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Seems like a pretty solid addition, I think I'll try and see how to fit it in. The only thing going against it are the nighthawks, but if I don't draw those I'm usually low on life by the time Obliterators start swinging. Playing a few of these while low on life after an obliterator or two swings would be brutal.
I'm saying have a particular goal in mind (lifegain, tokens/populate, or enters-the-battlefield triggers), although there can be some overlap - that is, even if you pick one, some other cards are still relevant. Examples for the first two bullets:
First bullet (lifegain): Trostani, Selesnya's Voice is synergistic as it still gives you lifegain to use with effects like Ajani's Pridemate and Sunbond . You can also use some efficient token producers, such as Doomed Traveler to get enters-the-battefield triggers for more lifegain, which then lets you use the populate effect. These efficient token producers also help with Essence Warden and Soul Warden , which you'd want to run more of if you were going life-gain. The 5/5 Wurm producers also combo well with Trostani. Alive is still a useful card. However this is somewhat going down the third bullet point option too; you could take the first route and cut all or almost all of the token cards out completely.
Second bullet (tokens/populate): Again here Trostani, Selesnya's Voice is synergistic, I shouldn't need to explain any further for that one. Alive can also still be useful, although it may not be as desirable as one token for 3G is not as cost effective as other token producers. However if you want to focus on tokens, especially more powerful tokens with populate, lifegain cards aren't going to be as effective so you'd want to cut those.
Thanks for the +1s guys!
@Fulcrum, Gatecreeper Vine can search for your lands no? That's particularly why it's there. Obvs there will ALWAYS be wayyyyy better alternatives that cost more, but that defeats the purpose and challenge of making all of my decks budget friendly :D A set of Sylvan Caryatid is more than this whole deck itself lol xP
I'm thinking about making these changes: Raise the alarm for another mortal's ardor, boonweaver giant for an elspeth sun's champion.Sideboard switching two meditation puzzles for two more congregates, oppressive rays for another mortal's ardor and the two tireless missionaries for a spectra ward and sunbond.
All in however, I came 6/24 at tonights FNM. 2-0 (white/blue aggro), 2-1(Red goblins), 1-2(slivers).
Welding Jar does almost nothing, since you can't regenerate sacrificed permanents.
Since you're using proxies and money is therefore no object, I would run 4x Gaea's Cradle and Glimpse of Nature , as well as a few Fastbond , Beastmaster Ascension , Concordant Crossroads , Channel , and a Banefire . Your ideal plan with these would be to draw your deck with Glimpse, and either swing for massive with Ascension and Crossroads, or do the old + (with Banefire), playing all your lands with Fastbond, Legend rule-ing out your Cradles to get a billion green mana and then, y'know, winning. To fit these in, I'd take out Thunder-Thrash Elder , Welding Jar , Tormod's Crypt , Lightning Bolt , Swords to Plowshares , and maybe Dryad Arbor .
Alternately, you could try out Cheerios, a legit Legacy deck that does about what I suggested, but more better. There's a good thread on it here, and, not to self-promote or anything, I've got a pretty fun build you can find here: Cheerios!
Privileged Position + Sterling Grove creates a lock giving all of your permanents hexproof. Aluren + Rhys the Redeemed + Phyrexian Altar allows you to sack rhys, then play him again from the command zone at instant speed, because Aluren doesn't specify hand, It works with any three cost or less commander. Cathars' Crusade + Kitchen Finks + Phyrexian Altar gives infinite life + infinite mana by sacking Kitchen Finks which then returns to the battlefield and recieves a +1/+1 counter from Cathars' Crusade negating the -1/-1 counter given by persist.
MariioPT I have a sweet spot for Stave Off because it can work as a counterspell in an opponent's creature that is being buffed or enchanted. Nonethless, Gods Willing is going over Faith's Shield, thanks!
@Prehcise Thanks for the suggestions. I can see placing Oona in the sideboard. I'm not sure about Hedron Crab or Snapcaster Mage though. I can see the crab falling victim to early removal and I'm not sure about how to recycle Snapcaster.
I would cut Gatecreeper Vine as it doesn't actually do anything since you're not playing gates. If you can get them, Sylvan Caryatid is a much better option. If not, Wall of Blossoms is cheap. Blossoms also makes a good replacement over Carven Caryatid .
