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I recommend dropping 3 Forest for 2 Selesnya Guildgate and another Plains . I know the guildgates are slower but I calculated you needing more white sources in your deck because of all the double white costs. You also need to maintain your number of green sources and I believe your land count is correct. The only solution I could come up with was to add the guildgates. I suppose the other option is to cut a non-land card and add a Plains , and swap a Forest for another Plains . but then you may find yourself flooding more often. Either way, think about it, playtesting will show which is better.
So I've been playing this deck on and off for the last 2 weeks. Aside from dropping 1 Aetherling and adding 1 Polukranos, I haven't changed the deck all the much. Overall, I've had a lot of fun with the deck and have done fairly well. In each tourney I've played I was able to fire off the infinite combo a couple of times. It's certainly not reliable enough for me to believe that I'll top 4 every time, but when it happens it's crazy fun.
The first game I played was against a pseudo mirror (Simic). His strategy was to ramp up with Mystics, and Caryatids while bouncing/countering my creatures. Eventually he would try to land a couple of huge creatures and swing in for the win. He got his board to the point where he had ultimated Kiora and had 2 Krakens on the board. I had played my own Kiora and chumped one of his krakens. He then dropped a Sylvan Primordial and destroyed my Kiora. He also had 3 Elvish Mystic in play.
I had three Kiora's Follower and a Prophet of Kruphix in play against his board and was down to 7 life. I topped decked an Illusionist's Bracers , played and equipped it on one of the Followers. As soon as that happened I had the combo. I had an Oracle's Insight and Polukranos, World Eater in my hand. I played the Polukranos and showed how I could make it infinitely monstrous. The Oracle's Insight went on the Prophet and I showed him how I could scry+draw through my entire deck. I 'tutored' for a Dismiss into Dream and killed his board.
I like the Defender ability here in the deck, haven't seen it used much. I also really like the Colossus of Akros card and am working him into a deck now.
Have you considered Fog Bank ? It could replace the Hover Barrier , its one mana cheaper and still wouldn't die. It would be more vulnerable to burn spells however. Vertigo Spawn might also be useful in keeping other opponents tapped abilities from being used. Last suggestion would be Wall of Denial , now I know this is a blue green deck, but this card is perfect for this if you could find a way to get this card out. Same converted mana cost as Hover Barrier , but it also has shroud, protecting it from spells. Some of these could possibly go on side/maybe boards.
Hope that helps, but its a great looking deck!
Currently i'm having trouble with direct damage and simple don't have some ways to deal with artifacts/enchantments except by Eye of Doom .Please help me with tips and more good control cards :) .
That's true I have been struggling with whether or not it is worth it to go the route of non auras specifically Oblivion Ring . I decided to sideboard it that way I can switch them in when I know that my opponents aren't playing creature heavy decks.
I think we'd also benefit from a new subscription option.
If, on the preview page, we were given a drop-down menu or single-selection list where we could choose our subscription option for that post/thread, we'd have a lot more flexibility. I'm autosubscribed to everything, which means to unsubscribe from individual threads, I have to finish my post, scroll back down, and click unsubscribe.
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The subscribe to original author would be incredibly useful. I often find on walls and binders that my notification feed gets clogged with posts from other users, which I don't want. Generally, I only care about the replies from that specific user on his or her own binder or wall.
The decks are also great for building a "new" deck with. Each deck has two or three directions in them. Like the Esper one has a lifegain theme, and an artifact-theme. If you like artifacts, you buy more cards to compliment that aspect of the deck, and so forth.
I like the use of the Bracers on Zameck's second ability (when the conditions are right) and on Vorel. Also consider a Renegade Krasis if you want things to get bigger faster.
...and Master Biomancer if you want to step up the budget a little.
I wanted a Tooth and Nail but couldn't get ahold of one while I was making the deck. Craterhoof Behemoth would be good, I need more finishers, and trample would be super helpful. Any cuts to recommend for the other Garruks + that?
This is a typical Top8 Deck that EVERY MonoBlack Player has!
What about a Gary Combo? Use Devour Flesh on your own Gary and get 4 Life!Or Altar's Reap and draw two cards!Then get Gary back to your Hand with something like March of the Returned , Midnight Recovery , Whip of Erebos (+ for your Devotion), Rescue from the Underworld cost 5 Mana to get a Creature out of Graveyard but when you sacrifice a Gary to get a Gary back then you have two Garys that come back to the Battlefield both with 4 Devotion alone + your other Cards :)
I really enjoy this deck! I am myself trying to create a Kraken deck mixed with some Hydras. We will see if it works. But I like the new kraken creatures in the Theros block.
Have you considered Shipbreaker Kraken ? Its ability to keep enemy creatures tapped can be useful. I know that its only once it becomes monstrous, but it could be useful in-case an opponent has an Octopus, Serpent, or Kraken themselves. Also Simic Charm might be a useful card. I know it only returns creatures to an owners hand, but its a possible card that also gives you other options. Just an idea.
Otherwise I really like it!
I'm interested in your Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker ...depending on the version, I suppose.
I have a Tectonic Edge , Satyr Firedancer , Thespian's Stage , Student of Warfare , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben , Black Sun's Zenith , 4 Springleaf Drum , 2 Magma Jet , and a Hero of Leina Tower That I could put towards it.
You don't have to try to figure out what's "considered" targeting, because the only things that target are effects that specifically use the word "target" somewhere in the rules text (or in the full rules text of a keyword ability, like Equip or Enchant [thing]). The Cipher ability doesn't target anything.
