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xtechnetia on Brilliant Ultimatum in 4 player ...

8 minutes ago

The opponent will be chosen by the caster as the spell resolves.

To illustrate, see the Gatherer rulings on Tasigur, the Golden Fang , whose last ability also mentions "an opponent".

"Tasigur's last ability doesn't target any card or player. You choose an opponent as the ability resolves and..."

athurdent on Brilliant Ultimatum in 4 player ...

2 hours ago

Is it the casters choice or is it random or even opponents choice?

Raging_Squiggle on Persist AND Undying on one ...

5 hours ago

Note that bringing Young Wolf back with persist will have it immediately die to state based actions for having 0 toughness, and will come back with undying right after. There’s no time of Young Wolf being on the battlefield as a 0/0 where you could sac it to your altar or interact with it

Randomsome1 on Persist AND Undying on one ...

7 hours ago

thank you for the very thorough explanation

Caerwyn on Can I use Volrath the ...

7 hours ago

kevin - No worries, happens all the time!

Caerwyn on How does the stack play ...

7 hours ago

No problem, happy to help!

You are correct regarding what happens when the rolls are reversed. When the Ageless Entity is the attacking creature, its controller is the active player and you are the non-active player. As such, Ageless Entity 's ability goes on the stack first, Spitemare on the stack second. Spitemare resolves first--at the time of Spitemare 's resolution, the Ageless Entity is a 4/4 with 3 damage marked on it. Spitemare 's ability resolves, dealing another 4 damage, so you have dealt fatal damage to the Ageless Entity , and it dies as a state-based action. Ageless Entity 's ability then resolves, but, since the Ageless Entity has already died, nothing happens.

kevin on Can I use Volrath the ...

7 hours ago

Ok cool thanks. First time posting here

00NinjaPirate on How does the stack play ...

7 hours ago

Thank you so much for your in-depth answer Caerwyn ! Would the opposite be true if the attacking and defending roles were reversed?

Caerwyn on How does the stack play ...

9 hours ago

Lifelink is not a triggered ability and does not use the stack--they will gain life simultaneously with the damage being dealt. I still want to walk through the stack, since there are two triggered abilities at play, Spitemare and Ageless Entity .

  1. You attack with Spitemare and they block with Ageless Entity .

  2. Combat Damage is assigned, your opponent gains 4 health due to lifelink; Spitemare takes 4 damage.

  3. Spitemare triggers, even though it has been killed. Ageless Entity triggers because your opponent gained life.

  4. You are the active player, so your Spitemare ability goes on the stack first and you choose the target for it.

  5. They are the non-active player, so their Ageless Entity trigger goes on the stack second.

  6. The stack resolves in last-in, first-out order, so Ageless Entity resolves first, and 4 +1/+1 counters are put on it, making it an 8/8.

  7. Spitemare resolves, and you can deal 4 damage to target creature or player. If you targeted the Ageless Entity , it now is an 8/8 with 7 damage marked on it, so it survives.

00NinjaPirate on How does the stack play ...

9 hours ago

I have Spitemare on the field and attack my opponent who has Ageless Entity + Lifelink

After the damage step, am i able to destroy their Ageless Entity with Spitemare 's ability or does the lifelink happen first?

Tyrant-Thanatos on Can Yawgmoth proliferate with no ...

13 hours ago

No.

118.3. A player can’t pay a cost without having the necessary resources to pay it fully. For example, a player with only 1 life can’t pay a cost of 2 life, and a permanent that’s already tapped can’t be tapped to pay a cost.

In order to pay the cost of Yawgmoth, Thran Physician 's ability, you must actually discard a card. If you have no cards to discard, you cannot pay that cost.

Jindo on Can Yawgmoth proliferate with no ...

13 hours ago

If I have Yawgmoth, Thran Physician on the field and no cards in hand could I proliferate without any cards to discard as part of the cost?

Caerwyn on Can I use Volrath the ...

13 hours ago

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Caerwyn on Rayami with Ormendahl?

13 hours ago

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kevin on Can I use Volrath the ...

14 hours ago

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh shit

Mokan on When does proliferate check for ...