Predator Ooze seems a little slow to be a 4 of, especially with all the Path to Exile out there . Have you thought about Leatherback Baloth ? it presents a faster clock and still dodges all the burn removal in modern. Also Aspect of Hydra lets you get some explosive damage with the high devotion count of your creatures. I'd recommend dropping Arbor Elf in favor of them.
lower your prices a bit. try Doomed Traveler this guy is awesome. Also, if its tokens created by creatures, try Spirit Bonds . otherwise it is nice, but you should dwindle to some four of's. Make sure it is the quick and easy guys. That way when you cast your life gain or Collective Blessing it will really pack a punch.
Goldfished this once through, and holy crap. I drew through the deck like three times by turn 15, twincasted, then forked, then reverberated an epic experiment, pulled sphinxbone up to 45 counters, then cast ignite memories for like thirty. Awesome deck +1
Pretty nice deck! I run a Rakdos Aggro, but this could be a fun little deck to bring to FNM or to have a friend use when they come over. I like the principle. Although, there are many cards such as Blinding Flare and Lightning Strike that can easily help aggressive decks get through your flyers. I would suggest adding some counter spells, like Negate . Hope my advice helps!
Awesome, thank you very much for the feedback.
I understand the bringer suggestion and I've been looking for better draws that isn't on a stick and easy to remove. But what would I remove should I add some of is in? :)
Which of the three bullet points are you going for (if decided to aim for one of those)? It's important to try and have a specific goal in mind when deckbuilding. Your changes make me think you're going mostly for the second one, although in that case you'd want to ditch most of the lifegain cards so Sunbond wouldn't be of any use any more.
Also, I'd recommend - if you want to build a more consistent deck - that you make edits on tappedout and then, once you've got a decklist you're fairly happy with, order the cards you don't have online. Building decks like that means you're not restricted to your current cardpool, so you're a lot less restricted. It also means you can have playsets (4x of the same card, if you're not familiar with the term) of the most important cards, so your deck will play a lot more consistently. As well as buying cards online you can - of course - trade for things you don't have yet, before finalizing your decklist and then making an order.
Anyway, once you can figure out which direction you want to take this deck in, I can give card suggestions as well as suggestions for what to remove. Since it seems to be for more casual play I'll try to keep my suggestions to a fairly low budget. I built the only decent deck I have that way back when I was newer to the game - I had to order a fair amount of cards to complete my deck but it only set me back about 10. :)
Kills a vast majority of creatures in the format or makes trading profitabble and isnt dead against mono black unlike doom blade where bile blight can just brickwall a growing rat army The life and information you gain from thoughtsezie makes the 2 life worth it. Most people when evaluating thoughtseize use burn as the precendent to see if it can work or not. burn runs 12 4 damage spells and cards like young pyromancer and eidolon so thoughtseizing can actually save anywhere from 2-5 life not to mention it allows you to have knowledge on how to kill them more efficiently due to hand knowledge.
In my opinion and this may be wrong I would cut 1 dissolve 1 aetherspouts and 2 fonts for 4 thoughtseize.
play test review: running b/w life gain and hit a wall with storm breath. Also exiled Ajani's Pridemate (Big hit.) and Resolute Archangel (and i wasn't even trying to get the life reset at that moment.) very well put together deck over all.
@ corythackston Since decks like this have the tendency to go into the very late game, Mana Leak can become a dead card late in the game when your enemy has a lot of mana but not much to spend it on. Negate does a more reliable job in the longrun.
Not a big fan of only have 1 of a card in the deck, very slim chance of drawing it. Personally, I would rather have 4 Divination and remove Jace's Ingenuity completely. Other than that, this is a nice deck that might be worth a try. Unknown Shores and Yavimaya Coast might be something to think about as well. :)
I have posted an updated version of my deck. First let me just say thank you so much for commenting! I was wondering what cards i should take out to add things like Arbor Elf or Elvish Mystic . I have 2x Sunbond but i already have 62 cards and dont know what to take out. if you could help me out that would be great! Also the reason i added more Seller of Songbirds because i dont have a lot of flying. Again thanks!