you could use Archmage, Bloodchief, Pyromancer Ascensions; Archmage and any quest are pretty useless for this type of deck. Therefore it became essentially a discard mill with burn and ascensions to boost.
Finally: Magic is my anti-depressant, it motivates me like...well, not much else. I like to build decks to preoccupy myself, you may have noticed that none of my decks have are truly masterpieces of hidden genius; I haven't discovered any broken standard combos. Therefore my decks tend to verge on normality. I didn't intentionally 'copy' your deck, I tried to not view any grixis entries as a prevention and stuck to the gatherer. It wasn't my intention and I apologise for the apparent similarity.
try using souls majesty its a great card that doubles lorescale due to the effect of the snake , :)
oh no argument on needing anti creature removal. this deck started out with 2010-core-set/whispersilk-cloak.jpgWhispersilk Cloak and moved to zendikar/vines-of-vastwood.jpgVines of Vastwood. I actually found vines much more effective because it's just flat out cheaper and it can save me from instants or it's kicker is pretty nice as well. I do agree with +1 [terra stomper the behemoth doesnt' have trample which is annoying and an 8/8 trample is much better than a 9/9 shroud in this deck
zendikar/bloodchief-ascension.jpgBloodchief Ascension is awesome. You could replace the alara-reborn/kathari-remnant.jpgKathari Remnants with 2 zendikar/sphinx-of-jwar-isle.jpgSphinx of Jwar Isles and two zendikar/bloodchief-ascension.jpgBloodchief Ascensions. And with 24 land, you could even add a third zendikar/bloodchief-ascension.jpgBloodchief Ascension and bring your deck total up to 61. That would still be very playable.
I had no intention of getting rid of the shards-of-alara/sedraxis-specter.jpgSedraxis Specter as it is a consistant source of damage and discard if they have no flying defense. He is one of my favorite creatures. I just wish I could find some room for zendikar/bloodchief-ascension.jpgBloodchief Ascension in the deck. Pair that with some shards-of-alara/blightning.jpgBlightning and the shards-of-alara/sedraxis-specter.jpgSedraxis Specter and that would be so amazing.
Maybe 4x worldwake/jace_the_mind_sculptor.jpgJace, the Mind Sculptor instead of Beleren. I think that his effect would better suite this decks purpose.
Sorry for the confusion. All the talk about cascade was not about your deck, but rather it was about the inevitable Jund matchup. Chances are you're going to be playing against cascade at some point. Someone had commented that shards-of-alara/swerve.jpgSwerve doesn't work against cascade and wasn't sure what was recommended to use against it. alara-reborn/double-negative.jpgDouble Negative is made to hose cascade. So is zendikar/mindbreak-trap.jpgMindbreak Trap.
And shards-of-alara/sedraxis-specter.jpgSedraxis Specter is occassionally considered better than a shards-of-alara/blightning.jpgBlightning. Definitely keep it.
Mulligan: refresh is understood, but since you can't drag a card anywhere but the top, you mulligan to seven cards, instead of six (then five, etc.).
Zoom mode: sure, you can zoom on the browser, but it makes it hard to fit everything on-screen; that's why the zoom mode (roll over to zoom a card) is so nice.
@charweezy: The Oracle only allows you to play an additional land, meaning only one additional land.
I don't really see why you have 3conflux/noble-hierarch.jpgNoble Hierarchs in this build. I don't see a use for the G,W,U ability since there is no cost for that here. I would simply use a 2010-core-set/llanowar-elves.jpgLlanowar Elves or a zendikar/lotus-cobra.jpgLotus Cobra to better suit the mana needs.
Well my deck was supposed to be a more efficient version of yours, so I was taking what I learned from it to edit yours, but while I do agree that white slowed me down, you could always throw in worldwake/amulet-of-vigor.jpgAmulet of Vigor then go crazy with man lands.
If I were you I would try to work either worldwake/canopy-cover.jpgCanopy Cover or 2010-core-set/whispersilk-cloak.jpgWhispersilk Cloak into your deck so that shards-of-alara/mycoloth.jpgMycoloth doesn't get nuked the second he hits the field, and yes I do know that these things won't save him from instants, but it will prevent them from topdecking them, and the point of switching 2010-core-set/kalonian-behemoth.jpgKalonian Behemoth for zendikar/terra-stomper.jpgTerra Stomper was because your opponent is much more likely to throw all their removal at it, which they can't against the behemoth, once again saving your shards-of-alara/mycoloth.jpgMycoloth
You might notice that enchanting 2010-core-set/gargoyle-castle.jpgGargoyle Castle with one of zendikons (worldwake/wind-zendikon.jpgWind Zendikon being cheapest of them) allows you to get land back immediately after putting token into play.
Thanks for the compliments RobotsAndPuppets. And thank you misshepeshu for the combo.
Get my first entry in now:
Dragons vs. Soldiers.
It's hardly balanced yet though, the only way Dragons win is if Soldiers pull an average hand, so some tinkering will occur between now and the end of the challenge.
You never, ever, ever hardcast and Architects of Will. Ever.
You should be disappointed in yourself if you do. And worldwake/everflowing-chalice.jpgEverflowing Chalice is not that good of a choice due to the fact that now taps for zero colourless mana when revived...
I'm seeing a combo here. put in 4x worldwake/joraga-warcaller.jpgJoraga Warcaller and when you zendikar/quest-for-the-gemblades.jpgQuest for the Gemblades put them all on him. he can then beef all of your elves.