22 hours ago

I'm sorry; I've just been busy for a while and it slipped out of my mind. Thank you for the answer and your patience!

Stone_Hearts on Can I use Volrath the ...

1 day ago

That is an incredible way to save Volrath though from a boardwipe though.

Gidgetimer on Persist AND Undying on one ...

1 day ago

Cauldron Haze only affects the permanents that it targets, once the cards change zones and return to the battlefield the new permanents don't have persist even though they are represented by the same card.

To answer your question lets assume we are using Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Woodfall Primus so that the permanent has both abilities each time it is recurred.the steps of what happens are as follows.

  1. Woodfall Primus dies, both undying and persist trigger.

  2. You control both abilities and so get to put them on the stack in whatever order you wish. For this example we will be putting persist on the stack first and then undying.

  3. After a round of priority the topmost object of the stack resolves. Assuming no responses this is undying.

  4. Woodfall Primus is put on the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter.

  5. After another round of priority persist resolves but has nothing to move.

  6. The next time Primus dies he has a +1/+1 counter and only persist triggers.

  7. The abilities keep alternating because Primus will have one of the two types of counters but not both. (Excluding some corner cases).

Kogarashi on Persist AND Undying on one ...

1 day ago

Oh, and sacrificing the Young Wolf again between the two triggers won't do anything useful, again due to the wolf being a new object with no memory of its previous existence.

Kogarashi on Persist AND Undying on one ...

1 day ago

Persist and Undying are both triggered abilities. As you control the creature in question, you would choose what order they go on the stack, and the first to resolve will put the creature back on the battlefield with a counter of the correct type. The other ability will fizzle due to the creature no longer being in the graveyard. That's it.

However there is still value to combining Persist and Undying, just not in the way you're working it here.

The way it works out is this: let's say your Young Wolf already died once and came back with a +1/+1 counter from Undying. If it died again, Undying wouldn't be able to bring it back due to it having a +1/+1 counter on it. But if you gave it Persist, then it could come back with Persist, receiving a -1/-1 counter. At that point, Undying would be able to bring it back again, even though Persist couldn't. This is why people like to combine Persist creatures with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed .

It's important to note that the Young Wolf that returns will be a new object with no memory of its previous existence, including having Persist from Cauldron Haze . You'll have to find a way to give it Persist again to continue playing with this interaction.

Randomsome1 on Persist AND Undying on one ...

1 day ago

I'm working on some spicy aristocrat-esque combos. What happens if you use Cauldron Haze on a creature with undying, like Young Wolf , with a free sac outlet, lets say Phyrexian Altar ?

How do the effects go off? Do they both proc and the counters cancel out, or would 1 fizzle out because the creature isn't in grave anymore? Could you manipulate the stack to alternate which one fully resolves?

Yesterday on How does Ezuri work with ...

1 day ago

To expand on that a little, many creatures specify to do something 'as they enter the battlefield' or that they 'enter the battlefield with some counters'. These are replacement effects for how they enter the battlefield, so they never enter the battlefield as 0/0 creatures to get the opportunity to trigger Ezuri.

The replacement effects are necessary with the current rules so that the creatures can survive. If a creature like Apocalypse Hydra had the text "When ~ enters the battlefield, put X +1/+1 counters on it", it would enter the battlefield and die due to state-based effects before its ETB ability would get a chance to resolve.

Caerwyn on How does Ezuri work with ...

1 day ago

In the future, please use the Rules Q&A section of this site when you have questions about rules, cards, or card interactions. It has some added functionalities, such as the ability to hit the "Mark as Answer" button to indicate your question has been resolved. I have taken the liberty of moving the thread for you.


To answer your question, Clockwork Dragon does not have a triggered ability--it has a replacement effect which modifies how Clockwork Dragon enters the battlefield. As such, when it enters the battlefield, it will be a 6/6 and thus not trigger Ezuri.

SirQuixano on How does Ezuri work with ...

1 day ago

Ezuri, Claw of Progress allows one to gain an experience counter every time a creature with 2 or less power enters the battlefield on your side. So if Clockwork Dragon comes into play, does this trigger Ezuri's first ability as the +1/+1s are an enter the battlefield effect, so which gets triggered first or do they trigger simultaneously? Thanks, as I thought this may be a good idea for a commander deck.