Note* Remove these cards Golgari Guildmage , Selesnya Guildmage , Woolly Spider , Wurmskin Forger , Giant Spider , Might of Oaks , Beastmaster's Magemark , Hidden Spider , Moldervine Cloak , Retaliation , Treetop Bracers , Forgotten Ancient , Elvish Warrior , Everglove Courier , Glistener Elf , Norwood Ranger , Symbiotic Elf , Tel-Jilad Chosen , Trophy Hunter , and Wurmweaver Coil after obtaining Nature's Lore , Gilt-Leaf Archdruid , Heritage Druid , Quest for Renewal , Thornweald Archer , Elvish Harbinger , Seeker of Skybreak , Wolf-Skull Shaman , Bower Passage , Ezuri's Archers , Lys Alana Bowmaster , Lys Alana Huntmaster , Gravity Well , Thousand-Year Elixir , Timberwatch Elf , Helix Pinnacle , Elvish Archdruid , Boundless Realms , Elvish Lyrist , Elvish Promenade .
I ran a Grixis deck, Ral and Friends, and while playing it I noticed that to get double blue mana by turn three wasn't always a guarantee. So my Dissolve set in my hand. I am now running a BUG deck, Bugging Bombs, (It's still in progress), and instead of running Dissolve , I am running Psychic Strike , which counters and throws two cards in their graveyard. But I am also running Deathrite Shaman .... Maybe something to look into if you are having a hard time to cast a Dissolve early game. Maybe do the ole switheroo a couple of times and see which is better. +1 from me, love the deck.
The ability on Volrath's Shapeshifter isn't a characteristic-defining ability (it fails the "does not set the values of such characteristics only if certain conditions are met" requirement of CDAs), so that means it only functions while the Shapeshifter is on the battlefield. The ability on Sutured Ghoul is a replacement effect that has to be applied as it enters the battlefield, meaning before it actually gets there.
All together this means Volrath's Shapeshifter isn't yet a Sutured Ghoul at the time you would exile cards for a real Ghoul. In your example, when the Shapeshifter enters the battlefield it turns into a 0/0 Sutured Ghoul and dies.
Yeah buy one of the Premade commander decks, I bought the Naya one and use Mayael the Anima , with her you put out a lot of huge and very powerful creatures really fast, sometimes T4.
I feel like 28 nonland noncreature cards would demand 22-23 mana, and you might want to fix the land base to balance it out (3 more blue, 3 less white for starters), and since you don't have anything to play on T1, probably toss in a couple Azorius Guildgate for some versatility on T2.
I like fun budget decks, +1.
Hey, thanks for the all the great feedback Abysinian!!! It seems you share my love of the Heroic mechanic!
About the Flames of the Firebrand vs. Lightning Strike - I get that Lightning Strike would probably be better removal, but the Flames aren't just for that. They can remove (up to three weenies) and in case I only need the 1 or 2 damage, I don't have to waste the rest as I can do direct damage or buff up a Heroic. I still haven't gotten the cards so I haven't tested them but I feel they're gonna kill it!
Fall of the Hammer - This is another reason I don't feel bad about not running more burn, because this can do it while triggering a heroic. In case there's nothing to remove I can just pump two heroics if the attack from one isn't enough to kill the other (or if I have Favored Hoplite).
About Young Pyromancer , on this I have to say I agree. This was meant as a blitz deck and playtesting this against my mates I felt like it and Akroan Crusader were meant for a Swarm deck, which I may try to build soon. But I am definetely going to switch them out for something else, probably a combination of Anax and Cymede , Phalanx Leader and Fencing Ace . Which do you think would work better?
It turns out I'm enjoying Heroic so much (and it's such a cheap deck) that I'm gonna make 3 decks and see which one fares better: a Boros, an Azorius and a Selesnya. This works pretty well for me as the tree main football teams in Portugal are red, blue and green (Benfica, Porto and Sporting respectively). I'll be posting them here as I finish them and I wish I could get your feedback and your favourite!
Ok so Ghostly Prison I like this one but Auratog I never wanted to destroy anything as atogs tend to do that. Hero of Iroas is cool i'll see about that one. Kor Spiritdancer falls away from kitty theme and for the cost the chances of getting it are very slim. I like Nomad Mythmaker because if brimaz dies, next time I put him back into play he will have his auras again. Umbra Mystic is pretty cool but then again I can just put my commander back into play
@yeaGO! ~ so my idea is fairly simple in concept but I wasnt sure if there would be a way to execute it smoothly for all you admins.
In the subscriptions page I wondered if there would be a way to have a multi delete function. Like instead of individual "X" in red, if they had like a check box and then towards the bottom of the page there was a button that said "delete all selected" or something.
This is mainly coming from when I was just auto subscribing on everything I commented on so it's my own fault for letting it go so long without deleting threads.
P.S. ~ what do others think about this? Worth it? More hassle than it's worth?
@GeneticArtificer I'm not sure what you mean about the madness mechanic. I don't think it would be a good fit for the deck. Unless you're saying something else about it?
@fluffybunnypants Haha I'm not sure what you mean, either. Please elaborate.
how about Phytoburst? I was testing it out and it's pretty much a keeper. Maybe drop the Battlewise valor's?
One of the greatest moments in my magic history:turn 3: (plains, forest, gruul guildgate) Setessan OathswornTurn 4 (2 plains, forest gruul guildgate) Boros charm to turn setessan oathsworn into a 3/3 doublestrike. [opponent is thinking "okay, that's his spell. six damage, i can take that.] BOOM! PHYTOBURST STOOPID! 10/10 doublestrike FTW!
A player can't perform two different actions "simultaneously", but it's perfectly fine to take two actions in a row. The game won't move on to the next step or phase until both players pass over an empty stack, so if you want to pump Fabled Hero before combat damage is dealt then you can cast one Titan's Strength and then either cast the second in response or after the first resolves.