28 damage scenario:
zendikar/adventuring-gear.jpgAdventuring Gear in first, zendikar/lotus-cobra.jpgLotus Cobra in second turn. In third fetchland (2 gratis mana from cobra), zendikar/harrow.jpgHarrow gives 2 additional mana from cobra and it's enough to play zendikar/baloth-woodcrasher.jpgBaloth Woodcrasher. In fourth turn it's possible to get landfall trigger 3-4 times (fetch, zendikar/harrow.jpgHarrow, zendikar/khalni-heart-expedition.jpgKhalni Heart Expedition), and each of them gives +6/+6 to crasher which is equipped with gear already.
Since you're so heavy on burn, why not 2010-core-set/lightning-bolt.jpgLightning Bolt zendikar/burst-lightning.jpgBurst Lightning and worldwake/comet-storm.jpgComet Storm?
it just speeds up the deck a little faster, in the late game when you need to draw something good, you dont wanna draw a land. the marsh flats weeds out a few lands, every bit helps =)
maybe apocalypse/dragon-arch.jpgDragon Arch if you struggle mana fixing
im thinking 2010-core-set/lurking-predators.jpgLurking Predators zendikar/summoning-trap.jpgSummoning Trap things like that which might let you get the bringers out earlier
Since your only running a single creature type; you could run 2010-core-set/coat-of-arms.jpgCoat of Arms, ninth-edition/storage-matrix.jpgStorage Matrix, urza-s-destiny/urza-s-incubator.jpgUrza's Incubator or morningtide/door-of-destinies.jpgDoor of Destinies.
Ha ha ha. This was suppose to be a joke deck. I added the Knights of the Reliquary, though. It helped me break the $500 barrier.
Two very slow decks that are in for the long haul...
Yeah, it's on the sideboard as just an idea :-)
Not actually playable at all. The whole deck isn't that playable :-).
I was wondering that myself. It did not escape me that the two decks were very similar. I think the tweaks ended up counting for a lot; LLL's deck killed a lot of threats before they started. Could have just been luck in the playtesting though.
i can def try him out since if everything goes as expected i will have life gain and it's aggro so i should take theirs faster; it's just something i'll have to toy with
Might want to think of running creatures with unearth over worldwake/dragonmaster-outcast.jpgDragonmaster Outcast because when you board sweep with worldwake/chain-reaction.jpgChain Reaction kiss him goodbye.
yeahhhhhh... i get email on my phone which was right next to me and I have nothing better to do than check out your deck!
That's how I felt about Lacerator at first, but then it really helps out.. it's a 1st turn 2/2
wow, you are fast lol i literally just uploaded it, yes i have thought about shards-of-alara/blightning.jpgBlightning and do intend to atleast sideboard it, but i am just flat out not a fan of zendikar/vampire-lacerator.jpgVampire Lacerator.
This is nice... have you thought about zendikar/vampire-lacerator.jpgVampire Lacerator and shards-of-alara/blightning.jpgBlightning for this puppy?
This is similar to a deck I was thinking about a while ago: Kill it With Fire
whats the point of having zendikar/marsh-flats.jpgMarsh Flats in there if you don't have any swamps? wouldn't it be faster to just have 4 more plains?
I realize this, but I feel like on turn 4 i'm usually kicking an everflowing chalice for 2 to give me more versatility or hardcasting an architects
It looks like your trying to turn my deck into a copy of yours. I do agree on the 2010-core-set/rootbound-crag.jpgRootbound Crag I'm not wanting to go naya because all it will do is slow me down with having to run landfetch and shards-of-alara/jungle-shrine.jpgJungle Shrine which comes in tapped. I do like the idea of splashing light white which i can use shards-of-alara/druid-of-the-anima.jpgDruid of the Anima for; as far as the matchup of worldwake/leatherback-baloth.jpgLeatherback Baloth vs shards-of-alara/woolly-thoctar.jpgWoolly Thoctar leatherback is just as good if not better in my opinion because he's only one color to cast.
Just remember in the end which deck won heads up :P
Wow, I did much better than I thought I was going to. Totally stoked!
On that note, I'm already raring to go for this contest.
My first entry is the "Worthy Rival Duel Deck", a Red vs Green almost mirror match. That's the link between these decks; nearly all of the cards inside are alternate timeshifted versions of one another!
Red : Burning Down the Woods
Green : Growing from the Ashes.
It's a great card. I got one in here. It's very popular in T2, though this deck obviously doesn't fit that category of deck.
I thought that people would realize they could refresh the page to accomplish this. But I could make a button for this.
Agreed.
One can use the browser's zoom feature to globally increase the size of cards.
Not unless Wizards wants to pay me!
I had'em, but then i realized that i always wanted mass removal whenever i drew them, so all of my removal is mass. I do realize the usefulness of spot removal, but in every game of edh i've played, it seems worth it to go completely in favor of mass removal. thoughts?
What really happened to the Nephilim: Dawn vs. Canaanitish
Another edit- took out bestial menace and now running a full compliment of Garruk's and LBT's! Should be FUNZ
Also as updates I took out the bolts so BBE and Violent outburst always hit 'Seas' and put in a Garruk. Dudes=Damage off Chain reaction and he's like a fancy ramp into Lavaball trap n' stuff.
Same thing for Bestial menace. Good synergy with chain reaction and with Garruk's overrun.