Caerwyn on What happens to colossus hammer?

1 day ago

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hankhill on Yarok and Graft

1 day ago

danm, was really hoping that would be busted

dragonstryke58 on Yarok and Graft

1 day ago

Unfortunately, your Plaxcaster Frogling will only be a 3/3.

Graft represents both a static ability and a triggered ability. Placing the counters on a creature with graft (the first part of graft) is a static ability. Therefore cards like Yarok, the Desecrated and Panharmonicon will not cause it to enter with more counters.

702.57a Graft represents both a static ability and a triggered ability. “Graft N” means “This permanent enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters on it” and “Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, if this permanent has a +1/+1 counter on it, you may move a +1/+1 counter from this permanent onto that creature.”

hankhill on Yarok and Graft

2 days ago

If I have Yarok, the Desecrated and/or Panharmonicon on the field and play a creature with Graft, i.e. Plaxcaster Frogling will the graft ability trigger twice?

I know I'll be able to move 2 counters off frogling when I play a different creature but I'm wondering if I can get away with paying 3 to get a 6/6.

Rhadamanthus on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

The reason those other interactions work is also because of the layer system. Scion's copy effect applies in layer 1, Skithiryx's ability adding effect applies in layer 6, and Moltensteel Dragon's P/T changing effect applies in layer 7.

DragonGodPrince on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

Oh, so It becomes a 1/1 human with hexproof and unblockable with the second dragon's name, cmc, and types.

DragonGodPrince on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

Thats odd, I been told that stacking abilities like for example Moltensteel Dragon before transforming into Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon works. Which led to a similar thing where if I make Scion of the Ur-Dragon turn into Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon and activate his haste ability then transform into a different dragon. The last dragon Scion of the Ur-Dragon turns into will have haste because of Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon 's ability prior.

Rhadamanthus on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

It will be a 1/1 human with hexproof and no other abilities that can't be blocked this turn. It will have the name, mana cost (and therefore color), and card types/supertypes (i.e. legendary, creature, artifact, etc.) of the second dragon, but that's it.

Figuring out a permanent's characteristics is based on the Layer system, and the layers get applied in a specific order. Relevant to this example: copy effects are in layer 1, type changing effects are in layer 4, ability adding/removing effects are in layer 6, and P/T changing effects are in layer 7. The type changing, ability removing, and P/T setting effects from the resolution of Chromium, the Mutable 's ability will always be applied on top of the copy effect generated by the resolution of Scion of the Ur-Dragon 's ability.

Kogarashi on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

Also this ruling on Dimir Doppelganger , which seems to cover the same general idea:

  • This creature becomes an exact copy of a copied card, except that it also has Dimir Doppelganger’s activated ability. If it becomes a copy of a different creature card, the new copy will overwrite the old copy. (2005-10-01)

The copy ability overwrites previous traits unless otherwise specified, which would include Human Chromium's hexproof and unblockable.

Kogarashi on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

The Scion's copy ability overwrites its own abilities, though, as most copy abilities do. So if you activate the Scion to copy first a Shivan Dragon and then Chromium, the Mutable , then activate Chromium's ability once that copy effect resolves but before the other, the effect copying Shivan Dragon should still replace the Scion's traits with whatever's on Shivan Dragon , not just add to them. Shivan Dragon doesn't have hexproof or unblockable, so the Scion would not retain those from the Chromium ability.

Basing this off the ruling on Scion of the Ur-Dragon where it loses its copy ability when it copies:

  • When Scion of the Ur-Dragon becomes a copy of another Dragon, it loses its copy ability for the rest of the turn. (2006-09-25)

It's not copying the other dragons' traits in addition to whatever it has.

DragonGodPrince on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

Thank you, just asking to make sure. Also another possible outcome was that if scion transforms into the second dragon but only retains the hexproof but not the unblockable ability of chromium.

Gidgetimer on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

You have an unblockable and hexproof copy of whatever dragon you searched out for the scion ability that resolved second.

DragonGodPrince on Does Scion Retain Hexproof and ...

2 days ago

If I activate Scion of the Ur-Dragon 's ability twice and make him Chromium, the Mutable last and activate Chromium's ability to make him unblockable, hexproof and a 1/1 human. Does he stay a human with no abilities except unblockable and hexproof and ignore the second dragon transformation? Or does Scion of the Ur-Dragon retain unblockable and hexproof but his abilities and base power and toughness change into the second dragon I transform him into?

metalmustaine on will 2 intruder alarm on ...

2 days ago

Really..? Damn.. my opponent got thraben... so i'm really fucked up that time then...

xtechnetia on Does Primal Amulet flipped work ...

2 days ago

No. When you end up casting the spell after all the suspend counters come off, you cast it without paying its mana cost. There is therefore no way to use the mana from Primal Wellspring to cast the suspended card and hence use the copy effect.

It could work, though, if something like Thalia, Guardian of Thraben was in play and your suspended card costs to cast instead of .

TaegukTheWise on Does Primal Amulet flipped work ...

2 days ago

Does Primal Wellspring work with the suspend mechanic? Suspending doesn't count as casting last I checked, but when it goes onto the stack after the last suspend counter does something like Ancestral Vision get copied with the ability to choose new targets?

Tyrant-Thanatos on Does Gyrus' ability triggers Balefire ...

3 days ago

Correct. Anytime a creature is "put onto the battlefield attacking", it was never declared as an attacker, and thus never "attacked", even though it is "attacking".

It is still considered an attacking creature, so cards that specifically interact with attacking creatures, including the card itself, can still function. For instance, a Kor Scythemaster that is put onto the battlefield attacking would have first strike during that combat phase.

MrGuizee666 on Does Gyrus' ability triggers Balefire ...

3 days ago

Thank you. I misread the card. So unfortunately cards like Combat Celebrant won't work either :(

Tyrant-Thanatos on Does Gyrus' ability triggers Balefire ...

3 days ago

Balefire Dragon does not have an on-attack triggered ability, it has a combat damage trigger. This ability will trigger whenever Balefire deals combat damage to a player, regardless of other circumstances. So if Balefire goes unblocked, and actually deals combat damage to the opponent, then yes.

For actual on-attack triggers, such as Flameblast Dragon , no, they would not trigger.

MrGuizee666 on Does Gyrus' ability triggers Balefire ...

3 days ago

If I attack with Gyrus, Waker of Corpses and put a token of Balefire Dragon tapped and attacking, does it still trigger the Dragon's attack ability?

Kogarashi on Manifested Instants

3 days ago

Also it's important to note that if something did exile the manifested card face-down, it's not actually a 2/2 nameless creature anymore, it's a face-down Giant Growth (in this case).

Lycasde on Will a tapped equipped equipment ...

3 days ago

It helped a lot, Thanks!

dragonstryke58 on Manifested Instants

3 days ago

Just providing the official rulings to support the above answer:

304.4. Instants can’t enter the battlefield. If an instant would enter the battlefield, it remains in its previous zone instead.

and

307.4. Sorceries can’t enter the battlefield. If a sorcery would enter the battlefield, it remains in its previous zone instead.

Kogarashi on Manifested Instants

3 days ago

The Giant Growth will go to exile face up and stay there.

The reason is because cards go to exile face up unless the effect states otherwise, regardless of their status on the battlefield. Any morphed card or transformed double-faced card will also go to exile face up. So Ghostway exiles a 2/2 nameless creature, but it's Giant Growth when in exile.

Then the rest of Ghostway 's effect tries to return your card, but instants and sorceries can't exist on the battlefield, so Giant Growth will stay in exile instead. Cards are only put on the battlefiled face-down if an effect specifically says so (manifest, morph, the transform effect of double-faced planeswalkers, etc.) and Ghostway doesn't specifically say so.

The_Epic_Dog on Manifested Instants

3 days ago

If i have a manifested Giant Growth and i flicker it with Ghostway , what happens?

rolfMTG on Will a tapped equipped equipment ...

3 days ago

When you attack with a creature which has an Equipment on it, the Equipment won't tap. This is often done when playing in paper, but technically the Equipment should stay untapped.

The other way around, untapping an Equipment has no effect on the creature it's equipped to.

Hope this helps!